Crossings Checker vr2.2

[bjb007]

A few tweaks and better graph plotting.

Now what shall I do next?  Might do an
idea I have to predict future crossings.
Well otherwise you have to guess, don't
you?

What is life but one big guessing game?

[TwoCatSam]

bj

Here are the "trackables" we need.......

Exactly 0
Exactly 1
>1
Exactly 2
>2
Exactly 3
>3

I'm probably wrong, but it seems to me that on your software v 2.2 you are saying >1 and 2 are the same thing.  As far as the G.U.T., they are not.  Droidman's Track 3 breaks them down like this, except we don't need >0.

I thank you for what you have done/do/might do/plan to do.

Sam

[bjb007]

Sam

This a mathematical conundrum to me and one
which I raised (to no avail) with winkel some
time ago.

Can a number have two hits without first having one?

Can a number have three hits without first having two?

etc. etc.

Study this picture:

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Q: How does a number qualify to be included in the
    > 1 total?
A: By having 2 hits. (Not 3 or 4. Only 2 gives
    the right answer.)

So the number of numbers with > 1 has to be the same
as the number of numbers with =2.

So a graph of "numbers > 1" is identical to a graph of
"numbers = 2"

Q: How does a number qualify to be included in the
    >2 total?
A: By having 3 hits. (Not 4 or 5.  Only 3 gives the
    right answer.)

So the number of numbers with >2  has to be the same
as the number of numbers with =3.

So a graph of "numbers >2" is identical to a graph of
"numbers = 3"

If you look at the graphs in Crossings Checker do you
notice anything about the red line (unhit numbers) and
the green line (numbers with 1 hit)?

Clue: look in the mirror.

Check this against the Tracker output if
you need "independent" confirmation.

This is why the GUT is almost impossible to understand.
A lot of the information said to be required isn't. In fact
it only causes confusion.

I could plot a graph of numbers > 1, > 2 etc. but you wouldn't
see them since they would coincide with the graphs already
generated.

It follows, therefore, that the GUT is nothing more than a
method for betting on unhit numbers, whether it be unhit once,
twice or thrice etc.

If you think about my "Last Six" or "Last Twelve" progs you'll find
that they do the same thing.  When you hit the reload button
you will get numbers that have hit two or three times - but they
aren't treated differently.  These progs are, in fact, simply moving
up to a line which has six or twelve unhit numbers.

You would get the same result if you subtracted one from each
number in Crossings Checker when the bottom line unhit is less
than, say, 9 and repeating the process until the bottom line
showed six or twelve unhit numbers.

The GUT is an extreme example of "Bullshit Baffles Brains".

Happy spinning.

[TwoCatSam]

bj

I will readily admit I am not the one to answer your questions, except for the first two.  A number cannot appear twice without first appearing once.

As to the 0 v 1 and the mirror, well, I haven't got a clue.  I do have something:  One more post to print and take the red pencil to.

I'm really learning a lot and I haven't the foggiest idea why. 

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

bj

You see I'm missing something here.  You wrote:

Q: How does a number qualify to be included in the
    > 1 total?
A: By having 2 hits. (Not 3 or 4. Only 2 gives
    the right answer.)

Today I had some drinks.  I had more than 1.  (>1)  So, who on this planet can tell me how many drinks I had?  The only way I can answer it is this:  I had one drink and at least one more drink.  I may have had ten drinks and fell on me arse!

I will never understand how >1 can only be two.  It must have something to do with graphing, of which I know nothing!

Today I made a movie of 50 winkel spins and tracked them with your v2.2 and Track 3.

I can post it if anyone would like to see what the graph does.

Sam

[winkel]

The GUT is an extreme example of "Bullshit Baffles Brains".

So then let´s go back to Kindergarten:

here´s a list
2   0   0   2   0   2   0   3   1   0   1   4   1   0   5   1   0   5   1   1   3   0   2   1   1   2   0   2   2   1   1   0   0   3   2   1   0

1.Q: How many number have hit more than once (>1)
2.Q: How many numbers have hit twice (2)
3.Q: How many numbers have hit more than twice (>2)

Q1: all numbers qualify which are 2 3 4 5
Q2: all numbers qualify which are 2
Q3: all numbers qualify which are 3 4 5

thats math form the childrens playschool

the total result:
0 hits 12
1 hit 11
>1 hit 14
2 hit 8
>2 hit 6

[bjb007]

Let me rephrase the question.

