Hi All,
Ok, This will be the process.
Anybody who wishes to tip on Australian or NZ racing can do so. I will place $10 of my own money (which I have won from the TAB anyway) on each tip for the win. All winnings will go to a local Charity.
- Tip one horse per Sat**day. Your "BEST BET' for the day!
Place your tips here by 10.00am Sat**day morning. The more tipsters the merrier.
I will start with Roshill R7 - No.8 Sunday Joy to win 1st up!
a good start. keep them coming
Thanks pins. Only paid $2.90, but still a winner.
Hi Guys
This is probably the wrong thread but I wonder if someone might be able to help me with this one?
I've lost my copy of a system I found on the internet. It was a freebie written sometime ago by an Australian. The system was called early retirement or similar, it involved dividing the stakes by 6 and calculating the average odds of the horses you backed.
I believe it is quite a famous system and I'm hoping someone might be able to help me find it again on the internet.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Hi Grinder.
I think what Your referring to is either the Retirement Plan.
or
The 6 point Divisor plan that I use....below is the link to the Divisor.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/)
Your Friend.
Lanky.
Lanky, thanks very much.
I think your 6 point divisor plan could be the one it's certainly very similar to the one I had in mind. However I'm sure it had retirement something or other in the title.
You mentioned another one, do you know where I might find that one?
Hi grinder,
Try this nolinks://nolinks.grandstand.com.au/master.htm?nolinks://nolinks.grandstand.com.au/retirement.html (nolinks://nolinks.grandstand.com.au/master.htm?nolinks://nolinks.grandstand.com.au/retirement.html)
I think they stole the idea from Lanky!! >:D
That's the one Lohnro, thanks very much.
And if they stole it from Lanky, well, a pox on their houses I say, and may all their camels do.............whatever it is they shouldn't.
Hey Lonhro,
Any selection this week?
I like a well bred two year old colt in race 4 at Randwick, No:4 The Mikado.
Not suited by the heavy track last time, and reportedly working extra good on the track.
There is also at least one son of your namesake in the same race.
Cheers,[smiley=beer.gif]
Yep bombus, I was just about to post!!
I actually like like Dr Doutes R 7 @ Flemington. It should be about $12-$14 @ jump.
Don't forget, this is for charity. Every tipster that posts, I will place $10 on the selection and any winnings go to a local charity!!
Thanks for posting your tip bombus. Any more tipsters?
Hi Guys.
Well its been a Long time since I was out of the Racing Game.
But I have recieved a Tip on Hot Danish R9 @ Randwick.
Also Lonnie seeing this is for charity I will select the shortest priced Favouite that is in Either
Sydney,Melbourne & Bribane.
In the pre post Morning Market....You can select it from what-ever paper you get.
And I will Have the $10 on a place .....Lets see how long this wins for....You will be surprised I think.
Now that I have put the Mock on it...it will probably run over the Hot dog seller.........Lmao.
Your Mate.
Lanky.
Good onya mate!!
Hope it goes 10 in a row!
I'll give it a shot but I recommend not placing $10 on this as I suck as horses. :)
Vivaheart R5 @ Gold Coast.
I don't mind Shorty, we can all jag one every now and then!
Thanks for having a go!
OK bets have been placed. $10 on each -
Vivaheart R5 @ Gold Coast. Scratched
Hot Danish R9 @ Randwick.
Dr Doutes R 7 @ Flemington
4 at Randwick, No:4 The Mikado. Scratched
Wish 'em luck!
Hot Danish got up. :thumbsup:
Good stuff.
Yep Hot Danish won, and I got $3.90 on Betfair. That Lanky is a craft bugger, thanks mate!! ;)
So we have $38.00 profit, lets see how we go next week,
Hi Lonnie.
How did the shortest Price Favouite out of your paper go.
Did it run a Place ??
Lanky.
I will get back to you on that Lanky, seems as though the missus threw out the form guide!! >:D >:D
Lanky,
It seems both Sunday Joy and Theseo were both the shortest pre-post favorite's in the Newcastle Herald @ $2.20, and both paid $1.40 best tote.
Quote from: Lohnro on March 08, 2009, 07:40:55 AM
Lanky,
It seems both Sunday Joy and Theseo were both the shortest pre-post favorite's in the Newcastle Herald @ $2.20, and both paid $1.40 best tote.
