Fun Dozens System

hermes · May 25, 2010, 10:16:35 PM

For sure raindrop is not a HG but winner in long run. I lost 8 sessions from 85! Is it bad result?
The strategy exploits huge spaces of sleeping numbers on wheel which come soon enough and it doesn't matter if you like it or not. The only problem is that on fast wheels it is difficult to manage the bets. You need over 3 minutes to decide and put down the bets. Possible only on crowded tables.
Hermes

insidebet · May 26, 2010, 12:19:22 AM

Hermes,

Not true that Raindrops wins long term.

I wish you guys would stop making all the newbies here dream in technicolour.

I tested this system in RX for several hundred thousand spins and guess what? It loses at a rate of 2,54% !!!

I know, I know. Nobody will play several thousand spins in a row...

The problem with a lot of otherwise well-meaning guys here is that they don't have the most basic math knowledge.

Insidebet

Fripper · May 26, 2010, 02:39:20 PM

So, the testing guy. How often does 2 Ls come in a row?

It looked very nice when I tested this with my progressions..

/Fripper

hermes · May 26, 2010, 06:55:21 PM

Math cannot beat roulette, never did and never will! Roulette has nothing to do with math but with natural physics laws. Only once I lost twice in row with Rainbow (tweak of Raindrop). I used Johny's progression, it is good.
Hermes

P.S.
The Raindrop system is build on physical law. When you look at your driveway when starts to rain there will be still many dry spots but with the time less and less, and after while, whole driveway will be wet, no dry spot anymore!
The roulette wheel is your driveway before rain / spin. Find dry spot and bet on it because soon it will become wet (like Yong woman).
Hermes

insidebet · May 27, 2010, 11:08:44 PM

Hermes,

I read every line of the hundred page work from Solitude. Impressive and interesting for sure. But the way he says to play it? Worthless.
It just relies on progrssions, like most systems on this site. You win most of the time and then...bang!

I actually played Raindrop with real money. Won a few times and then.. you guessed it. A sector of 8 numbers slept for 32 spins in a row. I stuck around after I was broke to see when it would hit. It slept for another nine. So! 41 spins in a row for a sector of 8...

I guess there was an invisible umbrella over that sidewalk!

Herb 6 and a few others keep repeating the same thing: WAIT FOR THIS AND WAIT FOR THAT + PROGRESSION THIS AND PROGRESSION THAT is not going to make you a winner. All of this has been done literally thousands of times before.

And relying on good timing is just relying on luck, period.

simongae · May 31, 2010, 09:17:36 AM

Sorry. . .
what is Raindrop ??

thanks !

insidebet · May 31, 2010, 10:53:01 AM

Simongae,

Just Google "John Solitude". For sure it will get you to Raindrop. It is a long read. Like I said, quite interesting but worthless.

Insider

topcat888 · June 01, 2010, 01:47:32 AM

Quote from: insidebet link=topic=9178.msg110220#msg110220 date=1275012524
Hermes,

I read every line of the hundred page work from Solitude. Impressive and interesting for sure. But the way he says to play it? Worthless.
It just relies on progrssions, like most systems on this site. You win most of the time and then...bang!

I actually played Raindrop with real money. Won a few times and then.. you guessed it. A sector of 8 numbers slept for 32 spins in a row. I stuck around after I was broke to see when it would hit. It slept for another nine. So! 41 spins in a row for a sector of 8...

I guess there was an invisible umbrella over that sidewalk!

Herb 6 and a few others keep repeating the same thing: WAIT FOR THIS AND WAIT FOR THAT + PROGRESSION THIS AND PROGRESSION THAT is not going to make you a winner. All of this has been done literally thousands of times before.

And relying on good timing is just relying on luck, period.

Hi insidebet,

Wise words indeed...

What do you play now..? What do you suggest to get a more long term wining view..??

TC

Brad · June 01, 2010, 07:01:36 AM

Quote from: RPro75 link=topic=9178. msg56233#msg56233 date=1242509114
Who said $50 a day isn't possible?

