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#### VLSroulette

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 02:24:24 PM
Lets say we WIN on the LAST bet in our line. What do you think about starting over, from the beginning?

I'd rather add steps until hitting the very table maximum to the point it is impossible to add any more chips. I'd use the 1-18/19-36 location to "Fake table limits" as outlined here:

If you wonder how to add steps to the guetting line, look at the point where it iterates x 10:

2 2 3 3 4 4 6 6 8 8 12 12 16 16 20 20 30 30 40 40

As they keep the same proportion, only multipled by 10, you can obtain the next steps like:

2 2 3 3 4 4 6 6 8 8 12 12 16 16 20 20 30 30 40 40 60 60 80 80 120 120 160 160 200 200 300 300 400 400 .... and you get how it iterates.

Of course, make yourself it is wise to leave when you have money at your pockets, never to allow the "evening out" of the winning bets to get your balance back in full.

With positive progressions aiming to "win big" the moment to stop is the point where you can't physically rise the bet anymore, of course. Think like when you limit positive progressions you are limiting casino's

You wouldn't like to go off the table and then see a streak of 34 low numbers completed

NEVER LIMIT WINNINGS, LIMIT LOSSES.

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Victor

#### VLSroulette

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 02:26:14 PM
Of course, some grinders do use positive progressions to create "violent upward spikes" in the balance with the only aim to make up the needed rising for losses with casino's money, for which the moment to limit winnigs is where you made the drawdown back, and you even cut the numbers to fit last bet. i.e. you are -15 from reaching break even point, and next step of positive progression is 30, you cut it to 15, as in this case the goal is not to "break the bank", but to break even.

Victor

#### Mr J

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
Thanks for the info Victor, much appreciated!   Ken

#### bombus

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 07:44:36 PM

Should we carry our position in this progression over to the next session or start anew?

#### Mr J

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 08:24:42 PM
I like Victors version of the rules but I do have another question..... Lets say we have a string of losses. Say we lost on the first 12 bet and after that, we had 5 losses in a ROW. It would look like this? (from right to left) >> 2..3..4..6..8

#### Nathan Detroit

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 09:01:35 PM
Ken

I nreply to your question . At the beginning of your session establish a  loss limit.Even if you lose  5 times in a row and you are still ahead you might continue the session.

Don`t switch to any other system .  Loss of discipline  is  your worst enemy.

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!

P.S. I do establish a loss limit of  25-30 % of the required mandatory bankroll and exit after 3 losses in a row. However ,if I  have  already EXCEEDED my win goal I shall terminate the session after  1 loss.

#### Mr J

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##### Re: The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 09:36:04 PM
My loss stop is a bit different. I stop when every last dime is out of my pocket and I have no gas money for the car. I'm half joking and half serious. I'll be honest. My STOPS rarely have anything to do with wins or loses. Its all based on the clock. I leave/quit when I need to be somewhere. Bad way of doing it? Maybe. I made a good point over at LTW. If we get a string of loses, whats the big deal, our bets go down and down. A nice winning streak? Cool, our bets go up and up! This progression looks good on paper.   Ken

#### bombus

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 11:14:01 PM
This progression can work well, but a wwLwwLwwLwwL sequence will work against you.

#### VLSroulette

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
May 23, 2009, 11:32:12 PM

#### Spike

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
May 24, 2009, 05:54:01 AM
Loss of discipline  is  your worst enemy.>>

I agree with Nathan. 'Plan the play and play the plan' is your goal. Switching boats in midstream is usually a bad idea, and its the downfall of a lot of players. 90% of your work is done outside the casino. Just like an athlete who trains for an event, he does 98% of the work in training and 2% in the actual event.

#### Mr J

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
May 24, 2009, 05:54:58 AM
Thanks for correcting it Victor. Not a big deal buddy!    Ken

#### ChickenDinner

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
July 18, 2009, 03:17:01 PM
This works great betting the penultimate colour (or other ECs). I love it!

You start on 2 units, but the way I play is to move down to 1 unit after a loss at the 2 2 stage. After a win on 1 unit, I move back up to the 2 2 betting stage, and the guetting then continues as normal. I only bet 1 EC at a time (usually colours). A safe, easy, fun and often very profitable system for the patient player. It incorporates great money management and dispersion surfing methods that increases the bets when you're riding a succession of hits, and bets the very minimum when fighting against the dispersions =

A great great way to play!

Cheers
CD

#### Allin

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
July 19, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
Hi Guys,

I tried testing this system, Good thing is its not making lose your entire bankroll, Just keep you in the game for long run.

Below are the test results (Tested based on H/L bets)

Test 1 :   10K spins Final Balance  -412
Test 2 :   10K spins Final Balance  -438
Test 3 :   10K spins Final Balance  -656

Basically with this sytem, you don't broke, you cannot win as well.

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#### ChickenDinner

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
July 19, 2009, 01:13:27 PM
Hi Allin,

What was your bet selection method on the H/L?

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#### Allin

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##### Re: [GRINDING TWEAK ON...] The Guetting Progression
July 20, 2009, 12:15:03 PM
Hi Brother,

I played 48% advantage.  I cannot test any system (for Evens)more than this advantage, otherwise thats not called testing.

Regards