OK Mate so in That case We would have picked the first one to race.
So the result would have been $10 A Place for a Return of $14 and a {+$4} Profit.
So We would be 1 from 1 so far Cobber.
Good Onya Mate.
Lanky
To those waiting with baited breath for the tips this weekend................you will have to wait till next weekend, I am away till Sunday night! :P
I will have my $10 bet tomorrow on:
Bird Dancer R3 No6 @ Caufield.
Remember, this is for Charity. Anybody can tip in this thread before 12.00 Sat**day morning (that is when I will be home from golf) and I will put $10 on their tips as well!
Hey Lanky - Your place bet tomorrow will be on Chakvetdaze R8 No 2 @ Doomben.
QuoteHey Lanky - Your place bet tomorrow will be on Chakvetdaze R8 No 2 @ Doomben.
Great Mate lets hope its 2 from 2 after the race.
Love to the Family Mate.
Lanky.
Sat**day Sydney Races
Better late than never ???
Group One Dubai Rosehill Guineas Caymans Sydney time 4.10
Thanks for having a go N9.
Since Bird Dancer was scratched, I like one at good odds in the last @ Newcastle, No 1 Senro Kisaki.
So today's bets are Caymans & Senro Kisaki $10 each.
one thing ill never learn in horse racing is why the jockey allows the horse to get so far back in the field if the horse was more handy might have figured in the placings or won even
Might stick with Caymans for the derby
Well we couldn't manage a winner today, but we still have $18 profit.
Maybe next week with a few more tipsters, we might snare a winner or 2! The Slipper is next week, so if a few people tip, I might box em in a trifecta as well.
Lanky,
Your place bet won well and paid $1.50 for the place.......Well done Mate! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Natural9 on March 28, 2009, 02:18:43 AM
one thing ill never learn in horse racing is why the jockey allows the horse to get so far back in the field if the horse was more handy might have figured in the placings or won even
Might stick with Caymans for the derby
Hey mate,
I am well over worrying about what the Jockey does in a race! When you place enough bets, you see jockeys on the other horses who ride so bad, they actually help your horse! But it hurts more when your hard earned is on a horse and it is slaughtered!
You may now get some value with Caymans in the derby! ;)
Quote from: Lohnro on March 28, 2009, 03:54:39 AM
Well we couldn't manage a winner today, but we still have $18 profit.
Maybe next week with a few more tipsters, we might snare a winner or 2! The Slipper is next week, so if a few people tip, I might box em in a trifecta as well.
Lanky,
Your place bet won well and paid $1.50 for the place.......Well done Mate! :thumbsup:
Lonnie....Thanks Mate.
What Price was it pre post Cobber ??
I will do/show you something here about the 2 of those selections if you can tell me that Mate.
Lanky
Ok mate, it was 2.25 pre post.
Hi Lohnro.
Here we go Cobber.
1st bet Pre post=$2.20=Fair Value a place =1.30>Paid $1.40= 33.33% Overs>>{33.33%}
2nd bet Pre post=$2.25=Fair Value a Place =1.31>Paid $1.50= 66.66% Overs +33%={99.99%} in 2 bets
Outlay $20 Expected Profit=$6 >Actual Profit= $9=50% overs on average per Bet.
Rounded up it matches perfectly My Mate , And we got 3 chances per Bet to Win.
Still some tricks in the Old Guy Mate. ;)
Lanky.
You got to love them low price favourites Lanky me mate lol 8) :o :thumbsup:
Quote from: Lanky on March 29, 2009, 09:40:24 PM
Hi Lohnro.
Here we go Cobber.
1st bet Pre post=$2.20=Fair Value a place =1.30>Paid $1.40= 33.33% Overs>>{33.33%}
2nd bet Pre post=$2.25=Fair Value a Place =1.31>Paid $1.50= 66.66% Overs +33%={99.99%} in 2 bets
Outlay $20 Expected Profit=$6 >Actual Profit= $9=50% overs on average per Bet.
Rounded up it matches perfectly My Mate , And we got 3 chances per Bet to Win.
Still some tricks in the Old Guy Mate. ;)
Lanky.
