Range MM from Stan K.

[Breeze88]

HI ALL


I just found this post on the internet and i thought i post it here so you all have something more to try and test 

Cheerz


To All Players - From Stan K

To All Players.

Just a few comments before I email a copy of this system to those who have asked for it.

This system was designed back in 1969 and eventually put on a Radio Shack computer that had no hard drive,

just a floppy disk. Then I transferred it to Windows 3,1using Word Perfect.

Then transferred to Windows 98 and this transfer distorted the order that it was originally written in.

The system and comments were 30 pages. I will try to send you a short form version.

But I do have a copy of the entire system that is printed.

Several years ago I was involved in selling systems for the purpose of contacting players and exchanging ideas.

I started my hobby designing systems when I was in the 8th grade in school back in 1938 teaching students

how to play dice for marbles and have enjoyed the challenge all of my life and at 78 I still enjoy it.

I have also spent thousands of dollars buying systems and recently sold my entire library of systems,

books and software and the reason is obvious.Now to the systems.

I sold with a guarantee and no player has ever asked for a refund. Because, as I claimed:

If you, the player didn't lose 21 bets more than you won PLAYING RANGE 21, you would win.

I am sure that many players did lose 21 bets more than they won, AND I HAVE, TOO.

I have yet to see a system THAT NEVER LOSES! and all the players on these gambling sites haven't either.

If they did, they wouldn't be on these sites. Except maybe to learn.

The beauty of this system is that if you have won more bets than you lost and could maintain it,

BY EVEN ONE BET, YOU CAN'T LOSE.

I will give you a short version below. The system is played in what I call ranges from range 6 to 61, if you want.

I will give you an example of range 11.

To play range 11 you write down the numbers from 1 through 21.

This means that if you never lose 11 bets more than you win, you can't lose.

But of course if you do lose 11 best more than you win you will break a bankroll which is adding bet #11 through 21,

which would be: 11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21 = -176 bankroll.

This of course means that you are betting 1 unit of $1,00.

RANGE 11
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20- 21

Your first bet is 11 if you WIN your next bet is 10. DOWN 1 UNIT ON WINS.
Your first bet is 11 if you LOSE your next bet is 12. UP 1 UNIT ON LOSES.

Now lets say your first bet of 11 won and your next bet of 10 lost.

THE RESULTS OF THIS IS THAT YOU WON 1 BET AND LOST 1 BET.

BUT YOU ARE +1 UNIT AHEAD! In other words as long as you stay in range, you will win 1 unit for every WIN/LOSS.

I usually play range 21. So I would have to lose 21 bets more than I won to keep from breaking a bankroll.

For example I will write some W= wins, L= losses.

Action: W L L W W L L W L W
Bet 11 10 11 12 11 10 11 12 11 12
+ or - +11 + 1 -10 + 2 +13 + 3 - 8 + 4 - 7 +5

You see that you made 10 bets. Won 5 and lost 5. BUT YOU ARE at +5

YOU CAN DO THE SAME AS ABOVE AND WRITE THE WINS AND LOSSES ANY WAY YOU WANT,

BUT HAVE 5 WINS AND 5 LOSSES AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE 5 UNITS PLUS.

Of course if you lose 6 and win 4, no problem because you can make up the loss

AS LONG AS YOU STAY IN RANGE AND NOT LOSE 11 BETS MORE THAN YOU WON.

Here is another simple example:

Action L L L L L W W W W W
Bet 11 12 13 14 15 16 15 14 13 12
+ or - -11 -23 -36 -50 -65 -49 -34 -20 - 7 +5
THIS MEANS THAT IF YOU MADE A 50 BETS IN ONE HOUR. LOST 25 BETS AND WON 25 BETS. YOU WOULD WIN $ 25.00 PER HOUR.

I HOPE YOU GET THE IDEA OF THE SYSTEM AND

AS LONG AS YOUR BETS ARE ON THE WINNING SIDE AND STAY AT BET 11 OR BELOW, YOU CAN'T LOSE.

There is more to this system, how you can increase your bets to win more, when you are winning.

But this is the basics of the system: TO WIN ONE UNIT FOR EVERY WIN/LOSS.

If you win 20 bets and lose 20 bets, YOU WIN 20 UNITS.

I usually play range 21. Which means numbers from 1 to 41 and the first bet is 21 or range 21.

So I would have to lose 21 bets more than I won to break a bankroll. But sometimes I could increase the high bet loss of

41 to 42 or 45 with my winnings. Lets say I won $100.00. With the winnings I could take a chance and bet 42 and 43.

Then if I won them or more, I could be back to my original range and if my luck holds up, I may return back to bet 21?

PS. This system wasn't found in a cracker jack box and I couldn't guess how many hours I spent on it.
It's FREE and if you use it and win, you may remember me at Xmas time, unless you lose 21 or 31 bets more than you won.

If anyone has and ideas to improve this system, be my guest. GOOD LUCK TO ALL.

Stan K

[Natural9]

I have seen that  MM somewhere before but not sure where thing is losing the 11 bets in a row it going to happen from time to time

[VLSroulette]

Hi Breeze,

Thanks for taking the time to share this Money Management Scheme with us at the board.

