Bankroll £500 genrated £10,000 in 6 hrs.???

[status]

if 34 and 35 showed. My main no is 36 but I also cover 34 and 35. I increase the stake gradually, therefore you need a big BR. Mr. J only plays the missing no ie 36 flat stake.
I bet all three no. small bets on the showed no and big stake on the missing no.
Hope this is clear now.

hi,
what you do if 36 doesn't show up in 15 spins or more and another numbers are qualifying for play ? you give up on 36 or play all qualified numbers till you are on profit ?
thanks

[Kingspin]

we need a tracker for this - anyone i will donate some money towards it.

[status]

some statistics it would help i think.
or a coder could help to test on many spins

[Orochi]

we need a tracker for this - anyone I will donate some money towards it.

I can do the tracker in Excel, but need defined rules how to play.

Atm the info a see from the post is track last 15~18 spins.
If 2 diferente numbers of the same street hit twice, we bet the missing number of the street.
Now, if a new trigger appear we change the number that we are betting?


This is my current project. Can direct visualize streets hitting from last 18 spins. Have full stats information. U can select the range u wanna track.

Any doubts just, let me know.

LINK: nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20619.0

[status]

hello,
thank you for your help.
from my poin of view, if a new trigger appear I bet both I dont cancel any bet.
it would be interesting if you could add a line, "complete street" or something like that.
you have HITS, max repeat, max interval, last appeared.. but this wont help in this system because.. if last 3 numbers are 9, 24, 9.. it says in the street 7-9 has hit twice.. but acctually the numbers 9 was repeated one.. what i am trying to say.. if number 9 and 8 has hit in last 10.. this should show street 7-9 hit twice different numbers.
the complete street should track WHEN the number 7 hit.. after how many spins hit number 7 if the numbers 8 and 9 hitted between 10 spin.
i hope you understand what i am saying.. i want to know in how many spins the my bet number 7 (in our case) didnt hit.
thank you!

[Orochi]

I will start building the tracker for this system in a few days. Atm i have many work to do. Let's wait until weekend

[tonna]

Hello Nemsdoc,

Are you still getting success with the Mr. J system? Which online casinos are you using? i am sure you are only betting on live casinos.

I have tried the system on william hill live casino. I used a 10 step bet after 2 numbers have appeared in the same street. i bet more on the missing number and betting a bit less on the other 2 numbers. In around 200 spins i got 18 opportunities. But from that with the step progression betting only 8 i was a winner while the other 10 cases in the next 10 spins the street did not come out at all. Overall i was at a lost.

I sat down in a live casino and noted the winning nmbers for 2 hours to see if the system works in a live casino (air ball). It wins in some cases but most of the time it loses. As we are doing a 10 step progression (although a mild one) i would still been at a loss with this system.

So, what are you doing right that i am doing wrong?

Thanks a lot for your input my friend.

[ausguy]

airball is manipulated = casino wins & you lose.  Test it against live dealer spins for true random results.

[ausguy]

Further to my previous airball post , check out wheel maker site, cammergh.com & their Slingshot 2 model promo.

They have variable rotor speed & jets of air in the ball track to influence the ball speed. Although they don't mention it they would also have tracking readers all connected to a computer pgm. This would enable the ball to be zoned to minimise payouts & maximise returns for the casino/venue.

Airball are classed as electronic gaming machines, EGMs,  the same as poker/slot machines and have the same player payout requirements. Sure some players win sometimes but they don't have the same randomness as live dealer wheels. All this EGM stuff is documented in most gaming authorities complex regulations.

It's all designed to make a player think they are playing a real random game. Look at all the people that believe the latest Vegas Star RNG roulette is real when in fact the live video HD image of 3 rotated lady dealers spins is in fact just a few spins repeated over & over again. The con is complete when the image changes to an overhead view which allows the required number drop to be displayed from the video memory bank.

A close look at any auto wheel will reveal some type of in track ball speed reading device. Wheel speed control is hidden underneath. I've seen this on 3 different makes of auto wheels here in Sydney OZ. Interblock is one, the other 2 I can't remember the names?

I also think the program factors in reasonable wheel coverage often avoiding numbers that will allow corners, streets & 6 lines to repeat.
As you found Tonna even though you weren't playing you still got more losses than wins.



Why do they need to have airball like it is?  Controlled guaranteed income is the only logical answer I can see?

I gave up RNG & airball/slingshot in 2010 after I twigged to the manipulation. I never won on any of these games. I've always done best on live dealer roulette & that's where I always play.

500 quid makes 10,000 needs some self discipline money management to protect your profits. I always relate things to the average worker to keep oneself grounded. For the average battler 10k would take at least a year of 40 hr weeks to save.

I don't see any 3 numbers making up any street as a long term winner. On a Euro wheel you're  backing a divided 3/37 betting chance = 8.11% chance of some return & 91.89% of a full bet loss.
Numbers can sleep for hundreds of spins including the "missing" number you are betting on.

Nemsdoc had good fortune & up 10k on Jan. 14 then gets wacked 3.3k + 100 on Jan.29.
Mr J reports he's going well but I would be surprised if anyone was getting consistant wins with minimal losses?

After all even covering nearly 1/2 (48.65%) of the table it rarely sees consistant winnings ? If it did every man & his dog would be onto it & casinos would close down the game.
200+ years later and still reaping good profits for the casino/venue.

[tonna]

Hi,

I don't think that all air ball machines are manipulated. I have studied them well and I have talked extensively with the people who repairs them. The brand of machine I am talking of is the 'Amatic' from Germany. I can't speak for others. The reason people think they are manipulated is that sometimes you see that the results are not that random - this is mainly because the air pressure is varied each time so as to cause the most random to fall each time and sometimes the pressure may the same for some spins and that is why the numbers coming out are close together (this does not happen with a live dealer as the force he spins the ball each time is different).

But 'Amatic' has 2 main kinds of air roulette machines - one the number slots are deep and the other shallow. When the ball falls in the wheel with deep slots that's the number that comes out although the wheel is still spinning. Whereas the wheel with shallow number slots gives even better random results - as even if the number has fallen into a slot and the wheel is still running the ball keeps moving along the slots for long distances before it sits on the winning number. This gives a very random result - I have found it to be as random as live roulette. I checked how Mr. J system will run on that - and indeed in 80% of cases the expected street does come out!

Mr. J said that he is betting on the single missing number in the street. I wonder if he is getting good result with this. Many times the expected number may turn out after 80 spins!!

>After all even covering nearly 1/2 (48.65%) of the table it rarely sees consistent winnings ? If it did every man & his dog would be onto it & casinos would close down the game.

Well the other day I saw a guy having a whole live roulette table all for himself and the guy had put some $3,000 on the table covering nearly all the numbers. The number that came out was '13' and he did not have a cent on that number!

On the other hand I saw a guy on the air ball machine and he had $1,000 and he was playing CASUALLY while talking loudly to his friend! Within 45mins he had brought it $65,000!!! He took out $64,500 and continued to play and in some 30mins made it to $30,000!!! He was not using any system, he was not concentrated at all, he just filled in the inside numbers each time.

[qayotee]

That's a good win. I need to look into this system. Always nice to hear about big wins

[marvin]

On the other hand I saw a guy on the air ball machine and he had $1,000 and he was playing CASUALLY while talking loudly to his friend! Within 45mins he had brought it $65,000!!! He took out $64,500 and continued to play and in some 30mins made it to $30,000!!! He was not using any system, he was not concentrated at all, he just filled in the inside numbers each time.

im a witness to this kinf of scenario almost everytime i visit the casino  and it makes me feel like im a loser   

[marvin]

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