The “ATILA” Money Management.

[gizmotron]

djroulette - "The way I have been playing is lookin at the last nine numbers hit on the marquee then using those to bet. anybody else ever tried playing like this and found sucess? "

I've done it that way too. It doesn't work because it takes several spins between hits. Too many in fact. I've discovered that seldom do the hottest numbers hit within 10 or less spins of the last time that they hit.

Which makes me think of an idea...

What if you select three hot numbers to bet and wait five spins before betting them individually after they hit. What about waiting ten spins?

I love all the ideas floating around here. There sure are a lot of active thinkers.

[djroulette]

Hey

Mattymattz- i have been selecting the nine numbers and then waiting or a hit. Then il look at a new set of nine and keep repeating the same.

Gizmo- i like the idea of wating a few spins before commencing the betting. i am thinking of maybe selecting the nine numbers then waiting for 5 spins and if no hit commence betting.

what you guys think?

Dj

[takeshiro]

Hello readers,

I made a deposit on Eurogrand casino and I played this method both on the RNG and on the Live roulette following Victor instructions.
It works for the moment, but I have to say, the RNG seems more fair for this method that the Live roulette at the moment and it is more fast.
I wait for a sector of 9 numbers unhited since 12 spins and I begin to bet in it. If I do not find this condition after a long moment I reduce the sector unhited to 10 spins or 8 spins.

I hope online casinos pay back French players.

[Portsa]

I'm thinking that everyone who has ever gambled has been in this situation....

I've been practicing the Atila system for a while & I took the plunge last month & tried it out at my local casino.
I did very well, up 100 units in half an hours play & not going past a 3 unit bet. I've been waiting for 9 numbers adjacent on the wheel not to show for 8 spins before I start betting.

Then two weeks ago I had a long weekend at Sun City (casino resort) I played 8 sessions at an average of 30 to 40 spins each, & again 100 units up each time.

So last Sat**day I'm full of confidence & with a large bankroll I'm back at my local casino (you can see what's coming) now I've checked my records & all I need is a 200 unit win & I will have wiped out my accumulated loss for the year- what can go wrong?

I've got a 1000 unit BR & as I walk in I take the last seat on the table, within 20 minutes I'm up 180 units – just another win & I'm even for the year & I'm going home.

So 26-0-32-15-19-4-21-2-25 haven't appeared for 8 spins & I start betting 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 after a while no luck, but I'm still confidant I think the longer it stays away the more it must come back, soon I'm 180 units down & I'm worried.
After more than 25 spins, it seems that the ball is landing 180° out from my sector all the time, finally after 28 spins number 21 comes up. A quick calculation shows that I need to up my bets threefold to recover, but that will be over the table limit so I play the table limit on all nine numbers & I try & increase my bets by adding chips to the 0-2 split & the 19-20-21 street – I know this bets on numbers out of my area but I desperate to recover my losses.

The 26-25 segment stays away for another 12 spins (1 hit in 40 spins) & I'm out of options & my 1000 bankroll is gone – as I walk away I hear the next spin & '17 black' is called out by the croupier.

I suppose the obvious needs to be stated – stick to a loss limit & walk away.

[gizmotron]

I'm thinking that everyone who has ever gambled has been in this situation....

...The 26-25 segment stays away for another 12 spins (1 hit in 40 spins) & I'm out of options & my 1000 bankroll is gone – as I walk away I hear the next spin & '17 black' is called out by the croupier.

I suppose the obvious needs to be stated – stick to a loss limit & walk away.

Wrong. Why do you expect a system to work just because you walked up to a table? Timing is everything. You need to test as you go and learn what it means when you recognize that your system is working at this moment. At least you should check to see if your system is in free fall before jumping on. It's not having a loss limit. You had one. It was your 1000 bankroll.

Now if you don't agree that someone listening to your comments is being too harsh in saying "wrong" then go ahead a get others here to hold your hand and tell you that your feelings are far more important here on this forum than your money is to you in your wallet. This is a teachable moment and not a time to woose out on political correctness.

[ross_lawuk]

Has anybody tried using the Atila progression with a John Solitude method?

I've had good initial results betting on 9 number sectors after they have only hit once in 17 spins (using Roulette Xtreme)

First session results:
using Sam's WJL Casino spins (9-2-8 P1 )
(91 spins)
£187 profit
Lowest: £-141

Any thoughts?
Ross

[cps10]

Ross,

17 spins? Wow. You could be waiting all day for something like that. That's good that you are winning though. I am surprised that you had only 91 spins to get that win. Congratulations!!

[ross_lawuk]

CPS

It comes up more often than you'd think. I suppose this kinda makes sense as there are 37 9-number sectors.
Further testing hasn't been as promising as that first session (isn't that always the way).
However, my thinking is that if a certain section has 'slept' for 17 spins, it's more likely to come up in subsequent spins. Either way using Atila with a 'John Solitude' way of playing seems to have legs.

