2nd attempt, new system.

[codegenic]

Have been playing an idea for the last few days, with great results, however I need it tested ( funmoney and spins ).

Basically I freespin once and then bet the opposite 18 numbers plus the dozen the number hit. Now I need a good progression scheme.

Example.

Nr. 3 hit
I bet 19-36 and 1st12 / dozen 1 ( 0 can be included with a minor wager naturally assuming you up the other wagers accordingly )

next it hits 26
I bet 1-18 and 3rd12 / dozen 3

On loss I spin the wheel, look at what hit and then start over again with the approapiate progression in order to make up for lost money and make a profit as well.

Let me know if further explanation is needed. I quite fancy the way this works, since many numbers are covered and I am not obligated to follow a losing dozen or winning dozen for that matter.

total spins, 1189 ( yes I am weird that way lol ),

BR 3194
lowest - 6 units
highest + 163 units
end : 3357

Regards,
//Codegenic

[codegenic]

Addendum

Staying clear of the midsection might enhance your play. In other words, if it hits 2nd12/dozen 2, then dont bet and spin again, hereby only betting dozen 1 & 3. Not sure it makes a difference, but some might feel threatened by the midnumbers in between the outer dozens.

//Codegenic

[insidebet]

Codegenic,

You are probably new to Roulette.  Progressions are NOT the answer.  OK' Don't believe me. Do your test ans you will see. Sooner rather than later the progression will be so steep your balls will break.


Insidebet

[codegenic]

Codegenic,

You are probably new to Roulette.  Progressions are NOT the answer.  OK' Don't believe me. Do your test ans you will see. Sooner rather than later the progression will be so steep your balls will break.


Insidebet

I was thinking more in the likes of negative progression, alternatively a custom fitted pluscoup ( the one I am using now ), but thank you for your reply. Why wouldnt I believe you? Progression can kill your BR if not used carefully. I am that not that "new" to the game .

//Codegenic

[insidebet]

Codegenic,

Thanks for the clarification. A negative progression is more like it.  Although I have tried that in the past.  I thought: `bet more on good streaks and less on bad streaks`.  I found that it does not change much.  `Lucky`or `good`streaks are just as unpredictable as the rest. At least, this is my experience.

Insidebet

[codegenic]

Codegenic,

Thanks for the clarification. A negative progression is more like it.  Although I have tried that in the past.  I thought: `bet more on good streaks and less on bad streaks`.  I found that it does not change much.  `Lucky`or `good`streaks are just as unpredictable as the rest. At least, this is my experience.

Insidebet

No doubt.
I am just content with the fact that this system doesnt rely on last won or lost, it stays cleer of sleepers and the opposites and it covers almost all numbers, still with a profit of 3+ per spin. Only challenge for the moment is when the mid section hits. Leaving them open can be extremely annoying, but playing with damage control, one could minimize the loss by betting a very low amount on this alwas, and thn eliminate the need for larger bets due to progression. In short you win on both randomness and streeks. Loving it

//Codegenic

[insidebet]

Codegenic,

What did you mean by "negative progression" and "custom fitted coup"? Can you give example?
Also, you say you want to recuperate losses on next bet after a loss. Sounds to me like normal aggressive progression, n'est-ce-pas?


You say you gain 3 units on a win. I don't understand. If you bet 1 to 18 and third dz, that makes a total of 30 units, right?  A win will give you 36 units. 36-30=6.  No?

[codegenic]

What I meant was this.

Spin the weheel, observe what hits ( ie. # 3 ), then bit on that dozen and 19-36 ( even bet ) and 0.
Bets could be placed like this:

0,5 € on 0
4 units on even bet 19-36
3 units on dozen 1st12

( if need be you can bet the numbers not covered with a sixline bet, thus minimizing the loss )
if win, then free spin again and reduce bets
if loss, then increase bets
or do it the other way around, either way find what suits you the most.

//Codegenic

[insidebet]

Codegenic,

It really is up to you but covering the remaining 6 numbers is a non-sense.  That would mean that you cover EVERY number on the wheel.  There is only on way you are 100% sure to loose at the game of roulette: it is to cover the whole table with one (or more than one) unit.  Then you are sure to loose one unit per spin. Right?   Any other form of bet you can win if lucky enough.   I know you put  more chips on certain numbers than others but it is still a non-sense.  If you take away one unit per number and leave at least one number uncovered, you will save one unit per spin.  And, if your "good" numbers hit, you will make exactly the same profit.  So it you 100 spins you will have 100 more units no matter what comes put.  Do a simple ten spin test, you will see what I mean.

Where I play, I see people covering the whole table everyday.  It is just mind-boggling to see relatively intelligent people that cannot count better than this....

Insidebet

[Talesman]

That's a very old bet.

Best left to one or two wins betting large units.  Hit and run.

There is also a discussion of it at the Wizard of Odds site where an alleged  dealer brought it up as a winning plan.

You can also split the bet covering the opposite dozen and play that on your personal selection of double streets (assuming your plan plays 3 and 2).

[codegenic]

That's a very old bet.

Best left to one or two wins betting large units.  Hit and run.

There is also a discussion of it at the Wizard of Odds site where an alleged  dealer brought it up as a winning plan.

You can also split the bet covering the opposite dozen and play that on your personal selection of double streets (assuming your plan plays 3 and 2).

The funny thing about these ideas finding their way to the forum is, that someone at some point have had them before. Hence I never NEVER take credit for anything other than the fact that I too thought of it. I must admit, my time is spent thinking, not copying, and when I hve had a thought I post it here.

Anyway, one could easily use the progression of their own. Maybe combine it with Turbos from the "holy grail" theory, and then customfit it to match ones needs. I thank you however for your reply. Feedback is always nice.

//Codegenic

[Talesman]

I am not knocking it.  I admit to using it and have done so lots of times. 

Of all the ways I have played it during extensive testing on actuals from both wheels playing FTL as to where the high or low bet gets placed is the way to go.

The bet will bite you in the butt eventually as most bets where you have to lay odds will do.  That is why I now limit myself to one or two quick hits playing black chips.  Either at the start of the day to get some extra cash to play slots or at the end of the day if I wish to bolster what I had made or to cover some shortfall in regard to my daily goal.  I've been known to play it with green chips to cover lunch when comps aren't available.

Just be wary is all I am saying. 

[codegenic]

I appreciate your feedback. Now here is my update. Just wanted to give something in return.
Having played the system now on a steady basis I can conclude this.

Its the bet I have tried yet. I bet 1 unit on dozen1, if it wins I have coke and a smile.
If it loses I repeat the bet, then add a unit to 2nd dozen. If it wins, my bet is covered and then I get to drink some more coke lol.
However, should it lose, I repeat the bet, ( so in other words, dozen 1 and 2 are covered each with a unit ) and I now add two units to 3rd dozen.
Should I lose again I begin with system #2. Playing the bets till they all win or previous bets are covered. Granted this is time consuming, but I almost always get +1 up in every 3rd round and if not then I am p +3 or +5 in getting all bets home winning.

I never progress with doubles and I maintain the BR at a reasonable level even when playing the recovery bets.
I am quite fund of this and cant complain.

//Codegenic

[codegenic]

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