Super Roulette Software

[FakeNick]

Bots are good ( or ... they can be good ) only against RNG.

[super-roulette]

Wow, this has certainly invoked some vigourous discussion!

I just want to make a few things clear of how this testing all came about and also emphatically state that Sam is not getting anything from me for testing this software. There is no affiliate program with me or with any casino. The software is what it is, a tool to help us (yes all of us) gain an edge over the casino and make a few extra bucks.

I originally put a link in the "Other Software for Roulette" section as I thought this is what the section was for. However the post was pulled due to forum policy and I have no problem with that. I contacted Victor and explained this was not a SCAM or tied up with any casino affiliation and was a legitimate tool for the no-zero wheel, that I think people would be interested in. I asked him to appraise it for me and then write an honest review.

He sent me a message back, suggesting Sam be the one to test the software. I had never met Sam, but I contacted him and explained my case and he was kind enough to run with it. I set him up with the software and online instruction manual and he has been testing it now for a few days. He and I are not profit sharing or anything of the like - he has no commercial interest in the software's success or failure - he is simply testing an idea on a forum that he moderates. People can read into it whatever they want, call me a scammer, sytem seller or whatever. This testing only came about to prove the software was not a SCAM. I know it works, it actually doesn't need more testing, but it did need verification that it was legitimate, before it could be discussed. And it is being discussed but probably not in the way I had hoped.

Also please don't accuse Sam of not having integrity, as already stated he is simply the tester driving the car.

Matt

[super-roulette]

Anyone who is gullible enough to think a bot will "make you money while you sleep" needs a slap in the face and a good wake-up call...no pun intended.

N6, you are entitled to your opinion, but I turned 200 units into 1400 units over a 5 night stretch, all played while I slept 

[Number Six]

Super-roulette,

Are you the Matt who sells roulette bot pro? If you are then you'll know that I don't think you're a scammer. The bot's architecture is not the point at stake here. It's the selling. There isn't a single place you can go on the net without someone peddling their products. It's tiresome. Why can't we have a haven?

Anyone who is serious about making profits from roulette isn't going to do it by using a bot (unless yours has AI that can match human brainpower, which we'll presume it doesn't). It's not that easy. You can't just push a button and watch the profits roll in. Why do I think this? Because a bot isn't intelligent, it has no intuition, it can't tell when the spin outcomes are turning hostile, it can't go virtual at a moment's notice and then attack again when the conditions have improved, it can't take advantages of trends and streaks ad-hoc, it can't use variation, it can't see opportunities a human can see, it can't calculate anything beyond what it has been programmed to calculate. Basically it can't think and it doesn't understand the game it is playing. People say mechanical systems are doomed, and a bot is about as mechanical as you can get. Human players find it difficult enough to win even when they have instincts and their wits about them. 

The list of reasons why bots are ineffective and will end up losing massively is endless. Why people think they are a viable way of winning is beyond my comprehension. 

[super-roulette]

Super-roulette,

Are you the Matt who sells roulette bot pro?

No different Matt.

People say mechanical systems are doomed, and a bot is about as mechanical as you can get.

Maybe with a negative expectation game. No-zero roulette is exactly that - no zero - even odds. My experience is showing a cleverly programmed bot will win more than it loses, on a no-zero wheel.

The list of reasons why bots are ineffective and will end up losing massively is endless. Why people think they are a viable way of winning is beyond my comprehension. 

I am winning consistenly - does that mean other's wont? And how do you define winning? If I am regularly taking more out than I am putting in, that is winning isn't it?

N6 you assume alot about the software without having any knowledge or experience using it. Maybe your opinion is coloured from past experiences, but you need to be open to the possibility it may actually work.

You can't just push a button and watch the profits roll in. Why do I think this? Because a bot isn't intelligent, it has no intuition, it can't tell when the spin outcomes are turning hostile, it can't go virtual at a moment's notice and then attack again when the conditions have improved, it can't take advantages of trends and streaks ad-hoc, it can't use variation, it can't see opportunities a human can see, it can't calculate anything beyond what it has been programmed to calculate.

This is the reason the BOT does work. Nothing is totally random, patterns are always evident in a sample of spins; the BOT relies on logic as the cornerstone of it's success. These 'abilities' that you mention: intelligence and intuition -  human's have them in spades, but they don't ensure success - do they? Most people I know lose alot more often than they win. Maybe they are over-thinking there gameplay?

Super Roulette is an effective tool for taking advantage of even odds, without having to sit in a casino or in front of your PC for hours. Don't over analyse it. I know it is effective, but I also understand the skepticism alot of people have - let's see how Sam's testing goes...

Matt

[TwoCatSam]

Well, take a look. 

Number Six

The only suspicion I have in this bot is not about the bot itself; it is about the casino.  Would they intentionally beat you if you played for real money? 

Look at today's sheet.  I screwed with this horribly and had it down some before I quite changing settings and let it run.  Still, look at the profit:

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[thomasgrant]

TwoCat your results are in FUN mode.
You mentioned that you are unable to get a real account.
The tests that I will be conducting will be with real money.
Will this be ok?

