Questions for Clothdog about his Root System

[bloomone2002]

HEy Bloom. Thats a hit cuz you always incorporate the 0!

Cheers
/Compa

ok, well then depending upon rule/scenario, with group 1-2-3, the player will bet on either 9#s or 13#s, considering that they are playing 2 roots or 3 roots from this group?

Also, another assumption, if player is betting on a double zero wheel, then group 1-2-3 would be 10#s or 14#s to bet,  i guess, because 0 and 00 would be part of the same 1-2-3 group?

Also, someone else told me something different:

"In both examples, they are misses unless you are betting the zero specifically. What I understand is that you treat the zero as part of the 123 when tracking, but you don't actually bet it."

[TwoCatSam]

Clothdog

Concerning the 0..  Do you consider it a root?  What is meant by this:  "zero is not a root but include that number."?  In the example you give you do use zero as a root: "OK we have 28 and 0 with 1 spin between.  Start play."

Are you saying when two numbers from a root, ie 3 and 12 hit, you have a 3-3 and you then bet ONLY the numbers in the three group?  3, 12, 21, and 30 and you do NOT bet the other two roots?  I read it to say you include it in the roots and bet all three.  I think I see my error.

Thanks for working with me on this.

Sam

[iggy]

Hi Clothdog;

I would like to ask a question. I just wondered why you have arranged the groups as 1-2-3, 4-6-9, and 5-7-8 ?
Could you not use 1-2-3, 4-5-6, 7-8-9 as below ?
I think that you must have some reason for this and just was curious about it.

Root Groups:
1=1-10-19-28
2=2-11-20-29
3=3-12-21-30....this is the 1-2-3 Group

4=4-13-22-31  
5=5-14-23-32
6=6-15-24-33....this is the 4-5-6 Group

7=7-16-25-34
8=8-17-26-35
9=9-18-27-36...this is the 7-8-9- Group

Kind Regards;

iggy


 

[bloomone2002]

Good question, here another approach for groupings:
1,3,5
2,4,6
7,8,9

What about that CD?

[Clothdog]

I've been working on this for almost a year. I'm not saying this is the grail. You can play this system on any wheel! 0-00 Makes no difference. I've played it on airball(no dealer) and ran a $800 br over $4000.
Actually, why not 1-3-6, 2-4-7, 5-8-9? Make up your own groups? If that were the case I owuld have just said , "make up your own 3 groups and see how you do. You will see roots of 5 follow 7, 9 follow 4 etc.
No, you can't change the groups with my system.  There is a reason.  these groups will go out and come back like gangbusters. I've been able to pick single numbers by watching these groups over thousands of spins. you can do what you want , no offense mates, but I didn't make those groups up out of thin air.
Sam, I know 0 is not a root but I included it  playing 123. I couldn't upload that file to look at it. I use this system but I track a few more numbers@ 5-10. My friend used it with my updated modifications which I have not posted. He played one number straight that I gave him  and I picked 3 numbers correct in 5 spins and we walked away with $1500. $15 on each number. The woman at the table couldn't believe it.  I wasn't even watching where the ball was falling. I just watched the board. Luck? maybe once, but 3 times? 8-)
cd

[iggy]

Hi Clothdog;

Thank you for the reply. Now I know your logic behind the choice of groups.

Thanks again.

Kind Regards;

iggy

[bloomone2002]

Clothdog
The following is from my previous 2 post on this thread

ok, im sure what to do with the zero or double zero. So, if we are betting on group 1-2-3 and the zero shows, do we hit or miss?  in other words are betting the 0 with group 1-2-3, ( so if I am betting all 3 roots I include the zero and/or double zero)?
See examples A and B below:

Example A      
10      
0      g 1-2-3 (play root 2 and 3)
0      is this a hit or miss
     
Example B      
20      
4      
3      g1-2-3 (play root 1 and 2)
0      is this a hit or miss



ok, well then depending upon rule/scenario, with group 1-2-3, the player will bet on either 9#s or 13#s, considering that they are playing 2 roots or 3 roots from this group?

Also, another assumption, if player is betting on a double zero wheel, then group 1-2-3 would be 10#s or 14#s to bet,  I guess, because 0 and 00 would be part of the same 1-2-3 group?

Also, someone else told me something different:

"In both examples, they are misses unless you are betting the zero specifically. What I understand is that you treat the zero as part of the 123 when tracking, but you don't actually bet it."

