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Marven

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Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 02:55:39 PM
This is a 'up as you win' staking plan.

Look at the 5 last outcomes in the betting registry (of the actual placed bets): You next placed bet should be equal to the number of w's you see in those 5 last spins.

(Note: for the first 5 bets, start with 1 unit and alter your bet based on the number of w's you get.)

Example:

Win
w <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit again
Loss
wL <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit
Loss
wLL <-- 1 w, next bet is 1 unit
Win
wLLw <-- 2 w's, next bet is 2 units
Win
wLLww <-- 3 w's, next bet is 3 units
Loss
w[LLwwL] <-- 2 w's, next bet is 2 units
(notice how we only look at the 5 last results)
Win
wL[LwwLw] <-- 3 w's, next bet is 3 units
Win
wLL[wwLww] <-- 4 w's, next bet is 4 units

Etc.

Here is a sample session where I was betting on 2 thirds of the wheel which is the same as 2 dozens = 24 numbers actually:
llwwwwwwwlwwlwwwlllllwwlwwwwlwwlwwwwlwwllwww
Flat betting gives: -1
With this staking plan, it's: +2

Pros:
- Non explosive. Limited to 5 units as maximum bet.

Cons:
- Not a holy grail in itself. Depends on the bet selection.

So use a good bet selection, and always quit while you're ahead. In the sample session above, there was a point where I'm +17.

Cheers,
Marven

vix

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 03:20:14 PM
A good bet selection would be the Lw strategy... right?
I've tried the 6 point divisor with the Lw, but it did get explosive at some times, wasn't very happy about that. Maybe this will work better, for me at least. Thanx for the input

Vix

Marven

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 03:44:14 PM
Cheers Vix!

You mean Victor's Lw with the dozens/columns? Sure, if you're good at it.
Personally, I don't play the LD/JD/etc when playing Lw. I prefer tracking many dozen groupings (in their raw form) at the same time, I also track the 6 lines (targeting 4 lines, which is the equivalent of 2 dozens).
The more, the merrier, as it would give you more chances to spot betting opportunities. Still, your best bet is not to bet until you spot a situation you're totally comfortable with, like a strong sleeper here, a perfect pattern there, etc. etc.

A good thing is to get used to one type of bet/event and learn everything you can about its behavior, instead of switching systems all the time.

Regarding the 6 point divisor: I agree. It's a great staking plan compared to all those progressions out there, but it's an up as you lose plan and there is always the possibility for the bet selection to have some quite unusually bad times, exploding your bets as a result. Personally, I (now) believe that betting more when you're winning, and less when you're losing is the most commonsense thing to do (unless you're a flat-bettor) with a limited/maximum bet that you're comfortable placing (in my case, I wouldn't place more than 5 units per bet).

Regards,
Marven

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
Thanks marvin.

I dont know what it is with me and my street type betting but that is where I feel most stongest in my bet selctions and now using this method I can surly ride the good times and loss less on the bad times.

thanks alot.

mattjono

Marven

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
Good for you my friend. Stick to the streets then (well not literally, LMAO).
4 years of experience with one type of event is better than 10 years trying a different system every two weeks.

Marven

MATTJONO

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 04:03:03 PM
Good for you my friend. Stick to the streets then (well not literally, LMAO).
4 years of experience with one type of event is better than 10 years trying a different system every two weeks.

Marven

I agree marvin. ''practice makes perfect''.

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
great idea marvin. will surely test this!

thanks

Lanky

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 09:21:11 PM
Marven.

Well done Mate.....Good Job Cobber.

@Vix could you Pm Me as to what You were betting =Dozens Evens etc and could You please put the Lw's down as You had them and I will Have a look at it all for You Vix.

Lanky.

Lanky

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 03, 2009, 10:45:57 PM
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Regarding the 6 point divisor: I agree. It's a great staking plan compared to all those progressions out there, but it's an up as you lose plan and there is always the possibility for the bet selection to have some quite unusually bad times, exploding your bets as a result. Personally, I (now) believe that betting more when you're winning, and less when you're losing is the most commonsense thing to do (unless you're a flat-bettor) with a limited/maximum bet that you're comfortable placing (in my case, I wouldn't place more than 5 units per bet).

Funnny that You said Marv....Because it just so happenes that this is what happened with the Divisor.

Playing the 2 Dozens or Columns Etc using the Divisor.

Without using a Timeline Strategy Play.

And I will play it by using the 6/6 Method.
And there was a Profit of {+11}

And at one stage There was only 2 Wins in 8 Bets.
And the next Bet was 5.

Ps ..Here is the link to the full results....

http://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/msg62884/#msg62884

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 04, 2009, 04:55:20 AM
Lanky, I'll have to dig up some of my results, it has been a while since I was playing that way. Thanx for the help!

What is a Timeline strategy plan?

Vix

Lanky

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 04, 2009, 08:49:06 AM
Lanky, I'll have to dig up some of my results, it has been a while since I was playing that way. Thanx for the help!

What is a Timeline strategy plan?

Vix

Hi Vix .

It means Betting With the use of say the Lw's as a Guide.

Without using it
It Means the Player is just betting at will.
Or betting continuously.

Lanky.

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 06, 2009, 06:40:09 PM
I have tested this wagering method of Marvens using a base of 500 trials.

It works very well.

Why don't some of you players test this?

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 08, 2009, 12:11:08 AM
Great Staking plan, thanks for posting.

I applied it to my worst baccarat shoe and came out ahead.

Marven

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 08, 2009, 08:12:01 PM
Alrighty guys, glad some of you liked it.

@Lanky: Great results! I have to admit that so far I haven't seen anything that manages one's stakes better than the divisor, even Advantage Play guys should consider it.

Both, the divisor and this humble staking plan of mine do of course depend on the bet selection's performance. The good thing about the divisor though is that it depends LESS on how well the results are, which is great.

Okay, here are the results of a session I played today. I used a timeline situational strategy on EC's, flat betting. But I have included the results of the 5 Level Plan, along with the Divisor Plan:

Betting Registry:
llwwllwwlwwwlllwlwwwlwwwwwwwlwllwlllllwllwwllwlwllwllwwlwllwwwwwwwwlwllwwllwllllwwwllllwlwllwlwwwwlwlwllwwlw

Flat Betting: +4
5 Level Plan: +19 (highest bet placed: 5 units, obviously)
35 Point Divisor: +23 (highest bet placed: 7 units)

I'd say Lanky wins this round.

I'll play another session tomorrow.

Cheers to all,
Marven

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Re: Marven's 5 Level Staking Plan
June 09, 2009, 04:46:26 AM
Marven, what bet selection do you use for the EC's?

Vix