TwoCat Tests the G.U.T Mach II Movies Mandatory. New Rules.

[kompressor]

i think its time to go back to my casino tonight ..  ...i've put this system on the ice after your bad performance 10-12 days ago....even if I had 255$ gain with first two crossing....but this time I think i'll start with 2.50 units instead of 5....try your double bet strategy if things go bad and increase unit value after a few hundred profits

+24 units.....but I was playing on a touchbet americain wheel just to see how it perform...i've hit tne 00 on my first few bet 


but the split 0/00 have come 5 times in 50 spins.... ....i think i'll try this split tonight


SAM

sorry for you....i had to double bet twice last night and one time i've recover a 100 units drawdown...i little bit of luck

[TwoCatSam]

Guys,

You are right..a $200 unit loss in unacceptable.   I was pushing too hard.  Sometimes I do that.  I'm working on it.


I find it strange that I had great sessions until I went to a $1 and then it turned on me.  I recall the guys saying this about the RNG machinges.

Last night was a less for me.  Not to worry...

Thanks

Sam

[madupz4]

Guys,

You are right..a $200 unit loss in unacceptable.   I was pushing too hard.  Sometimes I do that.  I'm working on it.


I find it strange that I had great sessions until I went to a $1 and then it turned on me.  I recall the guys saying this about the RNG machinges.

Last night was a less for me.  Not to worry...

Thanks

Sam

TCS,

Were you playin on RNG when you had the -200 unit loss?  I thought you were playing on live wheel online?

[Herb]

Guys,

You are right..a $200 unit loss in unacceptable.   I was pushing too hard.  Sometimes I do that.  I'm working on it.

Guys, I've got news for you.  If you think a 200 unit loss is unacceptable, then you shouldn't be playing this game. 

Even when you have the edge, you're going to have normal random fluctuations that exceed 400 units or more.
It depends on the size of your edge.  If your edge is very small, then you can plan on fluctuations that even exceed 1k units.



-Herb

[TwoCatSam]

mad

No, I am not using an RNG.  I am playing Riverbelle Live.  When you watch the video, you will see a human spinning the ball.  Guess that tells me what all my work to post videos is going to!  Just bought a new mic to try to cure the lag. 

If anyone watches this video, you'll see I got within $15 of being ahead.  Should I have quit?  Well hindsight is 20/20!! 

Did I enjoy dropping $200?  Nope!  Will I get ahead again?

TIME WILL TELL!


The rules will be posted in every post:

0vs1
0vs>1
0vs2
1vs>1
1vs2
1vs3
2vs>2
2vs3
3vs>3

I will pretty much play every possible crossing and any and all crossings that don't add up to >17


Motion Box: You may never move the yellow box past the end of the blue crawl line! To do so will cause echoing in my voice!

My highest points in the study will be green!

If you see this in the results chart:

14
29
^^--ABOVE WAS ERASED
28

that means I put in #29 first and it was a mistake. Should have been 28, so you take out the 29 and it is correct.


[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Total to Date
10.27.8,,,$4.50,,,$4.50
10.27,,,$0.50,,,$5.00
10.28.8,,,$16.50,,,$21.50
10.28.8.2,,,<$6>,,,$15.50
10.28.8.3,,,<8.50>,,,7
10.28.8.4,,,<$19.50>,,,<$12.50>
10.29.8,,,$15.50,,,$3.00
10.30.8.1,,,$25.5,,,$28.50
10.30.8.2,,,$36,,,$64.50
10.30.8.3,,,<$16>,,,$48.50
10.31.8.,,,$20.50,,,$69
11.1.8.1,,,<$37.50>,,,$31.50
11.1.8.2,,,$35.00,,,$66.50
11.1.8.3,,,<$10.00>,,,$56.50
Begin,,,betting,,,all xings
Rules,,,out the,,,window!
11.2.8.1,,,$15,,,$71.50
11.2.8.2,,,<$42.50>,,,$29.00
11.2.8.3,,,$44.00,,,$79.00
11.3.8.1,,,$24.50,,,$104
11.2.8.2,,,$50,,,$154
11.3.8.3,,,$22.50,,,$176.50
11.3.8.3,,,$36.50,,,$213.00
11.4.8.1,,,$15.50,,,$228.50
11.4.8.2,,,$8.50,,,$237
11.4.8.3,,,$40.50,,,$277.50
11.4.8.4,,,<$207>,,,$77.50
11.5.8.1,,,$149,,,$226.50
[/table]



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[Herb]

It's just amazing, you quote "gamblers fallacy" and here we have "Herb fallacy". I have never designed a system where it will "exceed 400 units or more". Check out the 4Selecta test results, have you never heard of minimum losses?

Mr. Chips,

You have yet to design a system that works, let alone one that can prevent large drawdowns. 

Stopping when you're down 50 or 100 units doesn't change the long term performance.  You will still experience the inevitable.

-Herb

[Herb]

Mr. Chips,

I just don't know how to say this with out insulting you. Basically, you don't know what you don't know.

