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Started by winkel, April 18, 2009, 04:48:49 PM

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winkel

This is one strategy I ccreated before I found the G.U.T. But you will see the roots in it.

I´m using today´s spin of Wiesbaden table 3

In the beginning it is a bit slow and boring, because we have to build up our bet-selecting groups

For real play we have to prepare 13 pieces of paper/carton with the Zero and each line,

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
9   ,   25   ,   26   ,   27
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
11   ,   31   ,   32   ,   33
12   ,   34   ,   35   ,   36
[/table]                  
Why? you will see.

The first spin is 18

we take the row and put it on the table
[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
[/table]   

the nex spin is 24 we add the next row under it, so that the last hit is always at the bottom

[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
[/table]

the next spin is 15

[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
[/table]   

the next spin is 24
[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
[/table]

the next spin is 34
[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
12   ,   34   ,   35   ,   36
[/table]

the next spin is 26
[table=,]   
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .               
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
12   ,   34   ,   35   ,   36
9   ,   25   ,   26   ,   27
[/table]

   
the next spin is 36
[table=,]
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .                  
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
9   ,   25   ,   26   ,   27
12   ,   34   ,   35   ,   36[/table]

the next spin is 32
[table=,]
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .                  
6   ,   16   ,   17   ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14   ,   15
8   ,   22   ,   23   ,   24
9   ,   25   ,   26   ,   27
12   ,   34   ,   35   ,   36
11   ,   31   ,   32   ,   33
[/table]
         

I hpe you see the system that you always put the last spun row to the bottom.

I will now jump to next important situation   
                  
               

waaahome

go on master ;D

i tried this before. This is how i ended up finding the way i play. but go on.................

>:D

winkel

after these spins

18
24
15
24
34
26
36
32
9
0
35
26
24
5

we have the following situation:
[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
[/table]                  

We split this table into two groups:
1. the newest hits these are the four on the bottom
2. the later hits these are the four ont the top

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
[/table]   

we always cut 4 rows to one group. The exception is the Zero. How we use the Zero I will explain later, til then we just ignore it but put it in the place where it hit.

But we still have 4 rows which haven´t hit yet, the sleepers, later we will call this last group the oldest hits.

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
[/table]                  
                              


            

winkel

So after the last spin we should have this order of our papers/cartons on the table

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
[/table]   


Now we can start to play:

the next spin is 13
this is row 5 and it is a hit from the middle group the Normalos
our next bet will be this group, but first we have to sort up again

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .

9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
[/table]

so we will bet row 6 11 3 12 an will will remember last hit was Middle group


winkel

next number is 18 row 6 another hit from middle group and we renew our list
bet 4 units - win 12 units - +8


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
[/table]

On our second list we have M M and we bet this group again, but is has changed and we bet rows 11 3 12 9

next number 19 from line 7 out of the sleepers group
-4 +8 = +4


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
[/table]

our second list shows M M S but we ignore the S and keep betting on M

next number is 25 which is from middle group
+4 -4 +12 = +12

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
[/table]

and always change the group-settings after every hit.

I hope you got the technic of listing the bet-Selection-Groups
in the next days I will show you how to select the group to bet on.

br
winkel


lucky_strike


This is a very nice post Winkel and i like how clean and clear you made the description above about how the bet selection, the indication work.
Now we all know why, where and when to play the game with that tendency.

Many thanks.

LS

eatlines

Well, don't worry.  Results are the same as if you pick four lines of either dozen.  The reason is clear, you group the lines four to four respect its exit order.  You need to notice that line that occupies every order, from 1 to 12, appears finally the same number of times.  Its behavior is exactly the same as if you pick any four lines on the board.  I can assure you what I am saying.

winkel

Quote from: eatlines on April 18, 2009, 10:08:04 PM
Well, don't worry. 
Be sure, nobody worries  >:D

QuoteResults are the same as if you pick four lines of either dozen.
You´re sure?

QuoteThe reason is clear, you group the lines four to four respect its exit order.
That´s right. but wait!

QuoteYou need to notice that line that occupies every order, from 1 to 12, appears finally the same number of times.
Did you ever hear of the Law of Third? I´m not sure!

QuoteIts behavior is exactly the same as if you pick any four lines on the board.
I will show that they behave in a certain way!

QuoteI can assure you what I am saying.
I´m not sure. I wouldn´t present this strategy, if it was just another simple selection for any doz./col.-chance.

br
winkel




eatlines

look excel programing.  Can copy your numbers on column "B".

winkel

Nice sheet, but you should have been waiting until I have finished with my explanation.

On the other hand I didn´t say it is a Grail
I even didn´t say it would be a winner
I just said it was the start of G.U.T and believe me I wouldn´t had put it to the bin if it had been better than -2,7.

I opened this topic just to show how G.U.T was born and to show a new kind of looking at spin-results.

And first of all: We have been waiting desparately for one like you who tells us "nothing works" before we already finished our construction.

br
winkel

lucky_strike

I like the basic behind the indications and would like to see more how the tendency perform.

LS

eatlines

Winkel, all system works while it works.
Obvious that no system can surpass the mathematics -2,7% for ever, only in small sections.
My intention is to warn to construct on the already proven things.
Still waiting for final explanation and to improve it if it is possible.

lucky_strike

QuoteI like the basic behind the indications and would like to see more how the tendency perform.

If I would be you Winkel I would avoid or ignore members that try to remind us off things we already know so plz continue...

LS

winkel

eatlines´s tool is quite good, he already inserted the next step of this.
with the order of the lines we add the order of it´s position before the next hit:
(remember: the newest hit at the bottom)

We restart at the bginning of our game (see post #3)

[table=,]                  
ord , Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
13 , 1   ,   1   ,   2   ,   3
12 , 4   ,   10   ,   11   ,   12
11 , 7   ,   19   ,   20   ,   21
10 , 10   ,   28   ,   29   ,   30
[/table]                  


[table=,]                  
ord , Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
9 , 6   ,   16   ,   17      ,   18
8 , 5   ,   13   ,   14      ,   15
7 , 11   ,   31   ,   32      ,   33
6 , 3   ,   7   ,   8   ,   9
5 , 0   ,   .   ,   0   ,   .
[/table]   

[table=,]                  
ord , Group   ,   .   ,   .   ,   .
4 , 12   ,   34      ,   35      ,   36
3 , 9   ,   25      ,   26      ,   27
2 , 8   ,   22      ,   23      ,   24
1 , 2   ,   4   ,   5   ,   6
[/table]   

the following spin was #13

now we note both: The number of the line (group) and the position before the hit
no. of Line : 5
pos. before hit : 8


winkel

This is the notation of eatlines tool

### appears when there is no relating "comes from"



but I add a visual part to it and note the positons where the hits come from with an "x"


winkel

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