Your first bet is 11 if you WIN your next bet is 10. DOWN 1 UNIT ON WINS.
Your first bet is 11 if you LOSE your next bet is 12. UP 1 UNIT ON LOSES.

This particular one is historically referred to as the D'alembert and yes, it works when it works  .

Another money management I like for the even chances is the Guetting Progression. Nice to keep some units when you are up and the bad streak gets to you; it can keep you in game for quite a while.

At some point I have merged this D'alembert (same as Stan K's) money management scheme and it held on its feet for long session of grinding.

D'alembert isn't a bad system, but you need to have a good strike rate which doesn't deviates from the norm.

Perhaps people who mastered the game "A la Spike" can benefit the most from this plan.

Quoting Spike: "The best way to describe the difference is, the RNG had steep hills and valleys and a real wheel has gentle slopes."

If you can find a methodology which makes you hover around balance (break even) and deviations are gentle slopes, then you can absolutely make a killing with this money management scheme dear Breeze.

Best regards,
Victor

[Natural9]

Hi Breeze,

Thanks for taking the time to share this Money Management Scheme with us at the board.

This system is called the D'alembert and yes, it works when it works  .

Another pretty money management I like for the even chances is the Guetting Progression. Nice to keep some units and can keep you in game for quite a while.

At some point I have merged this D'alembert (same as Stan K's) money management scheme and it held on its feet for long session of grinding.

D'alembert isn't a bad system, but you need to have a good strike rate which doesn't deviates from the norm.

Perhaps people who mastered the game "A la Spike" can benefit the most from this plan.

Quoting Spike: "The best way to describe the difference is, the RNG had steep hills and valleys and a real wheel has gentle slopes."

If you can find a methodology which makes you hover around balance (break even) and deviations are gentle slopes, then you can absolutely make a killing with this money management scheme.

Best regards,
Victor

Victor I think if you could get a bet selction that hover around 50/50 and  never deviates far from it you would make a killing with just about any MM specially the matingale or Grand martingale
Even if there was no Zero the standard deviation would kill just about any bankroll

Regards rodney

[VLSroulette]

You are right Rodney, thing with the Martingale is the limit is fixed, by "cheating" the D'alembert you can actually surf the alternating winning and losing cycles a bit better...

You can find Cheating D'alembert version here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/vls-cheating-dalembert/

Also the Guetting Progression can be found here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/the-guetting-progression/

Best regards.
Victor

[Breeze88]

HI All

@Vic and Natural9


Yes this system has the same characteristics like d alambert and so on..


i startet a test and look how this four MM´s differ from each one and here are the results , i think this is a good way to look waht MM fits you most ..

i tested 100 spins from a real casino table and bet always on the last landed colour with 1 unit beginning = 10 euros except Stans where i started with 11..

so here are the BK trends from the Martingale , Guetting , Stans and The Cheating D'Alambert , i hope i did the Cheating D Alamber right
if not i send the spins also so you can check if iots correct or not.. also everyone is invited to test the same 100 spins  with your own MM or another MM i didnt test .. would like to see the results....

cheerz

[Natural9]

Wow so  good work atre you able to test the pluscoup and a Labouchere

Regards Rodney

[Breeze88]

Hi Natural


Thnx .. i will test them too and post results later..

cheerz

[Breeze88]

Hi Natural


Here are The Results from the Pluscoup and The Labouchere .. tested with the same 100 spins and the same way , bet always on the last landed colour..


the labouchere line was 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10  .. so that the starting bet is the same as with Stan K´s .. 11 WC . (Wahtever Currency )

cheerz

[Allin]

Good try friend,

     But i have bad news after 10K of spin test..my balance stand at -1241$ with your money management.

     In another test it gave bad results as well -3114$

     Sorry brother Keep going.

Regards

[Natural9]

Hi Natural


Here are The Results from the Pluscoup and The Labouchere .. tested with the same 100 spins and the same way , bet always on the last landed colour..


the labouchere line was 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10  .. so that the starting bet is the same as with Stan K´s .. 11 WC . (Wahtever Currency )

cheerz

All reslts show positiver  is  strange that you must have a good bunch of spins do you know the Deance MM at all it like a stretched martingale

Regards Rodney

[Breeze88]

HI

@Allin .. nice test .. may i ask on waht you bet ? .. because a MM should be used with a good beeting plan .. else it would not help you
that much..


@Rodney .. yea the spins i use are quit good for betting the last landed colour but i didnt know it at the beginning .. even the martingale ended up in profit..

and no i didnt heard about the Deance MM . where can i find it ? .. thnx

cheerz

[VLSroulette]

and no I didnt heard about the Deance MM . where can I find it ? .. thnx

Hello dear breeze, I just uploaded the Deance Progression document here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=318

Have a look.
Victor

[Breeze88]

HI Victor MY Friend..


Thnx for the file .. i will take a look at it...


The PM i O U .. comes as soon as  i have it clearly written 


cheerz

[Breeze88]

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