Holy Grail thou art a Holy Fail

[seykid29]

Hi all,

Im not trying to put down system/strategy developers.But I now really feel,like many rehash, systems are.
We do..tracking or not..progression/flat bet...line..odd.even/colour..dozen..column..sector..sleepers..law of third.Is it not these what constitute most systems.and the funny thing as each spin is independent,many of us,when the ball approach our number we will it to drop inFor example,I find the popular WINKEL method GUT interesting,but too much for me.But when I look profoundly I see law of third/reverse law of third  at play.Then again maybe im wrong.But now my encouraging side firmly accept what one guy said,again I repeat playing trend/cycle/pattern  or dealer signature seems the way.But my doubting side quote from a guys' site ''Roulette is a random event game that appears to have patterns. 

The reality is that it creates "random patterns." (hot and cold spots)  If you try to predict the random patterns, you will end up losing!

ROULETTE SECRET:  The numbers that hit are never balanced.  Therefore, with 20, 30, or 50 spins, etc; there will always be one section of the table that hits more than another.   This section is never consistent"

Seykid.

[VLSroulette]

The numbers that hit are never balanced.

...are more likely ( ) not balanced... -There isn't a "never" in roulette. When the "system poopers" want to bust something, they simply run a bruteforce program until they can find whatever it is that break it, just to say: "TOLD YOU!".

Yes, anything is possible in this game, specially when you bruteforce and look for that "impossible" session with a magnifying glass.

Reality versus theory is always a conflicting topic.

Ask a math guru if 50, 100 or 1000 reds in a row are likely to show at roulette, he will tell you ABSOLUTELY YES, as likely as any other 50, 100 or 1000-spin sequence.

Ask the actual casino player that goes every night to face the table if 50, 100 or 1000 reds in a row are likely to show and he will doubt anything past the 30-35 range... and maybe say scratching 40 is possible as a once in a lifetime event, but he will ensure you 50 won't be seen at the casino less 100 and even the least a thousand.

See; that is the difference between the theorist and the actual player. One knows what COULD happen, and the other experiences at the casino what actually happens.

Therefore, with 20, 30, or 50 spins, etc; there will always be one section of the table that hits more than another.   This section is never consistent"

I agree. The long term is more likely shaped by the sum of many short-term imbalances.

It is like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

If they were to stay getting hits, then a biased wheel would be in place. So there are two forces in game: the short-term imbalance and the long-term balance. They bigger more-balanced picture is "painted" by all of those imbalances gathered together. This is one of roulette's paradoxes, the Chaos that when you sum together brings order.

So the only way to go with this ever-changing game is approaching it per session and hunt that section that is never consistent, being malleable as the game progresses and never be stuck with a "favorite section"; but you know that already, don't you?  

[VLSroulette]

we can t take any advantage of this...

Just like Obama said: Yes, we can.

I'll take being there after 30 reds in a row to bet with 10-step martingale that it won't go to 40 reds in a row for the session...

But sadly, this is one of those SITUATIONAL events, which you can only bet when they happen in front of you only; you just can't "will" them to happen, but shall you experience it, sure you can be prepared and know how to take advantage of it.

I believe 40 in a row of the same color hasn't been recorded AT THE CASINO (forget about bruteforcing computer simulations just to prove me wrong). So to make me lose, a new REAL-LIFE world record has to be set. I can take it.

[VLSroulette]

By the way, for more betting opportunities, doing it "a la gizmotron" way would be better. This means, betting sooner for it to continue, doesn't matter if it gets to 30 or not...

I'll also would gladly take a series of 15-20 in a row if I'm wagering a positive explosive progression taking it after 6...

[seykid29]

I believe 40 in a row of the same color hasn't been recorded AT THE CASINO

Lucky us yes,but sadly that is another matter if it does..

[seykid29]

I find covering large portion of the wheel/table appopriate,with bets to help lower losses and those to increase our gain,ok you may ask what if a number not covered repeat 3 times,as it does..well as for me after 2 repeat same number and i dont have..i cool off,no need to go out on revenge on it only to find it becomes a sleeper.But what about 100% table strategy..umm..guess that is another thing.

[GARNabby]

Ask a math guru if 50, 100 or 1000 reds in a row are likely to show at roulette, he will tell you ABSOLUTELY YES, as likely as any other 50, 100 or 1000-spin sequence.

Ask the actual casino player that goes every night to face the table if 50, 100 or 1000 reds in a row are likely to show and he will doubt anything past the 30-35 range... and maybe say scratching 40 is possible as a once in a lifetime event, but he will ensure you 50 won't be seen at the casino less 100 and even the least a thousand.

See; that is the difference between the theorist and the actual player. One knows what COULD happen, and the other experiences at the casino what actually happens.

The mathameticians can only only so much.  Others are always free to choose to misinterpret/twist that around into something else.

The problem with the above reasoning is that none of the players (at the table) will ever encounter most of the other possible combinations of outcomes either.  That one sequence of outcomes is "as likely as another" doesn't mean any one of those alone is "likely", noticeable... or significant in any way.

Maybe it's the majority of the (non-math) "players" who don't know of what they speak?  But the thread,  nolinks://vlsroulette.com/roulette-and-gambling-framework/central-limit-theorem/ , is correct... what "could happen" is what "actually does happen".

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[Bo0Merang]

 Chaos that when you sum together brings order.  i have issue with  this  and quiet  big last couple weeks im trying improoving myself but i still get 30 spin missing on  the final...its killing me frustrated me and im realy pissed of to much may i look wrong way.the reason is that i do  not want spend hole time on table i mean more then 300 spins it happens me that i go home  with no loss no win just for this and stat happenning  more and more. when  the small change come its nothing happening even reverse way th.f

[GARNabby]

If you answered "because I'm smart and clever and have a PHD, you get shot up far in the sky and land in the pit of doom.

Very true... but only as often as anyone else with any other attribute or material-possession.

Doing one thing well doesn't necessarily translate to another thing, but everything is connected in some way to some degree.  (No one can do only one thing well; no one can do everything well.)



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[GARNabby]

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