Unique Roulette System to Play Roulette

[harryj]

Hi everyone,
    This is my 1st post although I have been browsing the forum for some time. This system is as old as roulette and in 'Le Grande Epoche' was known as 'The Kitchen Martingale'. The normal bet was 1-2-4.( The Kitchen was the namegiven to the low stakes area at Monte Carlo)
    Back in the 70's I played this as a regular system at Sun City(South Africa). I used a bet series 1-2-3 and averaged about 30 units in a 200 spin session. I played all 3 EC pairs. Unfortunately most of my records from this era were destroyed. I didn't record numbers only the EC results. I used a 3 colour pen- BLE in black-RHE in red - zero green. This enabled me to read the record at a glance and helped avoid mistakes.
      I later replaced this system with a very powerful tweak on the Labby and regularly played sessions of over 800 spins. I must point out that the wheel was spun at 80-90 spins per hour.
      I would not play the kitchen martingale online as there are more streaks, but on a live wheel can provide lots of action and at current speeds 3-4 units per hour.
        Best wishes to all         Harry

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Back in the 70's I played this as a regular system at Sun City(South Africa). I used a bet series 1-2-3 and averaged about 30 units in a 200 spin session. I played all 3 EC pairs.

What was your bet selection ?

[Nathan Detroit]

Post deleted. Wrong subject .

Sorry .

ND

[harryj]

Hi Nathan,
      The bet selection is the same as Wikkiwin's. Any EC that loses 3 times is bet for 3 spins, 1-2-3. Bets 1&2 =+1 bet 3 =0, any win = EOS Lose all 3 absorb loss of 6 units look for new target. The math behind the Kitchen Martingale is that streaks of 3 occur more frequently than their expectation, streaks of 6 plus slightly less.  while several lost progressions may be experienced in an evenings play, a BR of 50 units is usually enough.  The beauty of this system is that it is very easy to walk away if things start to go wrong. Switch to another table and start again.
      The "stepped progression" is more complex and the bets are made in stages or steps. the 1st 3 bets are the same as the KM above. If all 3 lose either wait for the current streak to end then look for a new target in the same EC pair OR switch to a new target in another EC pair. The important thing is to separate each step. After the 1st step each rise in level becomes a flat bet until the line is clear or a rise in level is required. E.G.
   1-2-3 loses -6   New Target
   3 total investment 9 Win bet 3 investment now 6 win =0 line clear. 6L-2W
   3  "         "          12 W -6 bet 3 -9 W -3 bet 3 -6 W = 0   "      "     7L-3W
   4  "         "          16 W -8   "  4 -12 W -4 "  4 -8 W =0     "      "     8L-3w
    Obviously bets can be won and lost during the flat bet series. If 9 loses raise level to 3/12, if 12 loses raise level to 4/16. If 4/16 loses. NEW TARGET.
   4/20  Bet 4 until line clear. If 4/20 lost bet
   5/25  Bet 5 until line clear. If 5/25 lost bet
   5/30  bet 5 until line clear. If 5/30 lost.      New target.
   The steps continue :-
   6/36
   6/42
   7/49

   7/56
   8/64
   8/72

   9/81
   9/90
  10/100 At this point 21 loses can be recovered with 9 wins.

     I never let the progression reach this stage. I kept a close eye on the win/lose ratio along the way looked for a way to abort after step 3. This isn't a strategy for a beginner but an experienced player will quickly learn to assess whether to continue or take a loss and start over. As only the 1st 2 bets in step 1 show a win it is better to accept a small loss to get back to step 1.
     I hope this is perfectly clear      Harry

[Nathan Detroit]

Harry,


It is true   that most finely tuned systems  are not  for beginners.

Glad to see your  method.

ND


P.S. Out of curiosity what is the value of  one unit?  Is it $5 or higher ? What are the bankroll requirements in that particular case.

[harryj]

 Hi ND,
       I haven't played that system for many years. Not since the local casinos increased the minimums on the outside Nos by 10 times. 150 times the basic unit size should be safe. Remember only the 1st stage wins. the rest are recovery levels. That is why it is better to look for a chance to abort if the W/L ratio doesn't allow the 2/1 advantage.
        I now play inside on the 6lines(double streets). I play 3 at a time as an EC bet. This gives me 10 possible EC bets Which I juggle constantly to follow the wheel trends.
        Go well       Harry

[Nathan Detroit]

Harryj,

Thanks  for your reply.An indication that you have earned your stripes in the trenches of live B   & M casinos.





HAPPY WINNINGS  !!!

ND

[harryj]

   Thanks ND,
         Perhaps you can help me. While browsing I found a thread that tested a system proposed by Belgian that was a tweak on the labby using a series of zeros and a singe 1. Plus a mini martingale before adding losses to the labby. 11 200 spin sessions were tested, part of a much longer test designed to prove that a W/L ratio of 65/135 could not be exceeded in 200 spins. I was interupted before I could finish the thread and have never been able to find it again. I think you took part in the discussions so you might be able to give me a link. I would love to know the final result and if the was any follow up.
       Thanks again       Harry.

[Nathan Detroit]

Harry

I might not recall the topic but  in my recollection are the names of  2 posters from that region.

They were CARLITOS and  Schoenpoetzer ( ? ).


ND

[biagle]

Hi ND,
       I haven't played that system for many years. Not since the local casinos increased the minimums on the outside Nos by 10 times. 150 times the basic unit size should be safe. Remember only the 1st stage wins. the rest are recovery levels. That is why it is better to look for a chance to abort if the W/L ratio doesn't allow the 2/1 advantage.
        I now play inside on the 6lines(double streets). I play 3 at a time as an EC bet. This gives me 10 possible EC bets Which I juggle constantly to follow the wheel trends.
        Go well       Harry

hello, can you tell also how you play the DS?

[harryj]

Hi Biagle,
      I now play in 40 spin sessions. The 1st 3-4 spins are not bet to get a feel of how the wheel is playing. I try to assess whether the wheel is currently alternating or repeating. I like to see 3 different DS before I start to bet. If  there are 3 different DS in 3 spins then I bet the other 3, if only 2 DS appear in 3 spins bet the last 3 to appear will repeat. I have found that this evens out the long losing/winning streaks. I rarely experience a 40 spin cycle with a more than one standard deviation variance. This allows very mild progressions and a relatively small BR.
   This is a basic betting method, and, while it is profitable, I look for other betting opportunaties along the way. After 40 spins I take a break, start a new record and try to clear my mind. It is surprising how easy it is to slip into a groove while at the table.
        Hope this is helpfull,  go well           Harry

[chiricahua]

Hi Biagle,
      I now play in 40 spin sessions. The 1st 3-4 spins are not bet to get a feel of how the wheel is playing. I try to assess whether the wheel is currently alternating or repeating. I like to see 3 different DS before I start to bet. If  there are 3 different DS in 3 spins then I bet the other 3, if only 2 DS appear in 3 spins bet the last 3 to appear will repeat. I have found that this evens out the long losing/winning streaks. I rarely experience a 40 spin cycle with a more than one standard deviation variance. This allows very mild progressions and a relatively small BR.
   This is a basic betting method, and, while it is profitable, I look for other betting opportunaties along the way. After 40 spins I take a break, start a new record and try to clear my mind. It is surprising how easy it is to slip into a groove while at the table.
        Hope this is helpfull,  go well           Harry

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[chiricahua]

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