new bet selection play.

[MATTJONO]

SECTION NUMBERS A = 9pocket section - the last number and 4 eva side.
SECTION NUMBERS B = 10pocket section - the 5thpocket to the 14th pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)
SECTION NUMBERS C = 9pocket section - the 15th pocket to the 23rd pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)
SECTION NUMBERS D = 9pocket section - the 24th pocket to the 32nd pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)

I mark the spin like this as they appear. (the last 38spins from betfread.com)
5   
24   A
34   B
11   B
34   B
26   D
11   C
3     C
20   D
11   D
7     C
20   B
36   D
5     D
14   B
34   C
19   C
6     D
9     C
32   D
11   B
4     B
33   C
14   A
15   B
15   A
24   C
1     A
12   B
34   B
11   D
28   B
36   C
24   B
34   B
2     A
11   B
8     A



below is the win/loss results if I covered the last 2 sections that apeared. (but im hoping you guys can find better way of playing this A,B,C,D section play)
   100
W   117
W   134
L   115
L   96
W   114
W   132
W   150
W   168
L   150
L   131
W   148
W   165
L   146
W   163
L   144
W   162
W   180
L   162
W   179
L   160
L   141
L   123
W   140
L   122
W   140
L   122
w   139
L   120
W   137
L   118
W   135
W   152
L   133
W   151
w   169

+69units in 38 spins.

maybe this will crash and burn but it takes into consideration the pocket distances away from the last number spun on the last 2 spins both colcwise and anticlockwise.
also it sort of goes with the flow
-- if the tables is repeating the same section its in our favour/
-- if the table is moving to the opposite side of the table alot its in our favour/


HOPE YOU CAN FIND YOUR OWN WAYS OF PLAYING THIS METHOD OF SELECTING SECTIONS.
SECTION NUMBERS A = 9pocket section - the last number and 4 eva side.
SECTION NUMBERS B = 10pocket section - the 5thpocket to the 14th pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)
SECTION NUMBERS C = 9pocket section - the 15th pocket to the 23rd pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)
SECTION NUMBERS D = 9pocket section - the 24th pocket to the 32nd pocket (to the way the dealer is spinning)


CHEERS,
MATTJONO

[MATTJONO]

THANKS TO ''Kon-Fu-Sed''  I can test this system all day long......

W-baden dealers - CW / CC spins
The left column is results from CW spins.
The right column is results from CC spins.



01.04.2003
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23     
     1   d   
25      c
     4   a  L
16      c  W
    17   b  L
19      d  L
     0   a  L
15      a  W
    17   d  L
15      b  L
     3   a  L
----------
12      a  W
    29   a  W
24      d  L
    34   b  L
24      b  W
    36   b  W
  5      b  W
    32   c  L
16      c  W
     4   c  W
----------
23      b  W
    12   c  W
34      b  W
    32   b  W
15      a  L
    22   b  W
32      b  W
    18   b  W
----------
11      c  L
    15   d  L
24      c  W
    31   b  L
32      b  W
    26   a  L
  1      d  L
    28   b  L
  4      b  W
    26   b  W
----------
21      b  W
     1   c  L
  5      a  L
     4   c  W
  7      b  L
     8   c  W
  3      c  W
    22   b  W
35      b  W
    31   b  W
  0      b  W
----------
     5   c  W
34      d  L
    33   d  W
  6      d  W
    21   b  L
28      d  W
    26   a  L
12      a  W
    33   b  L
26      b  W
    34   d  L
  3      b  W
    32   a  L
34      b  W
----------
    35   b  w 
12      a  w
     2   d  L
33      c  L
     2   c  W
24      b  L
    32   c  W
  0      a  L
    32   a  W
22      d  L
----------
    24   b  L
29      d  W
     5   d  W
26      c  L
     3   a  L
15      a  W
    13   d  L
  8      a  W
    20   b  L
29      d  L
    33   d  W
----------
31      a  L
    26   b  L
  7      d  L
    32   d  W
26      a  L
    31   b  L
16      d  L
    23   a  W
----------
21      d  W
    33   c  L
  9      b  L
     9   a  L
29      a  W
    21   d  L
----------
17      a  W
     7   b  L
  7      a  W
    31   b  W
12      b  W
     2   d  L
28      b  W
    19   d  W
34      b  W
    24   d  W
25      b  W
----------
    32   b  W
  1      c  L
    24   a  L
13      d  L
    24   d  W
36      d  W
    35   c  L
11      c  W
     1   d  W
11      d  W
    14   d  W
27      d  W
    29   c  W
35      a  L

LWLLLWLLLWWLLWWWLWWWWWWLWWWLLWLWLLLWWWLLWLWWWWWWWLWW
LWLWLWLWLWWWLLWLWLWLLWWLLWLWLLWLLLWLLLWWLLLWLWLWLWWWLWWW
WWWLLLWWLWWWWWWL   

DIDNT EVEN GO PAST  L,L,L  IT NEVER HAD 4 LOSSES IN A ROW.