Bloom

[TwoCatSam]

Clothdog

I am totally convinced your numbers go on fantastic runs.  I saw the 5 7 8 Root hit six or more times in a row.  I think I pretty much have your idea nailed down and will soon try it with real money at Suite332.com

Thanks for posting this system.

Samster

[Clothdog]

Great Sam! Good luck! What's interesting is that when you see say the 578 group hit and the 8 group is missing, bet your bottom dollar that either 8-17-26-35 will hit. If you're following the dealer you can narrow it down further. It goes the same with any group. If you get say 3 hits in 5 spins from one group and a root is missing key on that missing root. That's one of the ways I pick single numbers. But there is a little twist to it depending on what numbers show. My update includes playing the end digit of the last number of the root group you are playing. This narrows it down tremendously. I need to test more before I post.
cd

[Clothdog]

Clothdog
The following is from my previous 2 post on this thread

ok, im sure what to do with the zero or double zero. So, if we are betting on group 1-2-3 and the zero shows, do we hit or miss?  in other words are betting the 0 with group 1-2-3, ( so if I am betting all 3 roots I include the zero and/or double zero)?
See examples A and B below:

Example A      
10      
0      g 1-2-3 (play root 2 and 3)
0      is this a hit or miss ...............WITH 0  I ALWAYS INCLUDE 10-20-30. SO IT WOULD BE A WIN. YOU A HAVE A DOUBLE ROOT HITTING SO YOU PLAY THEM ALL.      
Example B      
20      
4      
3      g1-2-3 (play root 1 and 2)
0      is this a hit or miss  .IT'S A HIT BECAUSE YOU MUST INCLUDE THE 0. YOU WOULD PLAY 0-10-20 AND LEAVE OUT 30.   .



ok, well then depending upon rule/scenario, with group 1-2-3, the player will bet on either 9#s or 13#s, considering that they are playing 2 roots or 3 roots from this group? CORRECT. IT COULD BE 12 #'S IF WITH 469 IF SAY 13-22 HIT BACK TO BACK OR ONE SPIN APART. REMEMBER IT'S DOUBLE ROOT OR REPEATING NUMBER.

Also, another assumption, if player is betting on a double zero wheel, then group 1-2-3 would be 10#s or 14#s to bet,  I guess, because 0 and 00 would be part of the same 1-2-3 group? YES. BUT YOU  Cn cut your bets by just playing 4 streets 1-10-19-28 and split the 00.

Also, someone else told me something different:

"In both examples, they are misses unless you are betting the zero specifically. What I understand is that you treat the zero as part of the 123 when tracking, but you don't actually bet it." Yes. unless you are betting the zero specifically. if a 10-20-30 pop, you must include the zero, otherwise leave it out.
hope this helps.
cd
Bloom

[TwoCatSam]

CD

I will begin looking for three roots to appear within the last five spins and zero in on the missing root.

I may run this as a separate study.  

I am not afraid to risk the $10 per number at Riverbelle, but I am afraid of getting lost in my numbers and failing to bet on a number and being shut out.  The darn thing nearly always hits!!  I must practice more at Dublin.

Sam

[bloomone2002]

Ok Clothdog,

I think I got it! Please confirm Example C, D, E and F

Example C
19
4
3 g1-2-3 (play root 1 and 2), do not incl 0, unless specifically betting on the zero throughout the session
0 This a miss

Example D
12  
4  
3 g1-2-3 (play root 1, 2 and 3), do not incl 0, unless specifically betting on the zero throughout the session
0 This a miss

Example E
4  
3  
3 g1-2-3 (play root 1, 2 and 3), do not incl 0, unless specifically betting on the zero throughout the session
0 This a miss

Example F
11  
26  
20 g1-2-3 (play root 1, 2 and 3), and include 0 with bet
0 This is a hit


Thanks for your help

[Alfa_Street]

Sam, I know 0 is not a root but I included it  playing 123.

By my knowlege about numbers, the 0 belong to group 123 because:

0=37 --> 3+7=10 --> 1+0=1  --> group 123

Cheers

[xman1970]

Excellent work cd  


Many thanks for being kind enough to share.....


Take it easy.....[smiley=beer.gif]

[Clothdog]

yes alfa that is correct. you are also correct Bloom, If you want to like alfa said include the 0. Like I said this is not etched i stone. I would be more apt to put the 0 in if any one of the numbers were 10-20 or 30. but like I said when you have double roots or repeaters, if a 10-20-30 hit, put in the 0.
cd

[Clothdog]

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