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Inside Number System - Wins within ten spins, Not betting every spin

Started by rjeaton1, May 10, 2009, 03:19:26 PM

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simon

I have played roulette off and on for many years at real roulette wheels and I just want to warn that often the wheel will NOT do what it is SUPPOSED to do according to probability theorey, the law of the third, the law of the jungle or any other kind of law, as I have seen this happen time and time again and have paid for it big time.  It is only within the law of large numbers (very large numbers) that percentage wise things will look more like their mathematical expectations, but by then the difference in real numbers has grown larger and larger between the various factors/chances.

That being said, I don't know if all these examples of winning games are coming from rngs or real casinos (it's hard to keep up with these long threads), but for sure the proof is in the pudding and if real wins are being observed or made from the system then go for it (I will-- I just don't plan to progress my bets--MUCH, anyway, as I have seen that go wrong too many times-- let's put it this way-- I made $1000 in one week playing a progressive system, and lost it all and then some in ten minutes when I got hit first thing, from the first bet with the run from Hell.  I left the casino in shock and vowing to myself it was over... but it never is... there is always another idea as far as roulette systems go...)

But actually the main thing I wanted to say is there is a lot no bets playing this system, and this system will not be complete until we have another system to play during the no betting.  Because you cannot sit at a roulette table and not bet for so long, it would be like going to a busy restaurant, telling the host the people you are meeting are parking the car and will be right in, and sitting at the table for a long time without ordering and getting dirty looks from the host and servers.

OK, good work, carry on.....

celiza427

Well sometimes yes it does take a while to get back down to 3 or less uniques in 20 spins...that being for example when tracking for a win you'll have a repeat trigger to bet, then you lose, you clear bets and wait for another repeat to bet again.  There are times when I have 5 or 6 numbers with 2 or more hits.  You simply track the last 20 and do exactly as you said.  You remove the lowest spin but keep the spin total at 20, the unique count will eventually get back down to 3.

Again I strongly suggest getting the "k lite codec pack" and using the Media Player Classic that comes with it.  You should have no problem viewing the videos then.

boatran8

Quote from: simon on May 14, 2009, 11:22:59 AM
I have played roulette off and on for many years at real roulette wheels and I just want to warn that often the wheel will NOT do what it is SUPPOSED to do according to probability theorey, the law of the third, the law of the jungle or any other kind of law, as I have seen this happen time and time again and have paid for it big time.  It is only within the law of large numbers (very large numbers) that percentage wise things will look more like their mathematical expectations, but by then the difference in real numbers has grown larger and larger between the various factors/chances.

That being said, I don't know if all these examples of winning games are coming from rngs or real casinos (it's hard to keep up with these long threads), but for sure the proof is in the pudding and if real wins are being observed or made from the system then go for it (I will-- I just don't plan to progress my bets, as I have seen that go wrong too many times-- let's put it this way-- I made $1000 in one week playing a progressive system, and lost it all and then some in ten minutes when I got hit first thing, from the first bet with the run from Hell.  I left the casino in shock and vowing to myself it was over... but it never is... there is always another idea as far as roulette systems go...)

But actually the main thing I wanted to say is there is a lot no bets playing this system, and this system will not be complete until we have another system to play during the no betting.  Because you cannot sit at a roulette table and not bet for so long, it would be like going to a busy restaurant, telling the host the people you are meeting are parking the car and will be right in, and sitting at the table for a long time without ordering and getting dirty looks from the host and servers.

OK, good work, carry on.....

I only play roulette over the internet... so as far as I'm concerned, doesn't have to wait a long time.

Cheers

simon

QuoteI only play roulette over the internet... so as far as I'm concerned, doesn't have to wait a long time.

...... well that would save me a lot of time, couple hours drive there and back, which of these online casinos do you trust and recommend?  Would still rather go to the b&m one, but just curious...

simon

I guess there is whole section on this I can check it out, just curious where you play

xman1970

Quote from: simon on May 14, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
I guess there is whole section on this I can check it out, just curious where you play

Hi Simon,  ;)

try nolinks.casinocity.com

Hundreds of on line casinos there & they are ranked......

To find out what people think there is a "facebook" option that has peoples ratings of on line casino's....

Happy hunting..... :yahoo:

the VLS section just informs you of "live" wheel options & the review section @ the moment stands @ one but to be fair to Trylobit the review is v v informative..... 8)

simon

wow I didn't realize there were so many, thanks xman, I guess you can gamble in your underwear from the comfort of home, if you want to...

xman1970

Quote from: simon on May 14, 2009, 11:45:07 AM
wow I didn't realize there were so many, thanks xman, I guess you can gamble in your underwear from the comfort of home, if you want to...

Well you can gamble in your underwear @ a B&M casino, but probably only the once.... :blush2:

Check out that facebook option I would assume the most honest "reviews" will be there..... :good:

boatran8

Hi all,

As I do not speak english very well, I do not understand well the new bet calculator. It'd be kind if someone can explain it to me with an example. Many thanks

Cheers  :thumbsup:

Homeito

Hello,

I have tested this system for 114 sessions on Wiesbaden spins.
Table 3 the first week of 2009.
It is found in the TESTsection.

Best regards,
Homeito Bemek

simon


boatran8

Here is my last test. I did use the first version of bet calculator. And it went to spin 32th for the last bet.