L = 54
W = 68

THIS SESSION WOULD OF WON MINIMUM 150UNITS PROFIT JUST FLATBETTING. 


cheers,
mattjono

[MATTJONO]

I would not reccomend playing this system unless you have atleat 1min 30 seconds to place your bets it a real toughy to get all the bets in on time before the time limit runs out. I watch supercasino most nights for atleast 15spins around 45mins, so I will start recording on paper the bets and the W/L.

mattjono.

[xman1970]

Hey Mattjono 

you may wish to take a look @ this :-

nolinks://nolinks.macroexpress.com/


Could solve your problems betting online......


Good luck....

[MATTJONO]

cheers xman1970. i will take a look  .


mattjono

[Jish]

MATJONO I would almost (needs testing) call this a dealer signature bet, i think that some dealers will be playable and some not. As for 4 losses in a row that is great there are so little but you need alot more spin data to get an accurate perception of how it performs, Im not sure a progression would be very good.

perhaps get it coded and download your own spin data or play it over a few thousand spins.

Its a unique appoach that i have never seen. you could even make a simple program that you enter the number and it tells you your next bet based on your settings

[MATTJONO]

Hi jish.

i would love to test more spin data on this but not sure if we could programme as we take into consideration the spin direction from the last spun number which would also mean only live spin.. maybe it could be done but i dont mind testing by hand for now.

try keep you posted on this flatbetting only for now.

cheers,
MATTJONO


 

[MATTJONO]

26
   13    D
12       C
   27    C  W
15       B  L
   21    A  L
 8        B  W
   27    B  W
26       D   L
   22    B   W
14       A   L
   16    A   W
18       B   W
    4     D   L
18       D   W
    7     A   L
35       A    W
   15    D    W
35       D    W
----------
    5     C     L
 4       C      W
    0    A     L
21      B     L
   22   B     W
25      C     L
    0   B      W
 4      A      L
    2    A      W
----------
23      B     W
   17   B    W
 0      D    L
    3    A    L
16      C     L
   22   D     L
17      C     W
   32   B     L
----------  
34      B     W
   35   B     W
25     B      W
   23  D      L
 9     B      W
   10   B    W
24     A     L
   29   D    L
 4       B    L
   36   D    W
 4       D     W
    4     A    L
17       A    W
    8     D    W      (MODIFIED.......)              
----------
  6        D    W
    14    C    L
20       A    L
    12    D    L
  5        C    L
     2     D    W
  1        C    W
    32    C    W
23       C    W
    19    B    L
  1        C   W
    13    B   W
  5        B  W
----------
    13    B  W
36       A  L
     6     A  W
23       B  W
     7     C  L
  8        C  W
    24    A  L
  8        A  W
     7     C  W
  3        A  W
    33     B  L
33        A  W
    17     B  W
30        B  W
    36     A  W
20       B  W
    22    A  W
25       C  L                   

.........................WINS=48 * 17.5= +840 //// LOSES =31 * 19.5 =  -604.5

flatbetting profit =  (+235.5units)

[Jish]

one thing i notice is that 4 losses dont happen so often, have you tried to tally them up you might be able to use the steve morgan approach and max bet after x losses, 3 looks good so far but with more data perhaps 4? food for thought man

[MATTJONO]

yep in my tested spins in this thread (about 300spins) there has only been 2 occasions of LLLL........

yep its all food for thought as you say.......

bus as i said ill carry on flatbetting for now until we have around 1000spins tested by hand that should be a good start and we should have a better view of its performance.


