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Are there any records of the men who designed the American Roulette?

Started by Mr_Bee, January 11, 2009, 06:11:36 PM

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Mr_Bee

I would like more information regarding the designer of the American Roulette wheel. I can't find it anywhere online.

winkel

Mr Bee,

aren´t you the guy who wants to sell your knowledge for more than 100 bucks?

You want some informations from us for free?

Do you want a bang on your head? (Monty Pythone: I wanna buy a gramophone)

What is there to decipher on the american wheel?
start with Zero
opposite 00
go right 1
opposite 2
ad 12
go opposite next number
if you got two of the same kind ad 21
go opposite
and so on.

send me a cheque but I want 100 Euro not US-$

br
winkel

Gavioli

Quote from: Winkel on January 11, 2009, 07:04:15 PM

send me a cheque but I want 100 Euro not US-$


I will send you a check for 500€ if you explaine design for european wheel.

A.G.

winkel

Quote from: Gavioli on January 28, 2009, 06:02:02 PM
I will send you a check for 500€ if you explaine design for european wheel.

A.G.

It is written somewhere in the net, I wouldn´t charge for that.

br
winkel

Gavioli

Quote from: Winkel on January 28, 2009, 09:01:23 PM
It is written somewhere in the net, I wouldn´t charge for that.

br
winkel

Hello Winkel,

can you please explaine how it goes in numerical order, because i dont really see it. For the american is really easy, but for europen i dont see any order exept 333+333 and first sestina start with sum 111 and high B and low R on one side and vice versa on other. It would really help my study if you actualy know how numerical order goes.

Thanks for not charging :)

A.G.

Kon-Fu-Sed

Hi,

I don't know if it's published on the net but a guy named Stephen N. Hu showed one way at the "Joint Statistical Meetings" in San Francisco, California, Aug 8-12, 1993.

"3. The Solution to European Roulette
....
The making of European roulette is a little more sophisticated than that of American roulette. It preserves the idea of randomness better, but does not possess the beauty of symmetry. The procedure of making an European roulette, step by step, is as follows:
"

As I'm sure I will break some laws if I continue, I won't.

Anyway; later he writes "In the very first round we randomly select number 7 from the first row...."

"randomly"...?
I don't know how much of a true solution that is...
(That's why I said, above, that he showed "one way")

In any case, the paper is named "A Solution to Roulette" and was presented at the above mentioned meeting.
Maybe you can Google to find it?

Best regards,
Kon-Fu-Sed

Gavioli

Thanks for your answer Kon-Fu-Sed.

I cant find the paper from the guy you suggest, but i guess he dont know mathematical formula for numerical order either. I Know that numbers are inserted with time of rotations but I cant find the correct formula.

A.G.


Kingpin

You can try to read Kimo Li's book, "The european roulette book".
Here it is very well explained how they made it.

Best Regards
Kingpin

Gavioli

Quote from: Kingpin on January 29, 2009, 05:52:50 PM
You can try to read Kimo Li's book, "The european roulette book".
Here it is very well explained how they made it.

Best Regards
Kingpin

I read it before and he dont have that kind of information. It is more comlplicated if you want to find true numerical order in european roulette. In kimo books are only the stars=2 triangles which divide the wheel in 6 parts=pies. Wheel have 6 stars 12 triagles and it is divided at 26/32 and 5/10. Each half is worth it 333 exactly and first sestina=pie is worth exactly 111=26+3+35+12+28+7 and the wheel starts from number 26. But that are informations that I already know. There is hidden formula, because numbers are inserted with time of rotations. But the thing is that I cant find the correct formula.

Cheers

Kingpin

As i understood it, the way the numbers on the eouropean wheel are layed out, is based on the table-layout. Oppsed to the american whel where it's based on mathematical formula.

There are "arrowheads" and "boomerang" shapes, in the layout, which then were spread out on the wheel in a "random order". Example: high red numbers and low black numbers on right side (from 0) of the wheel.

Thats how i understood it from Kimo...


BR
Kingpin

Gavioli

Kingspin,

Im not looking for that. Im  looking for exact formula, to calculated how numbers goes from 1 to 2.3.4.5.6.7.9.... and so on. Im open to suggestions so I can use it my study of the wheel. That is the reason I asked.

Thanks for answer.

A.G.

MattyMattz

Quote from: Gavioli on January 29, 2009, 06:30:50 PM
Kingspin,

Im not looking for that. Im  looking for exact formula, to calculated how numbers goes from 1 to 2.3.4.5.6.7.9.... and so on. Im open to suggestions so I can use it my study of the wheel. That is the reason I asked.

Thanks for answer.

A.G.

Is there an answer... ? 

Gavioli

Quote from: MattyMattz on January 29, 2009, 06:35:56 PM
Is there an answer... ? 

Yes it an answer, but you must exluded zero, because it was add later, to get more profit to the casino.

A.G.

Kingpin

QuoteKingspin,

Im not looking for that. Im  looking for exact formula, to calculated how numbers goes from 1 to 2.3.4.5.6.7.9.... and so on. Im open to suggestions so I can use it my study of the wheel. That is the reason I asked.

Thanks for answer.

A.G.

You're welcome  ;)

Sorry i could'nt help you out mate.

What is this about a hidden/secret formula?
Is it related to Numeris?

BR
Kingpin

Kingpin

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