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##### "Square Champ"
January 05, 2009, 05:36:00 AM
Here's a system that merges Murph's Square System and a new tool called "Roulette Champ" (see roulette framework-"Roulette Champ", the link is in the thread)

Here's how it works.
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When you get to the website info, as a new dealer begins rolling the pill, record into the "Champ" the spin values starting from the bottom, going up until you have your 10 spins.

The "Champ" software will give you a 12 number spread.
---------------->You're only interested in one of the numbers--the "betting point".

////Play on paper, when you get a "paper hit" on a "betting point" quad, bet (\$) the following for 2 spins, flat betting////

At this time, look at Murph's betting chart below.

If the "betting point" is ---

1,10,19,28----play quads: 1,2,4,5   10,11,13,14   19,20,22,23   28,29,31,32

2,11,20,29----play quads: 2,3,5,6   11,12,14,15   20,21,23,24   29,30,32,33

3,12,21,30----play quads: 2,3,5,6,  11,12,14,15   20,21,23,24   29,30,32,33

4,13,22,31----play quads: 1,2,4,5,  10,11,13,14   19,20,22,23   28,29,31,32

5,14,23,32----play quads: 4,5,7,8,  13,14,16,17   22,23,25,26   31,32,34,35

6,15,24,33----play quads: 5,6,8,9,  14,15,17,18   23,24,26,27   32,33,35,36

7,16,25,34----play quads: 4,5,7,8,  13,14,16,17   22,23,25,26   31,32,34,35

9,18,27,36----play quads: 5,6,8,9,  14,15,17,18   23,24,26,27   32,33,35,36

(If 0, 8, 17, 26, or 35)----*Don't play*

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Restart "Roulette Champ" spins with dealer change and wait for new "paper hit".

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Test #1: Dublinbet Live Wheel #2: January 6,2009: 12:24 am: Starting BR=\$1000: Playing with 0.50 chips

Entered 10 spin values into Roulette Champ website tool, European Wheel
(I wished I could use a video to show how I enter the numbers into the online software)

BP="Betting Point"--When you enter the 10 numbers, RouletteChamp gives you a 12 number spread with a "betting point in the middle"--again, without a picture of the software....Below are the results.)

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BP=18 (Paper play)
The four quads for the next roll are: 5,6,8,9   14,15,17,18   23,24,26,27   32,33,35,36
#10 (x)--enter this number into RouletteChamp

BP=23 (Paper play--bet \$ when "paper hit")
The four quads for the next roll are: 4,5,7,8   13,14,16,17   22,23,25,26   31,32,34,35
#26 (win)--entered into RouletteChamp---**time to bet \$ for up to 2 spins**

BP=6  (\$ play)
The four quads for the next roll are: 4,5,7,8   13,14,16,17   22,23,25,26   31,32,34,35
#14 (win)\$-----back to "paper play"

BP=0 (no bet, wait for next spun number)

BP=2 (Paper play--bet \$ when "paper hit")
The four quads for the next roll are: 2,3,5,6   11,12,14,15   20,21,23,24   29,30,32,33
#35 (x)-entered into RouletteChamp

S
--Time passes with 3 paper misses--
S

BP=13 (Paper play)
The four quads for the next roll are: 1,2,4,5    10,11,13,14   19,20,22,23   28,29,31,32
#11 (win)-entered into RouletteChamp---* "Paper hit" time to bet \$----

BP=9 (\$ play)
The four quads for the next roll are: 5,6,8,9    14,15,17,18   23,24,26,27   32,33,35,36
#5 (win)---End session

Ending bankroll=\$1005.00

#### VLSroulette

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 05, 2009, 09:15:25 AM
Thanks for sharing dear Proof.

I noticed the champ is server-based.
Has the algorithm behind the "Champ" being discused anywhere on the internet so we can have a look?

Curious here!

Best regards.

#### hermes

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 12:01:07 AM
Does server-based means that the system could be used only at special online casino? Or what?
Proof, you even cannot make a small example of play if you depend on software results? Probably not.
Hermes
"Success is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" "Winning is believing" "Duplicate success, not mistakes"

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 12:43:04 PM
Does server-based means that the system could be used only at special online casino? Or what?
Proof, you even cannot make a small example of play if you depend on software results? Probably not.
Hermes

@ Hermes: Server based.  It plays like roulette software (i.e.Roulette Sniper) that appears in a window.  There is a few seconds lag in the response time when you enter in numbers, but it can be used at any live wheel casino site.

@ Victor: There isn't any information on Roulette Champ other than what's on the website.  The owners say they paid \$90,000 for the idea and rights to the software.
Algorithms: all the site claims is it measures the average of spaces in the 10 spins you provide.

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 02:25:05 PM
Then it could be detected by the casino's software, couldn't be?
Hermes
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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 02:51:29 PM
No, although funny, when I've been playing live wheel at Riverbelle with Roulette Champ recently, I lost the connection with Riverbelle several times.

#### Handsome1

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 03:36:31 PM
Is that netpage roulette champ working right or is just an example? I am wondering, if it is working right why you need to buy it?

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 03:40:55 PM
Is that netpage roulette champ working right or is just an example? I am wondering, if it is working right why you need to buy it?

The only reasons I can think of is of you don't have internet access or possibly you're in a casino that would allow such a tool, but yes the software use is free online, you don't have to buy the software.

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 06, 2009, 10:46:17 PM
You see Proof, they can disturb you and tell you that they know what you are doing, and they gonna stop you (but only if you are winning). What about if you are in the middle of 12 step progression? What about money back guarantee in that case? That's why I don't like the software launched to online casinos like "NeverGreenWinterRoulette". The software we use should be independent on second PC, not connected to Internet.  Nobody has to know what we are doing, not even our wives (they in first place). When we cannot feed the spin numbers by ourself, we shouldn't gamble, we should retire and go to Alzheimer house.
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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 12:30:06 AM
Proof...

Saw your wish.."(I wished I could use a video to show how I enter the numbers into the online software)"

Want me to take a whack at it with a few numbers from the Microgaming Starburst wheel?

The carpet layers are coming tomorrow and when they are busy, I should have an hour.

Sam

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 12:40:19 AM
Proof...

Saw your wish.."(I wished I could use a video to show how I enter the numbers into the online software)"

Want me to take a whack at it with a few numbers from the Microgaming Starburst wheel?

I would love it, TwoCat.  Thank you

#### Handsome1

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 01:38:01 PM
It is not working. I tested it yesterday and everything seemed fine in the first, but after that there were over 30 spins without hit. So this is also useless.

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 01:54:09 PM
30 spins without a hit?  Did you use the paper hit/miss part before betting money?

#### Handsome1

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 01:58:11 PM
I am not sure what you mean. I allways bet those 12 numbers what were on the right side (predictions). So I only used the roulette champ numbers...

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##### Re: "Square Champ"
January 07, 2009, 02:05:38 PM
I am not sure what you mean. I allways bet those 12 numbers what were on the right side (predictions).

Ok.  Square Champ only involves one number, the Betting Point. (You see the 12 numbers, but you only use the number in the center.

Take that number and match it with Murph's number chart in the first post on this thread.
In this system, you're always betting 16 numbers (4 x 4).

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