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

Hi all.

this type of play needs some real testing on live spins if anyone would like to see if they can play this type of bet.


just tested 134 live spins
playing A,B,C sectors

A-  13 pocket sector   (6 POCKETS EVE SIDE OF THE LAST NUMBER )
B-  12 pocket sector   (7TH -15TH POCKET TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT OF THE LAST NUMBER SPUN)
C-  12 pocket sector   (16TH ROUND TO THE 16TH ----THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE WHEEL TO THE LAST SPIN)

below is when we bet the last 2 groups that have appeared

27
   15   B
27      B   
   30   A
35      C   W
14      B   L
   21   C   W
 5      C   W
   14   A   L
 1      A   W
   18   A   W
15      B   L
   18   B   W
36      C   L
    9   C   W
 9      A   L
   11   C   W
 4      B   L
   20   C   W
 0      C   W
   18   B   W
14      A   L
   12   A   W
12      A   W
   14   B   W
19      C   L
    3   A   L
 1      B   L
   22   A   W
 8      B   W
    1   B   W
22      A   W   
    8   C   L
10      A   W
   33   A   W
30      B   L
   24   A   W
26      C   L
   36   C   W
21      B   L
   26   A   L
22      B   W
   29   A   W
10      B   W
   26   C   L
28      A   L
   18   A   W
35      A   W
   35   A   W
 3      A   W
    0   A   W
34      B   L
   25   A   W
29      C   L
   27   C   W
23      A   W
   24   A   W
15      C   W
   31   C   W
 7      A   W
    9   A   W
27      C   W
   31   C   W
 3      B   L
    6   B   W
20      C   W
   34   C   W
22      C   W
   14   A   L
 2      C   W
   16   C   W
33      A   W
   21   C   W
16      C   W
   34   B   L
24      B   W
   32   C   W
21      A   L
   15   A   W
 4      A   W
   25   A   W
34      A   W
   16   B   L
31      A   W
   10   B   W
 3      C   L
   24   C   W
30      A   L
   27   A   W
18      C   W
    7   A   W
14      A   W
    8   C   W   
27      A   W
   32   B   L
25      A   W
   26   B   W
 5      C   L
   21   C   W
36      B   W
   12   C   W
 9      A   L
    7   A   W
19      B   L
   34   A   W
 1      C   L
   25   C   W
25      A   W
    3   B   L
30      C   L
    8   A   L
15      C   W
   14   C   W
 0      B   L
   31   B   W
13      C   W
   23   A   L
36      A   W
   13   A   W
17      A   W
   18   C   W
33      B   L
   18   B   W
15      B   W
    3   A   L
12      A   W
   29   A   W
 1      B   W
   12   B   W
33      B   W
    0   C   L
16      C   W
    3   C   W
11      C   W
    4   B   W
 4      A   

FLATBETTING
L=   39*24.25 = -945.75  

W=  95*11.75 = +1116.25


+170.5 profit


mattjono

[MATTJONO]

if anyone has ther spins from there casino visit im pritty sure that it would of been a profit flatbetting.

[MATTJONO]

looking at maybe using the last 2 groups to have the base bet of 24 numbers then picking RED or BLACK depending on whats happening that would bring my bet selection down to 12 numbers.

anyone fancy giving me a test I would need around 6 numbers to start then I will choose the bets from there see how I go.

EXAMPLE

27
15 B      
27 B       
30 A    guess black next in groups A,B which would mean- betting on the next spin (4,2,17,6,13,11,8,10,24,33,20,31)   

cheers,
mattjono

[MATTJONO]

just seen 5 Ls on dublinbet.

If anyone has tryed this way of playing then they will know to see 5 or more Ls in a row is very rare.



18     
21 C     
33 C     
19 C     
33 C     
23 A     
23 A W         
16 A W         
24 A W         
35 C W         
33 B  L         
11 B  W           
6   A  L         
14 C  L           
8   B  L           
30 A  L     
35 C  L       
3   A  W       
22 B  L       
31 A  W       
11 B  W
10 A  W
5  A  W
8  A  W
8  A  W   
6  A  W
1  C  L
13 B  L
16 B  W


has anyone seen how often these groups are repeating...

mattjono

[MATTJONO]

TWEAKED THIS PLAY BEFORE. LOOKING ALOT BETTER

STILL PLAYING 2 GROUPS AT A TIME.

W
W
L
W
L
L
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
L
W
W
W
L
W
W
W
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W
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W
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W
W
W
W
W
L
W
L
W
W
W
L
W
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W
L
W
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W
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L
W
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W
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AROUND +160UNITS

[MATTJONO]

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