Started by Mr Chips, May 18, 2009, 02:40:59 PM

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Nherisson

Mr Chips,

thank you to take time to help me to understand this system. I read you detailed notes and I have some questions but I will try to read it again and understand more because I don't want to ask you stupid questions.

Nherisson

Nherisson

Mr Chips,

Actually I don't understand how to make the C Table... Is there somewhere in this section where you have explained that? In which circumstances we have to activate it? I know for this example but generally I don't know...

Many thanks

Mr Chips

Nherisson,

Whenever you make an entry in the C column in the Main Table you must also do the same in the C Table. Therefore the totals in both Tables
must agree.

If we have the following sections

7
14
3  l
---
23
18
10  l
---
28
15
34  h
---

C Table

l    m    h
1         1
2

The C Table shows l is the leader and if the Table is activated, it means the C column in the main Table is not used, with the exception that if
a section is as follows:

16
33
?

Here with C in the lead in the Main Table we would expect an L group number, but also we would expect an l for the C Table as it is the leader
and therefore as l is the leader in the C Table on this occasion only the C column is used. If a m or h is expected then the C Table is active
again.

If an l was to win in the above example the C Table would stop and it would then be a normal session again.

The C column in the Main Table has to be the leader for the C Table to become active. Also it must be a losing session.

Regards

Mr Chips

Nherisson

Ok! NOw I understand how to make the 'C Table' but I'm still at a loss about when we have to active the 'C Table'. I know that C in the Main Table has to be the leader and that it must be a losing session but that's all.

For example, why we don't active the 'C Table' at select spin 6 in my example?

Mr Chips

If you look at my note at select spin 12, HG had a hit and if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win. It is for this
reason that the C Table can be activated.

Nherisson

Quote from: Mr Chips on May 27, 2009, 12:56:46 PM
If you look at my note at select spin 12, HG had a hit and if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win. It is for this
reason that the C Table can be activated.
So if we have these sections:

15
30
36
---
14
34
2
---
30
15
30
---
12
20
9
36

Here at select spin 12, the 'C Table' is activated because HG had a hit and if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win. Is it right?

Thanks Mr Chips

Mr Chips

Yes you are correct.

Mr Chips

Nherisson

Mr Chips, your system is very interresting, I love it. Do you play this system in real money? Do you think the system works in RNG?

Ok, I think I will understand more with examples. So, can you have a look on these numbers (attached) and give me a detailed reply like the previous one, please?

Thank you.

Mr Chips

Nherisson,

I am very pleased you like the system. I have done a number of tests at various casino's in the the UK, at the Tables and roulette machines.
At the end of every 30 sessions, it has always made at least a 3 figure profit.

4Selecta is a complicated system, but when you understand all aspects of the system and practice a number of sessions, you will understand
when to exit a session, whether in profit or where possible, with a minimum loss approx -50 units.

I think you have to be very careful with PRNG numbers, as it may be wise to practice and see what results you get with them.

I will look at your attached numbers and give you a detailed reply tomorrow.

Regards

Mr Chips

Mr Chips

Available Numbers

36x2, 25, 35, 8, 16

2, 30, 11, 28, 20

31x2, 32x2, 33x2, 24x2, 14

Main Table

[table=,]
LG,MG,HG,C
1,1,1,1
2,2,2,2
3,3,3,3
4,4,,4
,5,,5
,6,,6
,7,,
[/table]

C Table

[table=,]
l,m,h
1,1,1
,2,2
,,3
[/table]

[table=,]
Select spins,section groups,+/-
1,36,
2,2,-1
3,30,-2
4,36,-4
5,25,-6
6,35,-9
7,31,-11
8,32,-15
9,11,-19
10,31,-22
11,33,-25
12,8,-29
13,24,-32
14,16,-37
15,24,-6
16,28,-12
17,32,+18
18,20,+12
19,14,+6
20,33,+34
21,0,+25 Exit
[/table]

Detailed Notes

Select spin 4: Missed out on an early win. There are no M available numbers, so cannot expect a C, therefore as LG is the second
leader, the expectation is for LG.

Select spin 5: HG and C are level in the Main Table. HG is however the 'active' leader.

Select spin 10: Again missed out on a win. There are some negative signs more than positive ones in this session. MG and C are
level in the Main Table, but MG is the' 'active' leader. The only positive sign is that there are a good selection of available numbers
from all the groups.