Spin Number Type Bet Unit Win Loss Net Unit Bal. Bet Layout
0 400
1 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
2 19 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
3 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 400
4 6 Bet 1 3 -1 2 402 1 : 1st Dozen
5 20 No Bet 0 0 0 0 402
6 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 402
7 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 402
8 3 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 401 1 : 3rd Dozen
9 7 Bet 2 6 -2 4 405 2 : 1st Dozen
10 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 405
11 25 No Bet 0 0 0 0 405
12 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 405
13 23 Bet 1 3 -1 2 407 1 : 2nd Dozen
14 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
15 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
16 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 407
17 35 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 406 1 : 2nd Dozen
18 0 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 404 2 : 3rd Dozen
19 8 Bet 4 12 -4 8 412 4 : 1st Dozen
20 34 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
21 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
22 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
23 12 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 411 1 : 2nd Dozen
24 2 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 409 2 : 2nd Dozen
25 18 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 405 4 : 3rd Dozen
26 3 Bet 8 24 -8 16 421 8 : 1st Dozen
27 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 421
28 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 421
29 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 421
30 24 Bet 1 3 -1 2 423 1 : 2nd Dozen
31 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 423
32 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 423
33 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 423
34 29 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 422 1 : 1st Dozen
35 16 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 420 2 : 3rd Dozen
36 36 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 416 4 : 2nd Dozen
37 30 Bet 8 24 -8 16 432 8 : 3rd Dozen
38 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 432
39 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 432
40 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 432
41 7 Bet 1 3 -1 2 434 1 : 1st Dozen
42 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
43 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
44 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
45 20 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 433 1 : 3rd Dozen
46 30 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 431 2 : 1st Dozen
47 24 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 427 4 : 3rd Dozen
48 22 Bet 8 24 -8 16 443 8 : 2nd Dozen
49 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 443
50 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 443
51 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 443
52 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 443
53 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 443
54 11 Bet 1 3 -1 2 445 1 : 1st Dozen
55 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 445
56 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 445
57 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 445
58 4 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 444 1 : 2nd Dozen
59 0 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 442 2 : 3rd Dozen
60 24 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 438 4 : 1st Dozen
61 3 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 430 8 : 3rd Dozen
62 21 No Bet 0 0 0 0 430
63 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 430
64 14 No Bet 0 0 0 0 430
65 14 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 429 1 : 1st Dozen
66 29 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 427 2 : 2nd Dozen
67 6 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 423 4 : 3rd Dozen
68 16 Bet 8 24 -8 16 439 8 : 2nd Dozen
69 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 439
70 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 439
71 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 439
72 13 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 438 1 : 1st Dozen
73 14 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 436 2 : 3rd Dozen
74 27 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 432 4 : 2nd Dozen
75 8 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 424 8 : 3rd Dozen
76 27 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
77 18 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
78 8 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
79 7 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 423 1 : 3rd Dozen
80 7 Bet 2 6 -2 4 427 2 : 1st Dozen
81 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
82 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
83 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 427
84 31 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 426 1 : 1st Dozen
85 11 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 424 2 : 3rd Dozen
86 30 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 420 4 : 2nd Dozen
87 6 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 412 8 : 3rd Dozen
88 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
89 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
90 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 412
91 8 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 411 1 : 2nd Dozen
92 7 Bet 2 6 -2 4 415 2 : 1st Dozen
93 7 No Bet 0 0 0 0 415
94 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 415
95 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 415
96 17 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 414 1 : 1st Dozen
97 9 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 412 2 : 2nd Dozen
98 30 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 408 4 : 2nd Dozen
99 31 Bet 8 24 -8 16 424 8 : 3rd Dozen
100 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
101 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
102 11 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
103 17 Bet 1 3 -1 2 426 1 : 2nd Dozen
104 33 No Bet 0 0 0 0 426
105 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 426
106 9 No Bet 0 0 0 0 426
107 10 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 425 1 : 2nd Dozen
108 29 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 423 2 : 2nd Dozen
109 34 Bet 4 12 -4 8 431 4 : 3rd Dozen
110 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 431
111 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 431
112 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 431
113 0 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 430 1 : 1st Dozen
114 11 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 428 2 : 2nd Dozen
115 0 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 424 4 : 3rd Dozen
116 36 Bet 8 0 -8 -8 416 8 : 2nd Dozen
117 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 416
118 28 No Bet 0 0 0 0 416
119 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 416
120 27 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 415 1 : 1st Dozen
121 16 Bet 2 6 -2 4 419 2 : 2nd Dozen
122 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 419
123 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 419
124 32 No Bet 0 0 0 0 419
125 28 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 418 1 : 1st Dozen
126 30 Bet 2 6 -2 4 422 2 : 3rd Dozen
127 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 422
128 15 No Bet 0 0 0 0 422
129 17 No Bet 0 0 0 0 422
130 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 422
131 7 Bet 1 3 -1 2 424 1 : 1st Dozen
132 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
133 24 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
134 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 424
135 1 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 423 1 : 2nd Dozen
136 21 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 421 2 : 1st Dozen
137 34 Bet 4 12 -4 8 429 4 : 3rd Dozen
138 12 No Bet 0 0 0 0 429
139 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 429
140 30 No Bet 0 0 0 0 429
141 10 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 428 1 : 2nd Dozen
142 0 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 426 2 : 1st Dozen
143 27 Bet 4 12 -4 8 434 4 : 3rd Dozen
144 26 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
145 10 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
146 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 434
147 7 Bet 1 3 -1 2 436 1 : 1st Dozen
148 0 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
149 29 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
150 16 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
151 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 436
152 9 Bet 1 3 -1 2 438 1 : 1st Dozen
153 22 No Bet 0 0 0 0 438
154 31 No Bet 0 0 0 0 438
155 5 No Bet 0 0 0 0 438
156 26 Bet 1 3 -1 2 440 1 : 3rd Dozen
157 1 No Bet 0 0 0 0 440
158 13 No Bet 0 0 0 0 440
159 3 No Bet 0 0 0 0 440
160 7 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 439 1 : 2nd Dozen
161 26 Bet 2 0 -2 -2 437 2 : 1st Dozen
162 13 Bet 4 0 -4 -4 433 4 : 3rd Dozen
163 7 Bet 8 24 -8 16 449 8 : 1st Dozen
164 35 No Bet 0 0 0 0 449
165 2 No Bet 0 0 0 0 449
166 23 No Bet 0 0 0 0 449
167 22 Bet 1 0 -1 -1 448 1 : 1st Dozen
168 20 Bet 2 6 -2 4 452 2 : 2nd Dozen

+52 units in 168 spins

if my calculation is correct - flat betting would have achieved 4 units so if you used 15 as your unit size , then this would amount to 60 units profit, in fact at bet number 22 it was 8 units up which would amount to 120 - so on this example flat betting would be an option - biggest drawdown was -7 units, so flat betting with 15 as unit value would mean biggest drawdown of 105, so i would imagine for flat betting a bank of at least 500 would be needed for a 15 unit size - of course if we scale it down to a unit size of 1,then i would think a bank size of 30 should suffice, but then of course the profit would have been just 4 in our example - many people prefer flat bets if possible - it might just work.

Brad

Brad · June 01, 2010, 07:01:36 AM

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