My statements are based on facts and experience.  I know that you don't comprehend why the drawdowns can be as large as what I posted.
The reason that you don't understand it is because you simply don't comprehend basic probability, let alone something as complex as probability of ruin calculations.
I've also had the luxury of very complex roulette programs to test the normal random drawdowns that can and do inevitably occur.  You on the other hand lack all of the above.

Regarding your system.  I've seen some of your testing.  All I can say is the testing is suspect and incomplete at best.  The entire foundation of the system immediately demonstrates that the system doesn't stand a chance in hell of working in the long run. I suspect that you already know this as well.

-Herb

[Natural9]

Hmm I wonder why herb is here if nothing works why bother looking at these boards its always the 2.7% edge no matter what method you use

But you are wrong Herb you may be right about GUT you may not be but if  you try the LW strategy that  Victor and Lanky uses and I have used I has very little drawdown  tho drawdowns can happrn but it is always grinding upwards

One reason why alot of people dont play it is becasue its a boring system that what grind methods are. but I emphasise they do win and win in long run as well

Regards Rodney

[TwoCatSam]

People

I'm about through posting movies.&nbsp; Very, very few people view them at all.&nbsp; Not worth my time and work.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good teaching tool, but it seems no one wants to learn much.&nbsp; I will continue to make the movies with comments, but not upload them.&nbsp; They are always great until uploaded to Motion Box.

I am also going to shorten the spiel at the beginning and just post the good stuff.

Sam


[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Total to Date
10.27.8,,,$4.50,,,$4.50
10.27,,,$0.50,,,$5.00
10.28.8,,,$16.50,,,$21.50
10.28.8.2,,,<$6>,,,$15.50
10.28.8.3,,,<8.50>,,,7
10.28.8.4,,,<$19.50>,,,<$12.50>
10.29.8,,,$15.50,,,$3.00
10.30.8.1,,,$25.5,,,$28.50
10.30.8.2,,,$36,,,$64.50
10.30.8.3,,,<$16>,,,$48.50
10.31.8.,,,$20.50,,,$69
11.1.8.1,,,<$37.50>,,,$31.50
11.1.8.2,,,$35.00,,,$66.50
11.1.8.3,,,<$10.00>,,,$56.50
Begin,,,betting,,,all xings
Rules,,,out the,,,window!
11.2.8.1,,,$15,,,$71.50
11.2.8.2,,,<$42.50>,,,$29.00
11.2.8.3,,,$44.00,,,$79.00
11.3.8.1,,,$24.50,,,$104
11.2.8.2,,,$50,,,$154
11.3.8.3,,,$22.50,,,$176.50
11.3.8.3,,,$36.50,,,$213.00
11.4.8.1,,,$15.50,,,$228.50
11.4.8.2,,,$8.50,,,$237
11.4.8.3,,,$40.50,,,$277.50
11.4.8.4,,,<$207>,,,$77.50
11.5.8.1,,,$149,,,$226.50
11.5.8.2,,,$80,,,$306.50
[/table]

I am certain someone somewhere sometime will accuse me of cheating/lying/whatever.  I will always have the videos archived and can pull out my witness at a moment's notice.

If a person comes along who really wants to learn this, I'll proudly work with you.

And, yes, it's probably all luck!


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[Natural9]

Interesting stuff in your vid Sam

I will for sure look at em from now on tc mate

Rodney

[Natural9]

People

I'm about through posting movies.&nbsp; Very, very few people view them at all.&nbsp; Not worth my time and work.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good teaching tool, but it seems no one wants to learn much.&nbsp; I will continue to make the movies with comments, but not upload them.&nbsp; They are always great until uploaded to Motion Box.

I am also going to shorten the spiel at the beginning and just post the good stuff.

Sam


[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Total to Date
10.27.8,,,$4.50,,,$4.50
10.27,,,$0.50,,,$5.00
10.28.8,,,$16.50,,,$21.50
10.28.8.2,,,<$6>,,,$15.50
10.28.8.3,,,<8.50>,,,7
10.28.8.4,,,<$19.50>,,,<$12.50>
10.29.8,,,$15.50,,,$3.00
10.30.8.1,,,$25.5,,,$28.50
10.30.8.2,,,$36,,,$64.50
10.30.8.3,,,<$16>,,,$48.50
10.31.8.,,,$20.50,,,$69
11.1.8.1,,,<$37.50>,,,$31.50
11.1.8.2,,,$35.00,,,$66.50
11.1.8.3,,,<$10.00>,,,$56.50
Begin,,,betting,,,all xings
Rules,,,out the,,,window!
11.2.8.1,,,$15,,,$71.50
11.2.8.2,,,<$42.50>,,,$29.00
11.2.8.3,,,$44.00,,,$79.00
11.3.8.1,,,$24.50,,,$104
11.2.8.2,,,$50,,,$154
11.3.8.3,,,$22.50,,,$176.50
11.3.8.3,,,$36.50,,,$213.00
11.4.8.1,,,$15.50,,,$228.50
11.4.8.2,,,$8.50,,,$237
11.4.8.3,,,$40.50,,,$277.50
11.4.8.4,,,<$207>,,,$77.50
11.5.8.1,,,$149,,,$226.50
11.5.8.2,,,$80,,,$306.50
[/table]

I am certain someone somewhere sometime will accuse me of cheating/lying/whatever.&nbsp; I will always have the videos archived and can pull out my witness at a moment's notice.