How can the Tracker columns labeled "> 0" and "1"
contain different numbers?

How can the Tracker columns labeled ">1" and "2"
contain different numbers?

How can the Tracker columns labeled ">2" and "3"
contain different numbers?

Misleading labels? And if so, what should the labels
be to correctly describe the numbers which appear?

[TwoCatSam]

Let me rephrase the question.

How can the Tracker columns labeled "> 0" and "1".......>0 can be any number except zero.  "1" is exactly 1.  >0 could be 2,3,4, and on to infinity.
contain different numbers?

How can the Tracker columns labeled ">1" and "2"....>1 could be any number except 0 or 1.  "2" is exactly two.  >1 could be two or any number thereafter.
contain different numbers?

How can the Tracker columns labeled ">2" and "3"...>2 is any number except 0, 1 or 2  "3" is exactly 3.
contain different numbers?

Misleading labels? And if so, what should the labels
be to correctly describe the numbers which appear?

Let's say 10 number have hit once each.  Your chart looks like this:

[table=,]
0,1,>1,2,>2,3
27,10,
[/table]

You have 10 numbers who have hit exactly once.

Then one of the ten numbers repeats.  Our table looks like this:

[table=,]
0,1,>1,2,>2,3
27,9,1,1
[/table]

Now you only have nine numbers that have hit exactly once and one that has hit exactly twice or >1

Suppose yet another number from the nine remaining "1s" hits again.  Our table looks like this:

[table=,]
0,1,>1,2,>2,3
27,8,2,2
[/table]

Now you have 8 numbers who have hit exactly once, two that have hit twice and those same two have hit >1

Now suppose one of the numbers that has hit twice hits again:

[table=,]
0,1,>1,2,>2,3
27,8,2,1,1,1
[/table]

Now your numbers hitting exactly twice has gone down to one, and your numbers hitting >2 and "3" have hit once each.

Please understand, 0,1,2,3  mean exactly 0 1 2 3..no more no less

Sam

[winkel]

[table=,]
0  ,   1     ,>1  ,   2     ,>2  ,   3 
27,   8   ,2   ,1   ,2,   1


[/table]this one should be[table=,]

0  ,   1     ,>1  ,   2     ,>2  ,   3 
27,   8   ,2   ,1   ,1,   1

[/table]

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

Sorry, it was late and I was tired.  I edited the post.

Sam

[bjb007]

winkel

Thanks for the "kindergarten" maths lesson.
Can't believe I survived as an engineer for
thirty-five years without knowing what >1
meant.

I was so appalled at my ignorance that I had
to "Google Earth" to the Erskine Bridge in Scotland
to check that all was well.  I was given the task
of calculating the co-ordinates of the supporting
piers when I was working for the designing engineers
in London in 1966.

The tallest pier is around 180 feet and the bridge
is built on a curve.  From the photographs everything
seems to be in the right place.

Must confess I got one wrong but something so
important would be checked by another engineer
and my error was picked up and corrected.

Can't believe I did that without knowing the meaning
of "> 1" or having a computer to help me.

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So back to the great ">1" mystery.

In "winkel-math" and the "GUT Tracker" the symbol
"> 1" does not mean "> 1".

Referring to lines 1 and 2 in "Crossings Checker"
"> 1" in "winkel-math" means numbers which have
hit once and not hit twice i.e. they have no entry
in line 2.

The same applies to "> 2" except that it applies
to lines 2 and 3 of "Crossings Checker".

So what we're talking about is non-repeaters.

So the short description of GUT so far is...

"Plot graphs of repeating numbers,non-repeating numbers
and unhit numbers and use them to pick which numbers
to bet on."

"Bullshit Baffles Brains" seems more appropriate than
before.

"Crossings Checker vr2.5" includes a help file which you
can follow to see the repeaters/non-repeaters system at
work.

[winkel]

Can't believe I did that without knowing the meaning
of "> 1" or having a computer to help me.

So do I 

[winkel]

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