Select spin 15: The first win. A MG was impossible, therefore the expectation was for a C. This makes for a certain minimum loss of
-50 approx, if necessary, later in the session.
Note: In most systems a loss would be considered terrible news, but in 4Selecta there is a built in loss strategy and we must expect
from the system, a certain number of minimum losses and therefore it is expected as part of the overall profitability of the system.

The bets are not high at this stage of the session. Again MG and C are level in the Main Table ( a catch up situation). C is now the

Select spin 17: Another win. This puts the session in profit for the first time. This is a critical moment in the session. A serious
evaluation of the session must now take place. Up to this point there were more negative signs than positive ones. This latest win
has given us the opportunity to consider breaking even. The system allows for minimum losses, but also for break even situations in
mostly negative sessions. If the profit is lost, then a break even decision will be the likely outcome.

Select spin 20: A third win increases the profit in the session. If this had not been a win I would exit at this point. This changes the
evaluation of the session completely. This third win guarantees taking a profit from the session. The decision now is to take a profit
at least +18 approx, as shown by the earlier profit of +18. The highest bet now is 9 units, so getting close to a double unit bet.
The available numbers are excellent.

Select spin 21: A zero reduces the profit to +25 units and a further loss will likely reduce it further to below +18, therefore a decision

It is always interesting to look further on in the session and it turns out there would have been a win at select spin 23, but that is
with hind sight of course. In a casino it is always best to leave a Table immediately then you never know if there is a win or not.

Considering the negative indications early in the session a +25 units is a good profit in the circumstances.

Nherisson

Mr Chips,
thank you again for this detailed reply! It's very helpful! I am very grateful to you for it.

Some questions:
1/ Look at my reply #56 on this thread. I posted some numbers. These numbers come from the beginning of this section that you have tested. In your reply #57, you said I'm correct if I activate the 'C Table' at select spin 4 but in your detailed notes, you didn't activated the 'C Table', why?

2/ When the 'C Table' is activated, how do you play? You play in the same way that when you use the Main Table but with the 'C TAble'? I mean you bet LG if it is the leader, the last active if there are equality between groups?
When do you desactivate the 'C Table'? When C is no longer the leader in the Main Table?

Regards

Nherisson

Mr Chips

Hi Nherisson,

When I originally started to reply to your post (reply 57), I assumed at first it was the start of a session, but then I changed the
reply, because I saw your "here at select spin 12", so assumed it was a later part of a session. So a misunderstanding here.

In my original reply that I was going to send, I said that in theory you could 'activate' the C Table, but that it was really too soon
in the session, as another section could soon catch up and so end the C Table. It is better to 'activate' the C Table when the C
column in the Main Table is well in the lead.

You deactivate the C Table temporarily, as shown in my detailed reply 51, select spin 12, also see my NOTE.

You must completely deactivate the C Table, if for example HG levels with C in the Main Table, because HG will then be the

I think that covers all the situations for ending the C Table.

Regards

Mr Chips

Nherisson

Thanks Mr Chips!

I have also a question about your reply 2 in 'When to Exit a 4Selecta session'. In this reply you show a good example of when the C Table is activated.
The 'C Table' is activated at selctive spin 18 and I agree. But why the 'C Table' is not activated at selective spin 11 because HG had a hit and if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win.

Regards

Nherisson

Mr Chips

At select spin 8, MG became the second leader after C in the Main Table, therefore at select spin 11 the section 8,13,?, the expectation
would be for an MG section and not HG, if C was not the leader. Do you agree?

Nherisson

Mr CHips,

Ok I agree. So I discovered a new rule about the 'C Table'.

To summarrize, the 'C Table' is activated when:
- C is well in the lead in the Main Table
- A section (LG, MG or HG) had a hit and if the C column was not the leader it would have been a win.
- This section should be the leader after C
... What else?

The 'C Table' is temporarily desactivated (what du you mean by 'temporarily desactivated'? you mean desactivated for one selective spin?) when:
I don't really know... Can you give me one more concrete example where the 'C Table' is temporarily desactivated?

The 'C Table' is completely desactivated when:
- LG, MG or HG is leveled with C in the Main Table
... What else?

Thanks

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