If a person comes along who really wants to learn this, I'll proudly work with you.

And, yes, it's probably all luck!


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Good Recovery Sam will it hold up as you say time will tell

[madupz4]

People

I'm about through posting movies.&nbsp; Very, very few people view them at all.&nbsp; Not worth my time and work.&nbsp; I thought it would be a good teaching tool, but it seems no one wants to learn much.&nbsp; I will continue to make the movies with comments, but not upload them.&nbsp; They are always great until uploaded to Motion Box.

I am also going to shorten the spiel at the beginning and just post the good stuff.

Sam


[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Total to Date
10.27.8,,,$4.50,,,$4.50
10.27,,,$0.50,,,$5.00
10.28.8,,,$16.50,,,$21.50
10.28.8.2,,,<$6>,,,$15.50
10.28.8.3,,,<8.50>,,,7
10.28.8.4,,,<$19.50>,,,<$12.50>
10.29.8,,,$15.50,,,$3.00
10.30.8.1,,,$25.5,,,$28.50
10.30.8.2,,,$36,,,$64.50
10.30.8.3,,,<$16>,,,$48.50
10.31.8.,,,$20.50,,,$69
11.1.8.1,,,<$37.50>,,,$31.50
11.1.8.2,,,$35.00,,,$66.50
11.1.8.3,,,<$10.00>,,,$56.50
Begin,,,betting,,,all xings
Rules,,,out the,,,window!
11.2.8.1,,,$15,,,$71.50
11.2.8.2,,,<$42.50>,,,$29.00
11.2.8.3,,,$44.00,,,$79.00
11.3.8.1,,,$24.50,,,$104
11.2.8.2,,,$50,,,$154
11.3.8.3,,,$22.50,,,$176.50
11.3.8.3,,,$36.50,,,$213.00
11.4.8.1,,,$15.50,,,$228.50
11.4.8.2,,,$8.50,,,$237
11.4.8.3,,,$40.50,,,$277.50
11.4.8.4,,,<$207>,,,$77.50
11.5.8.1,,,$149,,,$226.50
11.5.8.2,,,$80,,,$306.50
[/table]

I am certain someone somewhere sometime will accuse me of cheating/lying/whatever.&nbsp; I will always have the videos archived and can pull out my witness at a moment's notice.

If a person comes along who really wants to learn this, I'll proudly work with you.

And, yes, it's probably all luck!


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TCS,

After looking at your testing results I see that before 11.1.8.2. your biggest wins were no more than +35 but then after 11.2.8.3. you had several large wins of 44, 50, 80 and 149!  What did you do differently that made you have bigger wins?  Did you increase your unit bet from .50 to 1.00?

[TwoCatSam]

I increased by bet on 11.4.8.4.  That was when I lost the $207. 

Somedays you win more than others; just the nature of the beast.

Sam

[kompressor]

GOOD WORK SAM....QUESTION: ALL RECOVERY WAS MADE WITH FLAT BET...DO YOU STILL THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA TO DOUBLE BET AFTER 50 UNITS DRAWDOWN ?

[TwoCatSam]

Kompressor

Yes, I do, just don't have the nerve to do it.

Sam

[table=,]
Date,,,W/L,,,Total to Date
10.27.8,,,$4.50,,,$4.50
10.27,,,$0.50,,,$5.00
10.28.8,,,$16.50,,,$21.50
10.28.8.2,,,<$6>,,,$15.50
10.28.8.3,,,<8.50>,,,7
10.28.8.4,,,<$19.50>,,,<$12.50>
10.29.8,,,$15.50,,,$3.00
10.30.8.1,,,$25.5,,,$28.50
10.30.8.2,,,$36,,,$64.50
10.30.8.3,,,<$16>,,,$48.50
10.31.8.,,,$20.50,,,$69
11.1.8.1,,,<$37.50>,,,$31.50
11.1.8.2,,,$35.00,,,$66.50
11.1.8.3,,,<$10.00>,,,$56.50
Begin,,,betting,,,all xings
Rules,,,out the,,,window!
11.2.8.1,,,$15,,,$71.50
11.2.8.2,,,<$42.50>,,,$29.00
11.2.8.3,,,$44.00,,,$79.00
11.3.8.1,,,$24.50,,,$104
11.2.8.2,,,$50,,,$154
11.3.8.3,,,$22.50,,,$176.50
11.3.8.3,,,$36.50,,,$213.00
11.4.8.1,,,$15.50,,,$228.50
11.4.8.2,,,$8.50,,,$237
11.4.8.3,,,$40.50,,,$277.50
11.4.8.4,,,<$207>,,,$77.50
11.5.8.1,,,$149,,,$226.50
11.5.8.2,,,$80,,,$306.50
11.5.8.3,,,$42,,,$348.50
[/table]

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[TwoCatSam]

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