Ross

[TwoCatSam]

I'm thinking that everyone who has ever gambled has been in this situation....

I've been practicing the Atila system for a while & I took the plunge last month & tried it out at my local casino.
I did very well, up 100 units in half an hours play & not going past a 3 unit bet. I've been waiting for 9 numbers adjacent on the wheel not to show for 8 spins before I start betting.

Then two weeks ago I had a long weekend at Sun City (casino resort) I played 8 sessions at an average of 30 to 40 spins each, & again 100 units up each time.

So last Sat**day I'm full of confidence & with a large bankroll I'm back at my local casino (you can see what's coming) now I've checked my records & all I need is a 200 unit win & I will have wiped out my accumulated loss for the year- what can go wrong?

I've got a 1000 unit BR & as I walk in I take the last seat on the table, within 20 minutes I'm up 180 units – just another win & I'm even for the year & I'm going home.

So 26-0-32-15-19-4-21-2-25 haven't appeared for 8 spins & I start betting 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 after a while no luck, but I'm still confidant I think the longer it stays away the more it must come back, soon I'm 180 units down & I'm worried.
After more than 25 spins, it seems that the ball is landing 180° out from my sector all the time, finally after 28 spins number 21 comes up. A quick calculation shows that I need to up my bets threefold to recover, but that will be over the table limit so I play the table limit on all nine numbers & I try & increase my bets by adding chips to the 0-2 split & the 19-20-21 street – I know this bets on numbers out of my area but I desperate to recover my losses.

The 26-25 segment stays away for another 12 spins (1 hit in 40 spins) & I'm out of options & my 1000 bankroll is gone – as I walk away I hear the next spin & '17 black' is called out by the croupier.

I suppose the obvious needs to be stated – stick to a loss limit & walk away.

Portsa

This is a serious question.  Perhaps I simply cant find it, but where did you bet on the 17?  If you did not bet on the 17, why would the dealer calling it out prick your ears? 

Can anyone find where he bet on the 17?  Help the Cat out of the bag!!

Sam

[cps10]

CPS

It comes up more often than you'd think. I suppose this kinda makes sense as there are 37 9-number sectors.
Further testing hasn't been as promising as that first session (isn't that always the way).
However, my thinking is that if a certain section has 'slept' for 17 spins, it's more likely to come up in subsequent spins. Either way using Atila with a 'John Solitude' way of playing seems to have legs.

Ross

I would tend to agree with you there, Ross. I think that the 37 sectors idea is a good way of doing it, along with applying the ATILA.

[purple]

I know the feeling. Its as if someone whispers in your ear: "you've outstayed your welcome! No matter what you do you will lose!"
I always get out before that happens.

[TwoCatSam]

Quote from Portsa:


So 26-0-32-15-19-4-21-2-25 haven't appeared for 8 spins & I start betting 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 after a while no luck, but I'm still confidant I think the longer it stays away the more it must come back, soon I'm 180 units down & I'm worried.
After more than 25 spins, it seems that the ball is landing 180° out from my sector all the time, finally after 28 spins number 21 comes up. A quick calculation shows that I need to up my bets threefold to recover, but that will be over the table limit so I play the table limit on all nine numbers & I try & increase my bets by adding chips to the 0-2 split & the 19-20-21 street – I know this bets on numbers out of my area but I desperate to recover my losses.

Portsa

I have colored red the numbers you say you were betting.  Am I wrong?  Where is the 17?

You say as you were walking away you head "17black" called out.  I'm asking why you would write that?  What did 17 have to do with your scheme or loosing?

Sam

[Portsa]

Apologies - I should have said '15 black'.

[purple]

Hi Portsa,
It is easy to talk about these things in hindsight but maybe there is a lesson here for al of us.
For 9 numbers not to come up in 27 spins the odds for single zero wheel are:  (29/37)^27= 0.139% you had 99.86% chance of hitting one of the nine numbers.
Maybe your mistake was that you didn't recover all of your losses when you won on that 28th spin when 21 hit. In other words your progression was not good.
In any case you were desperately unlucky not to win. My condolences.
What if instead of playing sleepers you also played a few hot numbers and instead of playing straight up numbers you played lines or quads. That would have been easier on the bankroll.
Also always look for symptoms of dealer signature. If as you say the dealer kept hitting 180 degrees away you could have targeted that hot wheel sector.
I  always advise myself and others to play for small  winnings setting very small win targets and stop losses. Psychologically it is easier too. I bet you were a nervous wreck during and after play. Not good for your health.
You are not the first nor the last to make such mistakes. We all have to learn the hard way!

[purple]

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