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Started by lucky_strike, August 22, 2008, 05:41:51 AM

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lucky_strike

Read about lesson 1 to 5 you might learn something...

nolinks://nolinks.macaucasinoworld.com/baccarat_great_learning/

Make an reply and add your opinion...

Cheers LS

Natural9

LS I really not sure bout this one

The strategy sounds ok I guess Baccarat in some ways is a  boring game and having to wait till the 20th ,30th or 40th decision be very tough on the mind and body

Just how much do we want to win I guess one could that way but how much would boredom play in making mistakes  the is alot more to read on that site like the chinses new year lessen with the Q of clubbs

Just a couple of opinions ,will read more of that site

Also the wishy washy language the author uses(hand opens up like petals of a flower or something like that)  Guess thats how Asians write lol no offense to any Asian people here
  ::)

Regards Rodney

lucky_strike

I hear you mate and thanks...

The thing here is that its usless to use bet selections like RRBB or RRR or RRBBRR or RRBRRBRRB and play with or aginst it.

If we read about methods like above some members might undertand that an underrepresented or overrepresented loopside based upon math, statistics and probaility will give them a great method in the end.

Then win more, break even more and hit loss limit less will be reality.

Cheers LS

hermes

The Zuan Xin is a big teacher of Baccarat but I don't understand his pattern of the pattern. For sure it is a good strategy. Can somebody break the Zuan Xin code and explain it to us what Zuan Xin think. Actually, he gave even his e-mail to contacting him for questions.
Hermes

JLP

Quote from: hermes on August 25, 2008, 11:20:48 PM
The Zuan Xin is a big teacher of Baccarat but I don't understand his pattern of the pattern. For sure it is a good strategy. Can somebody break the Zuan Xin code and explain it to us what Zuan Xin think. Actually, he gave even his e-mail to contacting him for questions.
Hermes

Hi mate,

I wonder the same. Someone understood it?
Here is the base image of the Master patterns :



[highlight]Hi JLP I hade to remove the text here, because I assume that you copy and paste it from the site, so regarding copyright laws I thougt is best to do so, because it can become an issue.

But PLZ delete this message if you want to add something to it again, then you just have to use your own words to tell about the basics of the strategy.

I did not remove the image because I don´t think its matters.

Thanks for sharing JLP.
[/highlight]

==========================

It´s Ok. I understand mate.
But I think if the original info is posted on Internet then it becomes public and being so it can be shared.

Cheers,
JLP.-

Spike

The Zuan Xin is a big teacher of Baccarat but I don't understand his pattern of the pattern. >>>

Its bogus, don't bother with it. He's betting totally on Gamblers Fallacy, that something is 'due'. Its not.

lucky_strike

Nice to see that you still have opinions spike and its nice to have you here.

Now why don´t you show all the member why it does not work, feel free to add anything to it.

Feel free to post a demonstration we all can learn from.

Happy winning to all...

Cheers Lucky Strike

hermes

What zuan says is that we have secure chance win bet every second Christmas and between we wait for the chance to occur. If it doesn't occurs we will win on the 3rd Christmas, for sure. Something like that. We would need to have an iron patience and Chinese are known that they have it. They are sitting in their convenience stores the whole day to earn $2.50.
Nothing for me, thanks.
Hermes

kiddo

hehe Zuan's methods are mathematically correct. Shoes do balance themselves out during play according to his chart. Sure you have the anomalies but majority of shoes do balance. Very rarely do you have a streaky shoe that stays streaky or vice versa. Those who do want to analyze this further here is a shoe that was played recently with his mathematical presence.

Units: $2000 Betting Strategy: 2% of visit bankroll Threshold: 1/7(14%)

B
B
P - a double B outcome mark on your score cards accordingly.
B
B
P - doubles are becoming common
P
B - another double... count 3D 1S so far
B
P - another double 4D 1S
B - break in the shoe. the 2,2 streak is no longer stable 4D 2S
B - another 2 situation. there is a 25% chance it will double again. threshold still not met will wait.
B - here is the break shoe is going to try to correct itself. we have 4D 2S 1(3+) wait out the streak before betting.
P - streak is now broken threshold is still not met we are still at a 25% threshold that a double will be coming up soon.
P
B - there is the double 5D 2S 1(3+) is now the count. threshold is now met, we have a 86% chance it will be P next round. 1 Unit on player
P - 5D 3S 1(3+) According a balanced shoe should have singles at 50% of the outcome. and with the threshold still at 14% chance of a double we will bet on a jump to B. bankroll+1
B - bankroll +2, threshold still at 14% until another double comes out or until 6S is reached.
P - bankroll +3, threshold is at 14% we would be expecting one more jump so we keep playing.
P - bankroll +2 a double player 14% chance it will jump to bank. we will play on the run of players.
P - bankroll +3 a triple player 3+ count is now at 2 which is still under the norm (25% of a shoe should be runs of 3 or more) do not bet now. wait for the streak to end
B - streak has ended we continue on our path to the regular shoe. betting on a jump for a complete balance of 6S.
P - bankroll +4 shoe is now balanced again with 6S 5D 2(3+) personally I find it not safe to bet on runs of 3 or more unless its at an imbalance of 7% or less. like the above situation where we had 1 (3+) out of 11 consecutive jumps. roughly 9% when it should be closer to 25%
P
B
P
P
B
P
P
B
P
B
B
B
B
B
P
B
B
P
P
B
B
P


I will fill in the rest later gotta run.


kiddo

Quote from: JLP on August 26, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
Quote from: hermes on August 25, 2008, 11:20:48 PM
The Zuan Xin is a big teacher of Baccarat but I don't understand his pattern of the pattern. For sure it is a good strategy. Can somebody break the Zuan Xin code and explain it to us what Zuan Xin think. Actually, he gave even his e-mail to contacting him for questions.
Hermes

Hi mate,

I wonder the same. Someone understood it?
Here is the base image of the Master patterns :



[highlight]Hi JLP I hade to remove the text here, because I assume that you copy and paste it from the site, so regarding copyright laws I thougt is best to do so, because it can become an issue.

