## Q & A about the G.U.T. and TwoCat's Last Test.

Started by TwoCatSam, November 09, 2008, 08:50:46 PM

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#### TwoCatSam

winkel

Thank you.  I will do the writing and the notation about units.

Sam

#### kompressor

any development ??

#### TwoCatSam

kompressor

We are having our home remodeled.  New hardwood floors and carpet.  Terrible mess.  I cannot play roulette.

I'll be back.

Sam

#### TwoCatSam

Here is one of two things I have learned about playing the G.U.T.  I know this goes against winkel's teachings, but it works for me.  Here's the chart:

[table=,]
0,,,1,,,>1
11,,,16,,,10
10,,,17,,,10
10,,,16,,,11
[/table]

OK, the first bet is the 0 vs >1 crossing, but is is 11 vs 10--what I used to call the "winkel non-crossing crossing".  I bet on the 11 numbers in the zero column.  I win and the bet is now 0 vs >1 and is 10 vs 10--a true crossing.  BUT..since I just hit the zero column I do NOT bet it twice in a row.  I put my money on the 17 numbers in the 1 column.  I get a hit and the 0 vs >1 crossing wins since the 0 vs >1 is gone forever in this trot.  Zero can never increase; the greater-thans always increase.

I call this the "TwoCat Bassackward Crossing"

I know it's not right, not Kosher, not proper in the etiquette books, but it works.

I got another one but I don't want to get you too excited all at once.

Sam

#### kompressor

you still play with the v4 tracker or the new gutcba of kon-fu ??

#### winkel

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 15, 2009, 03:44:54 PM
I know this goes against winkel's teachings, but it works for me.  Here's the chart:

I know it's not right, not Kosher, not proper in the etiquette books, but it works.

I got another one but I don't want to get you too excited all at once.

Sam

Hi TCS,

it is not against my teachings it is only against the basic rules.
I always said: bet every crossing and watch what is going on. I was punished for that. But you did ist and now you are able to harvest.
You are actually the second who expresses, that he learns to decide.
If you go on this way you will see a lot of logical decisions that lead you to follow and to bet a crossing or not to bet.

I will give you another hint:
you know these horrible crossings 13 12 12; 12 13 12; 12 13 13
there is also an easy way to get through withourt losing every bet.

[highlight]@kompressor[/highlight]

The GUTCBA is only for learning and testing not for playing. The tracker4 is the ultimate tool.

br
winkel

#### kompressor

whats your total gain (units) since you've started playing gut sam ??

2000 units

#### winkel

Quote from: kompressor on January 15, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
whats your total gain (units) since you've started playing gut sam ??

2000 units

I don´t understand this kind of question.

What does tell you a figure of 7 000 000
or a figure of 20?
(despite of that you can read the exact number in his testing-posts)

a holy grail won´t win many units very fast. It only can win constantly more than it loses and it will win more than sigma+3 over the longest betting period.
And it recovers its losses slow but constantly.

pls ask more precisely what you wanna know.
If you want win fast and much, then play EvenChances with Martingale and its chance of total loss.

br
winkel

#### kompressor

Quote from: Winkel on January 15, 2009, 08:34:54 PM
I don´t understand this kind of question.

What does tell you a figure of 7 000 000
or a figure of 20?
(despite of that you can read the exact number in his testing-posts)

a holy grail won´t win many units very fast. It only can win constantly more than it loses and it will win more than sigma+3 over the longest betting period.
And it recovers its losses slow but constantly.

pls ask more precisely what you wanna know.
If you want win fast and much, then play EvenChances with Martingale and its chance of total loss.

br
winkel

#### Herb

Winkel,

Why did you answer him like that?  His question was quite direct and to the point.

Kompressor,

Your question was lucid, well thought out, and to the point.  I think it's a translation error in the languages.

When I play, I know what to expect in terms of units won per spin.

Regarding a system that's a "Holygrail":   Again, you would be able to determine how many units are won per spin on average and could easily calculate the average approx. edge of the method.

If you haven't kept track of the results on paper, or a computer, then you won't have any idea as to the long term results.

Regarding the slow to recover part:  When you have the edge in roulette, it doesn't neccessarily take a long time or a short time for it to recover.  It just does.  Normal random fluctuations are part of the game, even when you have the edge.  The size of your edge will partially dictate how large the normal downward fluctuations will be at the time.

Best of Luck and Cheers!

-Herb

#### kompressor

first of all i'm in plus with the GUT...i've made real cash....but not extensively due to my little problems....i'm paying two mortgages since the past 6 months....long story...i just wait to sell the old one to run to the casino
....but due to the economical market those days i'm losing almost 20 000\$ of the original selling price

winkel... i do believe in the GUT....it just make me more happy to see you angry trying to defend your HG...my pockets like it

he start over his testing a few times...despite of some changes in his way of playing....basicly he was playing the GUT all the time....from what i've read he's still learning and playing new crossing those days so i dont know why we shouldnt take the past tests gain in consideration

#### See_Jerek

Quote from: TwoCatSam on January 07, 2009, 04:11:55 PM
kompressor

We are having our home remodeled.  New hardwood floors and carpet.  Terrible mess.  I cannot play roulette.

I'll be back.

Sam

seems that you have made enough money for your wife's new floor with the gut sam,keep it up

#### TwoCatSam

I have been trying to answer this for 3 days, but couldn't log on.  Here was the answer:

kompressor

I am using the Track4 only.  I find it easy to read and work with.  A bang-up job by droidman!    to d-man.  Since I've been playing the G.U.T I am up around \$1500 or so.  I went off on another system (Gamlet) and I got so excited I forgot to record who what winning what.

If you consider the winning bets vs the loosing bets, I loose more than I win, but some wins are with only ten numbers bet, so that pays a net of 25 units.  As winkel said, these make up for the losers.  I have maintained all along it is not how much money you actually win, it's the percentage of your bankroll that counts.  I started with \$200 making fifty-cent bets.  At \$400 I went to \$1 bets and now I'm at \$1042, which is still down by my \$1360 high, but I'm battling back to that figure.  That's a lot of winning bets.  Figure it with \$10 per number!!

winkel

I'd love to know about the 12 13 12 crossing.  Please tell me.

Sam

#### The Spiders Kiss

Winkel
I would like to know too please tell me
TSK

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