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#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 03:46:45 AM

Experimenting and testing two different ways how patterns develops.

1) Patterns that develops from release position.
2) Patterns that develops among them self.

LS

#### Ulysses

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 10:02:44 AM
Triangulating
@LS

Slightly off topic, but you seem to know a thing or two about VB. I have read, exponential decay of the ball speed occurs when the rate at which the speed decreases in time is proportional to the current value of the ball speed, which could tell us which sector it should land (taking into account the cone angle), if it dodged the bumpers. The position it leaves the lip of the wheel to where it lands over the average of 20 dealer spins would be a good indicator. Could this be any use in forecasting in the casino?

Derren Brown claimed he was 'triangulating' using a reference point and time of wheel revolution and time of ball revolution, calculated in his head to forecast the sector. What do you think?

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 02:05:44 PM
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Triangulating
@LS

Slightly off topic, but you seem to know a thing or two about VB. I have read, exponential decay of the ball speed occurs when the rate at which the speed decreases in time is proportional to the current value of the ball speed, which could tell us which sector it should land (taking into account the cone angle), if it dodged the bumpers. The position it leaves the lip of the wheel to where it lands over the average of 20 dealer spins would be a good indicator. Could this be any use in forecasting in the casino?

Derren Brown claimed he was 'triangulating' using a reference point and time of wheel revolution and time of ball revolution, calculated in his head to forecast the sector. What do you think?

This is not about Triangulating, this is not about VB, this is an attempt to create an Dealer Signature with Bias Numbers or should I say attempt to become and Dealer Signature using Local Attractors.

The release is not random, as i grasp it the dealer does not release the ball from 1234 more like 33343324443222221.
The question is how this effects the distrubution of the Octacns when we different amounts of revoloutions 17 18 19 20 21 22 and the variation of the tilt.

This is what i know from some short testing.
12 sectors of three and the dealer will never release the ball from all of them, 8 or less will be the case.
Then you can look at the outcomes and find that a group of around 9 numbers, three sectors are dominant to the same degree as the release sectors.
Is this random results or does distance and some average amount of categories of revoloution create this correlation.
Then there is the tilt!

I just want to explore the idea and maybe it does not work with four Octans it maybe should be six or twelve, who knows.

LS

#### toby

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
@LS.
How would you take advantage of the next situation:

Same dealer, same ball speed, same rotor speed and direction.

Can I find any patern in the stream?

#### Ulysses

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
Then you can look at the outcomes and find that a group of around 9 numbers, three sectors are dominant to the same degree as the release sectors.
LS

I would say it is a good indicator of dealer bias rather than randomness. How would you bet is more to the point, that would need some monster planning?

Can you clear my understanding of the release point, just in case I am way off track. As I am interested in your tests but don't have a full grasp yet of all you are saying. Yes I am a bit of a dummy, but if I don't ask I won't know!

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 06, 2010, 07:05:49 PM

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 07, 2010, 05:26:24 AM
Lets

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 07, 2010, 05:54:31 AM
Brainstorming.

#### lucky_strike

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January 07, 2010, 06:10:51 AM
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#### lucky_strike

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January 07, 2010, 06:13:52 AM

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#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 08, 2010, 04:22:32 AM
I continue this at brainstorming section.

http://vlsroulette.com/brainstorming/signature/

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
January 08, 2010, 11:00:35 AM

I finaly find the signature and need testers now so send me an PM now and i give you the software to test with and in return i want your results.

Signature, distance with bias local attractors, 2 numbers bets.

My short test in around 200 trails gave me this results.

Won 714 Loss 368 Wagering 410 Toatal net gain +346

LS

#### RouletteRoy

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector-warning
January 31, 2010, 03:33:41 PM
Hi Guy,

Keep the sector flexible, different wheel should divided into different amount of wheel and different number per sector.
Further more, the sector will move during the game if you play more than 2 hours.

So be flexible, be alert of change coming. . .

Sector tracking need to accompany by money management, if 3 sector of 12 number, need to hit 1 in 3.
in case not hit the target sector, try to not loose 100% of the 1/3 (12 unit totally) sometime it it cheaper when total stake achieve economic of scale to save back some chip without total stake lose .

Only loose reduce bank role, and more than 80% of gambler stop when bank role finish.

#### Rheti

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
March 27, 2010, 01:51:25 PM
european wheel // Spin from Wiesbaden

day
1   Som van freq   Kolomlabels
Rijlabels   s1   s2   s3   s4   Eindtotaal
s1           32   18   23   18   91
s2           20   7   11   9   47
s3           17   11   15   14   57
s4           22   12   7   13   54
tot           91   48   56   54   249

#### Rheti

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##### Re: Tracking sector to sector
March 27, 2010, 01:54:10 PM
day
2   Som van freq   Kolomlabels
Rijlabels   s1   s2   s3   s4   Eindtotaal
s1            7   10   14   7   38
s2           10   10   16   11   47
s3           14   14   10   18   56
s4             8   13   15   13   49
39   47   55   49   190