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What Does Reading Random Mean

Started by cheese, April 07, 2011, 03:19:52 AM

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cheese

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
I'm doing it.

You've found good and bad times in random sequences. A mathematical impossibility. There is no better time to make a bet, its all the same. Yet you're 'doing it'.

Sure you are.

gizmotron

Quote from: cheese on April 09, 2011, 07:05:34 PM
You've found good and bad times in random sequences. A mathematical impossibility. There is no better time to make a bet, its all the same. Yet you're 'doing it'.

Sure you are.

You are without exception the Cheesiest of all the mathboyz. And you come off looking like Barney Fife trying it too. You just love to argue.

cheese

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
You are without exception the Cheesiest of all the mathboyz.

OK, prove me wrong. Give just one example of a 'good' time to bet. Make me look bad. Show us you know the next spin so well that you can conclude this is the 'best' time to bet. I've said literally thousands of times that there can never EVER be a best or worst time, thats what makes roulette beatable. But here you are, saying the exact opposite. Vaporware, vaportheory.

cheese

Quote from: Frame it on April 09, 2011, 09:23:10 AM


Are you saying that if I look at the last 8 spins and I see 6 reds and 2 blacks (regardless of what pattern there is b/c I don't pay attention to patterns), that I absolutely will not get at least 1 or two more reds in the next 2-4 spins?  
Of course you will say no.    You will say that anything can happen at anytime and you are right.    However when I see this on the marquee I am far more right than I am wrong.    

Far more right than wrong. You see 6 reds and 2 blacks and you get 1 or 2 more reds in the next 2-4 spins, far more often than you don't. Thats physically and mathematically impossible, you realize that, right? If what you're saying is true, everybody would be at the casino right now playing it. Using a progression, you would never lose. And they're not playing it. What does that tell you.

cheese

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 07:34:13 PM
My software is smarter than you. That's your demo. Try it, don't try it, fine. If others find that it works then you will be forced to try it.

Ok, I'll try it if you give just one example of a 'best' time to bet. Prove me wrong. You can't do it because it can't be done. Therefore, your download is a pantload.

cheese

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 07:50:15 PM
I guess you are too stupid to recognize a winning streak.




So a winning streak is the 'best' time to bet? But in roulette, there are just as many losing streaks as winning streaks, so in the end, you're playing right at the house edge. Thats it, thats your whole strategy? But thats every ploppies strategy, bet a lot when you're winning, and less when you're losing. Nothing new about that.

cheese

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 08:07:10 PM
You are such a moron. You sound exactly like Snowman.






So you think there are more winning streaks than losing streaks. And if you just follow the winning streaks, all will be good. Right?

iggiv

Gizmo, bud, please calm down. I understand that u consider Cheese wrong, but no excuses. no personal attacks or insults. Remember that. Please.

cheese

Quote from: cheese on April 09, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
So you think there are more winning streaks than

You're silence on this speaks volumes. No examples, no explanations, is this what you sold your students? No wonder they contacted me.

curious

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 07, 2011, 03:00:36 PM
I'm not ignorant of math. I started out with probability books and hand held calculators more than 20 years ago while hand writing simulations. Frequentest probability is no "badge of honor" either.

So how will you explain a working algorithm that beats this game long term? Won't it become time to admit to being a little ignorant of math on that day? That day will soon arrive. So get ready for it. We should have a BOZO festival and a fools parade. The Mathboyz burn forever day. This archive will be a testimony to Nikola Tesla types.

Let me make sure I understand this.  You have claimed in other posts on this forum that you have the Gizmotron algorithm, but it "is not built yet".  So, I am guessing that you are talking here about your own algorithm.   And, you are planning on implementing it at some point.  Then you will have a positive edge versus roulette.  But, here you are insulting people who understand math.  So, your algorithm is not based on math and cannot be understood by anyone who knows anything about math?  Is that what you are saying?

gizmotron

Quote from: curious on April 14, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
So, your algorithm is not based on math and cannot be understood by anyone who knows anything about math?  Is that what you are saying?

No. Why are you asking me questions? Do you have a bet going from a troll gathering?

Don't feed the troll.

curious

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 14, 2011, 01:43:45 PM
No. Why are you asking me questions? Do you have a bet going from a troll gathering?

Don't feed the troll.

I am asking you questions because i want you to either explain your system or method or whatever you call it, or tell everyone that you refuse to explain it.  And stop calling me names.  If you can fill up every single thread on this forum with your nonsense, then I can ask you to explain what you claim to have.  So far you have refused.

iggiv

Quote from: Gizmotron on April 09, 2011, 08:38:11 PM
He only posts this worthless crud here is to filibuster this forum. Can't you see that? His sole purpose is to run my posts off the recent posts list.

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Gizmo, I am not a judge, and that's not a court. I don't know anyone motives and purposes here. I don't know who  is right and who is wrong in pushing his ideas in the forum. All I know is that I want this forum be a friendly place,
about discussing roulette, not attacking each other. that's it. So here we go.

Curious and Gizmo, please try to put your mutual personal dislikes aside, and get to the subject, not to
manifest what you think about each other behaviour in the forum. You both have rights to express your opinions, critisize each other ideas, but please a bit less hostile. This is not a religious war or a witch-hunt. Thanx, guys.
:)

gizmotron

Quote from: curious on April 14, 2011, 02:49:41 PM
I am asking you questions because I want you to either explain your system or method or whatever you call it, or tell everyone that you refuse to explain it.  And stop calling me names.  If you can fill up every single thread on this forum with your nonsense, then I can ask you to explain what you claim to have.  So far you have refused.

I'm not telling everyone that I refuse to explain it. I'm just telling you that I refuse to explain it to you.

bombus

Quote from: I have cookies on April 07, 2011, 09:26:24 AM
Tic Tac Toe sounds good - I made a old classic post about a similar way and assume some one have the option to strike different events using Tic Tac Toe - so how do you play ?

I use the table layout as a tic tac toe game board. One for red/black, and one for odd/even.


Numbers 1,4,7,10 belong to the top left section.

Numbers 2,5,8,11 belong to the top middle section.

Numbers 3,6,9,12 belong to the top right section.

Numbers 10,13,16,19 belong to the middle left section.

Numbers 11,14,17,20 belong to the middle middle section.

Numbers 15,18,21,24 belong to the middle right section.

Numbers 25,28,31,34 belong to the bottom left section.

Numbers 26,29,32,35 belong to the bottom middle section.

Numbers 27,30,33,36 belong to the bottom right section.


I work backwards with the spin history and put the corresponding result in the proper section, marked R-B, or O-E.

Once a section is filled I ignore any other results that hit the same section.

The bet is when any two of the same EC's contain any 2 sections on the same line with the third section free. So just like TTT we want 1 symbol to fill a line of 3 sections.

I watch the first game then follow the last result. Sometimes there is a double bet. When there is I switch to opposite the last for that bet.

Once set up this method bets every spin.

Each new bet requires a new TTT game board drawn up.

That's just about it, although there are other betting options, and another different way to play using the EC results to play the doz/col bets... I like that one the best.

bombus

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