The Street Way!!!

[Innovcon]

So I ran a few hundred spins of the method and I am impressed.  Dont get me wrong...I understand the concept of standard deviation...I am simply stating I like the approach.  What I did notice is that the few times that the approach struggled over extended spins there were always a disproportionate amount of repeats.  It seems to me that a repeating method used in conjunction with this approach would do very well to smooth out the rough spots.

I am just throwing out observations at this point.  I will continue to test the method as it stands for the time being and report back results.  I know all to well how easy it is to go off in a milion different directions and I will try and stay on point.

[MATTJONO]

this was a great session 37 spins and +77units.

I stopped the session when I thought I was getting greedy 


11                  
24                  
31                  
3                  
28                  
22                     23,29
32   -2               23,29,33
35   -3               23,26,29,33
29   32               
5                  
28                  
16                    1
29   -1               1,30
5     -2               
4     -2               1,6,30
10   -3               
14   -3               
21   -3               
19   -3               1,6,20,30,32
3     -5               
26   -5               1,6,20,30,32,35
27   -6               
27   -6               
11   -6               
20   30               
18                  
7                  
9                  
21                     8,14
9     -2               
8     34               
23                  
8                  
2                  
36                     30
9     -1               7,30
7     34               



cheers.
mattjono

[celiza427]

So I ran a few hundred spins of the method and I am impressed.  Dont get me wrong...I understand the concept of standard deviation...I am simply stating I like the approach.  What I did notice is that the few times that the approach struggled over extended spins there were always a disproportionate amount of repeats.  It seems to me that a repeating method used in conjunction with this approach would do very well to smooth out the rough spots.

I am just throwing out observations at this point.  I will continue to test the method as it stands for the time being and report back results.  I know all to well how easy it is to go off in a milion different directions and I will try and stay on point.

If I'm not mistaken I believe that was the idea of the Perfect Balance System.  It tried to capitalize on unhit's in streets & repeaters.  This method tho, does throw in Layout B, so it could be worth a try.

[MATTJONO]

thanks all for the ideas i do take it in.
I think i will carry on the way im playing.

its not all down to the unhit parts.
for the repeater part in this system.

-- we are technichly playing the hot streets all the time as 2 of the numbers have already hit.
-- Layout B the way it is set up, is so that when we get repeating sections of the wheel this should help us get a full street from layout b.
-- and i play 0 whenever the 0 has appeared during betting.


cheers,
mattjono

[MATTJONO]

I woud like to request a loss of -150 units the first one to lose 150units using the rules above is the WINNER. 

not bin that long but i have never seen a downfall of -150units. and nobody from what i know has lost 150units yet.
if you do then let me know please.
need as many actuals if im going to play for real money.


mattjono

[Innovcon]

Here are two tests I ran against some of my own actuals.  The first one is the system unmodified as explained in this thread.  The second is against the same spins using a mode I thought of.

Both tests ran against the same 105 spin data set.

Test #1 Results = +74 Units in 105 spins
Test #2 Results = +307 Units in 105 spins

-SC

**You will notice that there a (3) instances where a split bet is made.  This was a mistake but since it had no effect on the outcome of the test in unit won/lost I did not bother to correct it.**
**These are results from the non-zero wheel on Betfair.  Just in case anyone wonders why no zeros in the 105 spins.**

[Mr J]

"I stopped the session when I thought I was getting greedy" >>> This can mean two different things. Did you STOP after viewing the NEXT few numbers (lousy numbers) or did you stop at a certain point WITHOUT viewing any future numbers?  Ken

[Innovcon]

Another test of extended spins on the non-zero wheel.  Not good results and I think I passed your test for a 150 unit drawdown. 

Test 3 is using the method described in this thread.  Test 4 is using my twist.

Test 3 = -195 Units
Test 4 = -32 Units

So far results are ...

Basic = +74
           -195

Twist = +307
           -32

-SC

[Innovcon]

OK last test tonight I think.  My eyes are starting to bug out on me.

Test 5 is basic way as outlined in this thread...

+116 in 97 spins

Test 6 is my twist...

+232 in 97 spins

Keep in mind both are flat betting inside numbers.  No progressions of any kind.

So far the total results of both are as follows...

Basic

+74...105 spins
-195...301 spins
+116...97 spins

total = -5 in 507 spins

Twist

+307...105 spins
-32...301 spins
+232...97 spins

total = +507 in 507 spins 

Just a coincidence I swear.  Anyway I am shot for now.  Will test a few more later tonight.

-SC

**Same exact numbers used to test the 'basic' and the 'twist' if I didnt already make that clear**

[Mr J]

"I stopped the session when I thought I was getting greedy" >>> This can mean two different things. Did you STOP after viewing the NEXT few numbers (lousy numbers) or did you stop at a certain point WITHOUT viewing any future numbers?  Ken

[MATTJONO]

"I stopped the session when I thought I was getting greedy" >>> This can mean two different things. Did you STOP after viewing the NEXT few numbers (lousy numbers) or did you stop at a certain point WITHOUT viewing any future numbers?  Ken

hi ken was just about to reply, I stopped without viewing any numbers.
I have 9960spins that I do all my testing off. called dozen tracker dont know if anyone else has it I recived it from mxkidd77 I think or maybe from the download section its attached if anyone wants it.
I will carry on from where I left of. (the test you are on about ken is from spin 1 in the attachment).
thanks,
mattjono

[Mr J]

Thanks buddy.  Ken

[MATTJONO]

I have to admit Innovcon playing the repeating numbers does give better results so for the time being ill be testing as follows.

1. on unhit numbers from streets layout A + B.
2. on numbers that have hit 2 times.
3. bet 0 when appeared once.

STOP- a full street complete or a number hit 3 times.

BAD SESSION==  my guessing is usually good. I guess it will go as far as spin20 before one of the above hit.
and we could be betting sometimes up to 20 single numbers. BUT maybe it will never get near my guessing. (hopefully)


thanks everyone.
mattjono

[Innovcon]

Im not really sure what the best way to play it is...but I do believe it has promise.  Playing for repeats in some fashion seems to work well within the base system.  I guess time will tell.  I'll continue tweeking and testing.  I will always test the base method as well as any changes on the spins I have.  This way we can compare and contrast.

-SC

[Mr J]

"Playing for repeats in some fashion seems to work well" >>> Where is everyone? "Dont bet on repeats cause any street can hit". I'm waiting on THOSE comments. If playing repeats are not good for one method, they are no good for ALL methods, correct?  Ken

[Mr J]

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