Just my opinion, so far no simple system here works long-term yet

[bombus]

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Why not?

1) It does not exist  a way to gain an poistive expectaion.
LS

That'll do...

[Diarmaid]

But do you fully understand what he is saying bombus?

There is never a positive expectation in roulette, it always going to be negative, but that doesn't mean that you as a player cannot overcome that negative expectation, the house edge in roulette is very small, well at least on the European wheel.

[lucky_strike]

bombus here is a question

if you have 900$ then would you spend that at your local casino or would you educate your self about the game
I would educate my self and see it as an investment

then there is an other issue if you pick the later option
would you spend the money on fun action player books with progressions, bet selections, money management, discipline and so on
or would you spend the money on how some great names have study the game with an scientific approach

??

LS

[seykid29]

Hi all,
i think a big weakness in roulette is lack of patience,concentration. . the urge to win big is strong an lack of focus you lose many occuring patterns. . dont know if anyone have seen this i plal automated roulette with live ball,a OOO,yeahh a triple zero,and with study i now manage to turn 150 unit into 600.
Seykid.

[bombus]

bombus here is a question

if you have 900$ then would you spend that at your local casino or would you educate your self about the game
I would educate my self and see it as an investment

then there is an other issue if you pick the later option
would you spend the money on fun action player books with progressions, bet selections, money management, discipline and so on
or would you spend the money on how some great names have study the game with an scientific approach

??

LS

Do you mean me specifically, or people in general?
I'll go with people in general...
Education is obviously the first port of call in any field of interest, and money invested in education is never misspent.
Unfortunately an education in gambling is no different to any other form, and requires both theoretical and practical study. So some money and time does eventually need to be invested in real play, the more the better, actually.
If I were a young man I would invest my time and money in a mainstream education with career prospects, not bloody roulette. But I've been there, done that, so in my present retirement I can afford to pick up my 40+ years gambling education once again, and have some fun with it, no pressure.
Believe it or not, I have in the past forfeited my entire working casino bankroll to pay for a student's university fees over a 4 year degree, so no need to convince me about education.

As a matter of interest, my gambling education started when I was just a lad, running bets for punters down to the SP bookies house. Apparently you could get your bets on with the SP's for a few moments after the horses jumped. I would get to the front door of the Bookie house then turn back to the punter's house and await the signal. If the horse to be bet on got a good jump the punter's hand would come down hard, and I would run in and get the bet on. If the horse jumped poorly, a wave of the hand would call me back. They gained a small edge with this method.
My grandmother was known as Last Race Laurna.  She had an uncanny ability to pick the winner of the last race week in and week out. A crowd would gather around last race time with all eyes on Laurna. When she got up to put her bet on there was always a mad push by the crowd to see what she had picked. I have been hooked on the punt ever since.

As for posting a consistently profitable system, some reasons no one does are,
The method is too ethereal so can't be explained adequately.
The method is too complicated so can't be explained adequately.
The method is too convoluted so can't be explained adequately.
The method is too risky so can't be afforded adequately.
The method is under contract so can't be disclosed legally.
And last but definitely not least, the creator is too afraid of not being remunerated for their intellectual property. They are worried someone with more resources will make a fortune out of it and they will get nothing.

I can go along with all these reason except the last one. For that one I couldn't give a rat's arse. If I came up with an absolute gem of a system, I would post it on a forum without blinking. Let someone make a motza, who cares? And even if the system was by all accounts truly a winner, it will only ever filter down to a relative handful of the population, so again, who cares?

[GARNabby]

 So.....every idea has been thought of?
« on: September 19, 2009, 12:44:08 PM » Reply Quote  

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This subject always kills me. Most (not all) believe that EVERY roulette method/idea has already been thought of and played. (I disagree) I dont need the exact date or what the method was or the author but can someone tell me what YEAR the LAST roulette idea was conceived? Thanks,  Ken.
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Ken, perhaps I can go for "two birds with one stone" here.

Maybe there's more money in turning out "unreadable" roulette-wheels?  How hard would it be, if not a lot easier than the other way around?

I mean, all the discussion about light/heavy balls, etc,... when no one really seems to understand the differences/samenesses.  What one weight gives up in one way, it gains in another way (on a different weight)?

And more likely, that's already what they're using.  (The "eye in the sky" still mostly concerned with employee-cheating, with whomever.)

[Twocando]

Guys

Sorry I must say no no no. a simple system work short and long term. It's how you play the system. In any game you practice to perfect something, but when this in real live change what now?

SO if the simple system works in short term but fails in long term, means that to play the against the system you will win in the long term.

But what is long term. If you play for target budget not to big or small lets say 20% of Bankroll. What do you do if you reach this target. Even brokers on money market work with start and stop. They don't just let it run.

The talk about random and sequence is the same Random can't be random if there is a sequence but if something is random then its a sequence.

There is more wrong's than rights on the table, so go for the wrong. If a guy plays max in table and lose play outside the max. Let that guy lead and fall.

Garnabby Yes mate you are right. Too much crying over something that are not exploit. The ball size stay the same for a couple of spins. The major thing than change more often is the force over movement. This is the speed of wheel and the ball. Even length of dealers, reach to the wheel. Left handed or right. Muscle memory....


Twocando     

[Lohnro]

The talk about random and sequence is the same Random can't be random if there is a sequence but if something is random then its a sequence.

Hi Twocando,

Sorry mate, can you make this statement less confusing?

Cheers,

[lucky_strike]

Thanks bombus that was an nice reply and i enjoy the read.

LS

[shadowman]

Bombus

I also found that an excellent read, thanks

Mike

[shadowman]

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