[FakeNick]

I have just seen it now

You are in FUN mode!

RNG usually ( I mean, always ) play different from FUN to REAL

I'm sorry but all your tests are useless now, you have to use in REAL mode ... it's the only way to see the true results.

[murph]

whats that fun mode I cant stop laughing this just gets better .... murph

[Tangram]

It says in their FAQ that the algorithms are identical for fun and real money. I know I'm starting to sound like a shill, but it's not intentional.

[KevinNash]

Exactly Tangram,

I am an old BV user,

Trust me if you want but there's no difference between fun or real mode at BV, they use a system they call " randomness control ", at the roulette game, you receive the numbers ( 10 in a row, encrypted ) BEFORE you place your bets.

I think it's the unique online casino to do that with their RNG, more info about randomness control here ( that's not an affiliate link lol ): nolinks://nolinks.betvoyager.com/games/randomness/roulette/

Just a question for Matt, your explanations about no trial version on your website don't convince me, do you think you will sell many bots without trial, no money back guarantee and for use at 1 casino only ?

For me, without trial, nobody will buy this bot ( excepted ThomasGrant  ). I am personally interested by the bot, but I'll never spend $250 without a try before.

[Lulloz]

At Betvoyager no difference from Fun and Real mode, already tested.

In playtech roulette the rng engine is different, local pc for fun mode and server for real money.

[Number Six]

Matt,

I might come across as a guy who has bought a bot before and lost money, therefore I'm bitter and bearing a grudge. I assure you that this is not the case. I have never bought a roulette bot and never will. My opinions are not opinions, they are facts based on logic and ten years experience of randomness and software robots through my professional life as a decoder. I've given another bot seller a hard time here, so it's nothing personal. All bots excel in only one department: operational speed. In everything else, compared to a human brain, they fail and they fail miserably. That you can't crack roulette by simply waiting for event (a) and then betting (b) is elemental; and it doesn't matter that there is no house edge. This is all a bot can do....wait, bet, wait, bet and on and on. It has no concept of betting tactics and strategy or any of the ingredients required to be a roulette winner. Your bot does not and absolutely never will rely on logic to win, as you claim. Because it is so mechanical, it relies on the spin outcomes to be favourable at all times. The engines that drive all roulette bots are fuelled by pure, unadulterated luck. When you're in luck you win, when your luck is out you lose. Anyone who uses a bot is skating on very thin ice. The bare truth of the matter is that roulette bots are just a fad among lazy and gullible people. They think a bot will provide all the solutions to their problems. It's true that most bot users in this context tend to be deluded and so blinded by their winning sessions that they think the bot is invincible...that it will always go on winning more that it loses. This belief is naive and dangerous. You can dress up your bot in fancy marketing and figures but at the end of the day it will suddenly turn on you and bite your nose off. My old boss sometimes said: software bots are like lame dogs; eventually we have to put them down. Maybe a bit distasteful, but 100% accurate. There is no point to roulette bots whatsoever. But people will still buy them because they are deluded and think they are the exception to the rule. That somehow the bot will win them a few hundred $$$ every week.

As for BV, I have also played there in the past and it does seem that the algorithms used for real and fun mode are identical, but their randomness control is a gimmick I wouldn't put any trust in. They are licensed by a reputable gaming centre but they are not audited by a third party. I played there for a few months and then quit. It is easy for a casino to manipulate an RNG. In the gaming world, RNG roulette is by far the biggest scam going.

[super-roulette]

I have just seen it now

You are in FUN mode!

RNG usually ( I mean, always ) play different from FUN to REAL

I'm sorry but all your tests are useless now, you have to use in REAL mode ... it's the only way to see the true results.

The test results are still valid.

I have seen no noticeable difference whatsoever between fun and real mode playing no-zero roulette.

Matt

[thomasgrant]

For me, without trial, nobody will buy this bot ( excepted ThomasGrant  Wink ). I am personally interested by the bot, but I'll never spend $250 without a try before.

Well, yeah, why not.
I have not seen or tested a trial version.
Tiago put me onto this one.
So blame him if you wish.
I did ask Matt to send me a version to trial.
But since my opinions in this forum are apparently so bias.
That Matt sent it of to TwoCatt instead.
And that works fine for me.
As for the price.
Well it is not the cheapest bot I have seen.

I am sure there was a post in vls somewhere.
About a roulette service, that could provide accurate forecast of numbers.
Well, at least give you 80% of a chance.
And if I recall, the service charged some $200 a month.
Not sure who posted that link to the service.
Will have to take a look in the forum again.
Anyway, my point being.
That compared to other things out there.
$250 is not as bad as some other things.
I could mention another bot.
That sells for x amount.
Notice I did not give out the name of the bot.
Or tell how much it is.

Regardless.
As to people purchasing it.
Some will, some wont. So what.
Move on, next.

Based on what Tiago told me.
I am going to buy it.
And give it a go.
Win or lose.

No risk, no rewards.

[thomasgrant]

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