But PLZ delete this message if you want to add something to it again, then you just have to use your own words to tell about the basics of the strategy.

I did not remove the image because I don´t think its matters.

Thanks for sharing JLP.
[/highlight]

==========================

It´s Ok. I understand mate.
But I think if the original info is posted on Internet then it becomes public and being so it can be shared.

Cheers,
JLP.-

Alrighty lets describe this chart as you can see there is a 9/64 section thats been outlined in the chart. Lets do some quick math here. In an average baccarat shoe, will have:

80 outcomes
72 hands of banker or player
8 hands of tie

in an 8 deck shoe.

60 outcomes
54 hands of banker/player
6 hands of tie

in a 6 deck shoe.

What Zuan is implying in the chart:

(36-R1-C)
(8 DECK) Out of those 72 hands of banker and player there will be an average of 36 jumps between the two outcomes
(6 DECK) Out of the 54 hands of player/banker there will be 27 jumps between the two outcomes
R1 just means the 1st row. the C stands for a consecutive jump.

(18-R2-S)
(8 DECK) Out of those 36 jumps there will be on average 18 single jumps from banker to player and vice versa.
(6 DECK) out of those 27 jumps there will be 14 single jumps between the two.
R2 just means the 2nd row. the S stands for single.

(9-R3-D-F(S))
(8 DECK) out of the other 18 of the 36 consecutive jumps 9 of them will be doubles (aka terrible twos) of banker/player vice versa
(6 DECK) out of the other 14 of the 27 jumps there will be roughly 7 doubles of banker/player vice versa
here we have on the 3rd row. that a Function at single (f(s))  we have a chance to see this Single outcome go to a double (repeat) outcome.

(4 1/2-R4-T-F(D)-1xS)
this is where it gets a bit confusing most people are lost by this point. but I will try to explain it in plain English.
(8 DECK) out of the other 9 jumps 4.5 of them will be triples
(6 DECK) out of the other 7 jumps 3.5 of them will be triples
now before the 4th row comes we now have a chance for a triple which explains F(D). while locking in a single jump already. according to the pattern of the patterns its mathematical nature states that out of the 3 hands we have just witnessed 50% of it will be a run of 2 or more. therefore explaining his reasoning for the balance between the single outcome and a double outcome which could possibly go to a 3 IAR(in a row outcome).

(2 1/4-R5-4-F(T)-1xD-2xS)
(8 DECK) you guys should know where this is going by now. out of the 4.5 consecutive jumps which lead to 3 or more IAR 50% of them will be 4 or more IAR
(6 DECK) out of the 3.5, 50% will be 4 or more IAR
once again lets break this down. in row 4 going into 5 we should now have 2 consecutive jumps (singles), 1 double (1xD), and a possible double to go to triple (F(T))

will try to give more explination just something for those who are interested to think about it


JLP

Hi Kiddo,

Thanks for the useful explanation you made.
I think is important where the sector is outlined (9/64) - can you explain only that section mate??

Here I put a scorecard of the way that Zuan Xim tracks the outcomes - someone can explain it??



I see it in this way:
I think he groups the same outcomes in vertical when the same hit (like 3BBB in a row - so that he puts on the same column).
But when he changes the row he follows the sequence number from 1 to 9, and at the end of each sequence he writes 0 (as number 10).And when he changes from the first horizontal line to the second one he writes 1 and so on and follows the sequencial order (1 to 9).
But that is a little confusing - why not mark B and P instead??
Yes he looks for events that deviate away from the pattern of the patterns and bets next to restore the equilibrium . I am wrong???

Cheers,
JLP.-

cotongo

I think his way of writing the score help him monitor the number of each streak appeared. However, I find that it is not correct if you look at number 6 at row 3. This becomes streak of 5 not streak of 3. The system relied on frequence of series is the best system because it is based on math. Of course it does not always work for 1 shoe, but usually work for 3 shoes. If you have good bankroll and use it methodically, you will win consistantly. Chao! Dylan

bigjoe

Fifty percent of of decisions are singles. Fifty percent the second hole is filled. Twenty five percent have the three hole filled. Twelve point five have the four hole filled.Etc,etc.

You can glance at the card quickly and see every zero is ten decisions. You can see if its hitting the fifty percent on the two hole easily. Is the three hole a quarter of the decisions.

Sometime ago I tried to explain this as I see it. Each hole has its value as well as its expected value. If in ten decisions you have no two hole it is more than due. But the question is do you just start betting for it or wait till it hits or think your in a huge swing against it.

The balance out happens but unless your phsychic you won't know when. But you can gage a pretty intelligent guess.

What does this keep you from doing? Instead of running say an anti progession against p or b after two hits. You can run a progession from three hole to three hole when you feel the time is right. If you look at several cards tracked this way you can see its not a bad way to play and you won't get killed in a one pop series each hole would be a different bet. You will even see as the run goes longer the bet gets less if its against the run of course....

Eventually playing this way you would win. It would have to...... GL Bj

bigjoe

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