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My dealer friend's bet selection

Started by VLSroulette, February 01, 2009, 02:45:25 AM

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VLSroulette

Tomorrow I have scheduled a session with dealer friend at local casino. He is having success lately by using this bet selection:

- Monitoring each dozen and column separately.
- After 3 consecutive landings on a dozen if it doesn't repeat, he enables it.
- He bets when it lands on enabled dozen/column that it WILL REPEAT. i.e. dozen 1 is enabled, when it lands on dozen 1, he bets on it to appear twice: D1+D1 combination.
- If there's a hit, the attack is over. If not, he allows for 2 more times (3 times total) before letting it go.

That's what he has shown profit with lately, though I've seen him break even too. He goes with 2000 units aiming for 25% or +500 units, but he plays an agressive progression (which I'm not fan of).

I'm positive he flat bets first 3 tries, but then he goes into a progressive line of bets.

This betting plan is selective, situational and doesn't get stuck with "it has to repeat".

I'll report back on how he does tomorrow. As for me, I'll be "grinding", 10% return and I'd be smiling  :thumbsup:

Cheers.

Hope this bet selection from my dealer friend adds to someone.
Victor

TwoCatSam

- After 3 consecutive landings on a dozen if it doesn't repeat, he enables it.

Victor

Could you put that in Okie Redneck for me?

Sam

wiggy

Hey TCS - I have the same question lol...

I think it means if it hits 3 times in a row (or more)... Hit = w
nolinksLLLw(now bet 3 times for a repeat hit)

If when betting we encountered LLL repeat the process again this time with a progression.

How'd I do Vic???

Does your friend hedge the Zero? that could be wise?

kompressor

wlwlwl  bet after the next w to be wlwlwlww (after 3 single hit bet that next hit will be a reapeat)

VLSroulette

On sunday I made a session with dealer friend. Of course, had to go to a different casino, not where he's been hired (for obvious reasons). I was +48 at some point, only 2 units left to win goal... and... drum rolls.. Back to break even. He made his 25% (500 over a 2000 bank) and I was still grinding :-[

He waited for me some more time, then as I was having a hard time going up, as soon as I got to initial bank point, we left. Total time from 6:45pm to ~10pm. Not bad to him. Breaking even for me could be taken as a loss of time, but as Lanky would say, even if not financially: it was a win, as it isn't how much you win but how much you don't lose what counts. (i.e. not losing = no units to worry recouping).




As to be completely clear with his bet selection, he explained to me each dozen and column is tracked independently:

D1
D2
D3

C1
C2
C3

He uses a series of shapes like tiny dots, triangles and squares as notation to denote enabled/disabled state, I'll simply use asterisk (*) = jump, | = repeat.

When it lands on a dozen and next spin "jumps" to any of the other 2, he marks a "jump" = *

If this shows 12, 24. Results in marking :

D1: *

Later on it falls again on dozen 1, say it comes 9, 33:

D1: * *

Then when Dozen 1 appears it Jump, i.e. 2 , 28:

D1: * * *

That's his signal to enable Dozen 1. Then he patiently waits for the moment when it comes dozen 1 again, he enters on it, and if it repeats (say Numbers: 7 , 12), he wins and marks a repeat:

D1: * * * |

Now Dozen 1 is disabled until three consecutive "jumps" ( * * * ) happen, and he spots them clearly on his tracking sheet.

Say it goes:

D1: * * * | * | * * | * * * <- this enabled Dozen 1 again. Wait patiently for it to show again. At times a dozen can dissapear for a while, precisely his enabled one. It happens.




Like I said he uses notations like dots, triangles and squares, but it could also be tracked via Lw

As for the money management, I know he flat bets first 3 "attacks", then he rises. He gave me a progressive line of bets, but I still don't know whole details. We aren't always wagering at the same wheel. I do not go for 00 wheels unless the casino I am at doesn't has any single 0 one, but he confirms he even likes 00 more! He says it is more comfortable to him as he's used to them (at his casino there are only 00 wheels, greedy management!). I explained him 00 adds more edge to the house.

LoL, talking about me explaining this, I said that about 00 to my friend Markus and he replied: "yes victor, but 00 doesn't come that often every time". I explained him about mathematical house edge, again, but nah.

Anyway, according to dealer friend, he believes numerical arrangement on the 00 wheel brings more disposition to repeating columns spun(?). That's a funny theory, we know it shouldn't matter, he claims that particularly of column 2. Of course, personally I dismissed it, but there might be something.

When observing single 0 vs 00's column 2 as he highlighted, we observe this:

Single [highlight]0[/highlight]



Versus [highlight]00[/highlight]



We all know in the long run numbers will match expected, but in the short run, I can picture a column 2 spree when dealer is stuck on that predominant side of the wheel. In the arc from 23 to 5.



Beliefs or timing... as long as someone wins, he is feeling being right.

Kind regards,
Victor

TwoCatSam

Victor

OK, almost clear.  One question.   Using your example:

D1: * * *


Let's assume it has gone...

D1
D3
D1
D2
D1-------Do we bet now for D1 to repeat
D3
D1------or now?

Is it "enabled" after the third singleton and we bet after the fourth singleton for a doubleton to occur?

If we loose, do we continue to bet for D1 or do we wait for another D1 and then bet for the doubleton?

This is a very interesting methodology and very close to one I use from time to time.

Sam






ikarianman

but its very difficult for this to happen..i mean i spin 1 by 1 100 spins on roulette extreme waiting for 3 jumps and still didnt came... :(

Neuro

Hi ikarianman ,
You can post the rx code of the system ?
thanks

TwoCatSam

There are six times this can happen:  3 Dozens and 3 Columns.  Hard to imagine that tracking all six you would not find a few occasions where a dozen or column was a singleton four times in a row.

I have a trot of 150 real-wheel spins lying in the pile before me.

Let me look.......

Sam

ikarianman

hi neuro!i dont know how to make code,i did it qith eye and hand,but twocatSam can do it as i see:)good

TwoCatSam

Guys

I just did a short run through about 30 numbers and found five instances where you had a dozen or column be a singleton four times.  I'm assuming you can have any number of hits between the singleton:

D1...........This is your first one.
D2
D1.....Second....
D2
D3
D3
D2
D1...........THIRD
D3
D2
D3
D1........TRIGGER.........

Now, if i understand it right, you begin betting for back-to-back D1s now.

This begs for an XL sheet to keep things orderly.

Sam

ikarianman

ok Sam,i thought it had to be like that(consecutive )
example
D1
D2
D1
D3
D1
D2
AND NOW BET ON D1,with what i understood is very difficult to find this pattern but as you did it is good

wiggy

I believe I understand this...
If only tracking Dozen 1 your tracking sheet shall only be marked on the spin after D1...
a repeat marks "|" and a singleton marks a "*"
D1,D1 = |
D1,(D2/D3) = *

This creates the stream of ***||****|*|*|*...
You will definately get the stream of 3 singletones to enable this system if tracking all 6 bets.

Again I ask... does hedging the zero come in handy using this? or just ignore it?

TwoCatSam

wiggy

Don't know about hedging zero.

I made an XL sheet to test this.  It can easily miss five in a row.  Usually hits on second or third.

Sam

WARRIOR

just my opinion why not hedge it with another dozen.

WARRIOR

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