Spin   Number   Type   Bet Unit   Win   Loss   Net   Unit Bal.   Bet Layout
0                     500   
1   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
2   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
3   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
4   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
5   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
6   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
7   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
8   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
9   27   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
10   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
11   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
12   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
13   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
14   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
15   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
16   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
17   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
18   31   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
19   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
20   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
21   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
22   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
23   6   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
24   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
25   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
26   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
27   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
28   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
29   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   500   
30   31   Bet   17   36   -17   19   519   1 : 1,4,6,8,9,16,18,19,22,23,27,28,29,31,32,34,36
31   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
32   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
33   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
34   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
35   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
36   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
37   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
38   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
39   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   519   
40   19   Bet   17   36   -17   19   538   1 : 1,2,4,6,8,9,19,21,22,23,24,28,29,31,32,33,36
41   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   538   
42   24   No Bet   0   0   0   0   538   
43   7   Bet   17   0   -17   -17   521   1 : 2,4,6,8,9,19,21,22,23,24,25,28,29,31,32,33,36
44   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   521   
45   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   521   
46   15   Bet   38   0   -38   -38   483   2 : 2,4,6,7,8,9,11,19,21,22,23,24,25,28,29,31,32,33,36
47   30   No Bet   0   0   0   0   483   
48   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   483   
49   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   483   
50   19   Bet   66   108   -66   42   525   3 : 2,4,6,7,8,9,11,14,15,19,21,22,23,24,25,28,29,30,31,32,33,36
51   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
52   36   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
53   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
54   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
55   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
56   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
57   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
58   25   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
59   2   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
60   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
61   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
62   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
63   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
64   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
65   20   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
66   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
67   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
68   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
69   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   525   
70   2   Bet   17   36   -17   19   544   1 : 2,4,5,7,9,10,11,12,14,19,20,22,25,32,35,36,0
71   19   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
72   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
73   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
74   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
75   27   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
76   35   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
77   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
78   1   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
79   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
80   15   No Bet   0   0   0   0   544   
81   2   Bet   17   36   -17   19   563   1 : 1,2,4,5,7,12,14,15,16,19,20,22,23,27,32,35,0
82   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
83   21   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
84   13   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
85   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
86   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
87   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   563   
88   23   Bet   17   36   -17   19   582   1 : 1,2,4,7,10,11,13,15,16,19,21,22,23,27,29,32,35
89   29   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
90   34   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
91   5   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
92   11   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
93   16   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
94   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
95   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
96   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
97   28   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
98   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
99   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
100   18   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
101   10   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
102   4   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
103   17   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
104   33   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
105   0   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
106   9   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
107   32   No Bet   0   0   0   0   582   
108   21   Bet   17   0   -17   -17   565   1 : 3,4,5,8,9,10,11,16,17,18,23,28,29,32,33,34,0
109   7   No Bet   0   0   0   0   565   
110   8   No Bet   0   0   0   0   565   
111   30   Bet   38   0   -38   -38   527   2 : 3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,16,17,18,21,23,28,29,32,33,34,0
112   22   No Bet   0   0   0   0   527   
113   3   No Bet   0   0   0   0   527   
114   2   Bet   63   0   -63   -63   464   3 : 3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,16,17,18,21,22,23,28,29,30,32,33,34,0
115   26   No Bet   0   0   0   0   464   
116   14   No Bet   0   0   0   0   464   
117   12   No Bet   0   0   0   0   464   
118   23   No Bet   0   0   0   0   464   
119   0   Bet   125   180   -125   55   519   5 : 2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11,12,14,16,17,18,21,22,23,26,28,29,30,32,33,345 : 0

Cheers

celiza427

Here's how to use the bet calc the best way I can explain it...I'll be using the last spin session I just posted last night (186 - 300)

[IMAGE 1]Starting bankroll is 339 so you would put it in the Starting Br & Current BR columns (A & B) You can see that in the first part of the image.  Basically the only place that you will input #'s is the top column. (A, B, C, D, H)

[IMAGE 2]On spin 197 I need to place bets on 16 units, so you would put 16 in column C & D.  Now since column F is 0.533 we round up to 1 and place 1 unit on each # and still profit.  Once you input 1 in the H column, the bottom row will populate with #'s telling you how much you will profit, how big your drawdown & BR will be if you lose.  See 2nd shot of bet calc in image.

[IMAGE 3A]I lost, so I would change my Current BR (B) to 323 (which is the # that was right below Current BR)  You will always leave you starting BR the same until you win.  Spin 200 is my next bet, and I am betting on 18 #'s.  I now populate column C & D with 18.  Now F says 1.13.  According to the bet calc, if you leave 1 in column H our "Profit if Win" is still positive (+2)  Personally, on my first 2 bets I go for profits of 5 or more, but if you want any profit you would still bet 1 unit on each.

[IMAGE 3B] Shot of the bet calc the way I played in my spin series.

[IMAGE 4A] I lost again, so I change "Current Bankroll" to the # in the "BR if Loss On Next Spin" box.  It would be either 387 or 305 depending on how many units you placed on the previous bet.  For be it would be 287, I'm betting 20 #'s now so C & D would have 20 in them. F now says 2.4.  I round up and put 3 in column H.  Now here, my "Profit if Win" is a negative #.  You would increase column H by 1 unit until your "Profit if Win" becomes positive.

[IMAGE 4B] Changed H to 4 and now I have a profit of 12.  I go ahead and bet 4 units on my 20 #'s and this time I win.

[IMAGE 5]  Now I change column A & B to my new BR of 351.  C, D, & H get deleted until another bet comes up.

Hope that helped at least a little lol.

boatran8

Thanks a lot Celiza!!!! If I understand well, you always put the same number in C2 & D2 . Is that correct?

Thks

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Here is a progression table for the ones who want to print it, or cannot understand the bet calculator.

Special thanks to viper for posting a similar version  in another thread some while back.

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