Good way too look at it mate! :thumbsup:
OK all you Aussie racing enthusiasts. There is a MASSIVE day's racing @ Rosehill tomorrow. How about you give your old mate Lonnie a tip so he can back a winner or 2. Just to re-cap one more time, let me know before 12.00 Sat**day morning, and I will put $10 on your tip to win. Any winnings we get will go to a charity, any losses, well, I will find where you live!! LOL........Only joking!!.........I have taken plenty from the TAB's over the last few years so I am not worried about a small loss. ;D Besides I am confident we will have a winning day, so join in!
My Best Bet for the day is in the BMW:
Roshill R5 - No. 1 Viewed
My best roughie in the race is Newport, so I will also put a $2 quinella on them as well.
Good Luck!
Finally found a sheet for the Aussie races. Since I see no action on the American tracks here thought I would join in with you all.
My pick for the day is:
Roshill R6 - No.5 King Mufhasa
Never picked Aussie races before, but do well in the states. Hopfully racing is racing.
Thanks for having a go Phishalot! It should pay well over $20 if it wins! ;)
BTW Lanky, your place bet today is Rosehill R1 No 3 Faulbonbridge. It is $2.20 pre-post.
QuoteBTW Lanky, your place bet today is Rosehill R1 No 3 Faulbonbridge. It is $2.20 pre-post.
Thanks Lonnie.
I have another Tip to Win Today Guys.
Race 5 @ Rosehill No. 2 All Silent.
Love to the Family Mate.
Lanky.
Cheers Lanky.
All bets are on $10 the win.
Rosehill R6 - No.5 King Mufhasa
Rosehill R5 - No.1 Viewed
Rosehill R6 - No.2 All Silent
+ $2 Quinella on Rosehill R5 - No.1&5.
Thanks to those who had a go!!
Oh K I am late again one tip tho
Rosehill race 5 No 2 Theseo View has been tipped as well
not bad @ $6.50 at the moment
Well not a great day today. No winners, and Lanky's horse ran 4th.
King Mufhasa gave us a good run for our money, lead up till the last 30mtrs at $15, but finished 3rd. Sorry Natural9 but I did not get your bet on.
We are now at -$14. Till next week.......................
Tough day's racing tomorrow!
My charity $10 will be on Randwick R8 No.1 Swiss Ace, he was 1st in the Oakleigh Plate and 2nd in the Newmarket and should be too good for these!
Anybody who wishes to have a go, let me know by 11.00 Sat**day morning.
Good luck!
Hey Lanky, if you want to keep going with your place bets, you will be on Eagle Farm R5 No.1 Chakvetdaze (again)!
Cheers,
Hi Mate.
No Problems Mate....I am still in.
The Salvation Army got a lot more then the $9 I had won previous to the loss Mate.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10 = Next Bet 20 << Edited
Love to the Family Mate.
Lanky.
Ok I am early for once
got a couple for what its worth
Randwick Race 5 Joe Blow
Randwick Australia Derby Race 7 Metal Bender
Thanks 9,
3 bets $10 each:
Randwick R5 No.15 Joe Blow
Randwick R7 No.2 Metal Bender
Randwick R8 No.1 Swiss Ace
Good Luck!
Well another poor day. ::)
We are at -$44.00, and will have another go on next week.
Quote from: Lohnro on April 10, 2009, 06:07:49 AMHey Lanky, if you want to keep going with your place bets, you will be on Eagle Farm R5 No.1 Chakvetdaze (again)!
Won again mate and paid $1.80 the place. :thumbsup:
Ok we try again for tomorrow i feel i am wasting Lohro's money :(
Randwick Sire's Produce Phelan Ready hope he feeling ready for a win ::) ;D
Hi all,
Time to recover some losses! This weeks bet will be @ Randwick R9 No.4 Emperator.
Any body wishing to join in can tip before 1.30 tomorrow.
Good Luck! :thumbsup:
Hi there Lohnro & punters.
I have two for tomorrow, is that OK? If only one, then the 1st.
Melbourne R6 No.2 Marching, good galloper down in class.
Sydney R8 No.8 Zapurple, fingers crossed here.
2 is fine bombus! :thumbsup:
Hey Lanky
Your bet for tomorrow is Eagle Farm R8 No.1 Zero Rock. Pre Post $2.10.
Good Luck!
p.s. FYI your bet last week Chakvetdaze was $2.25 pre post.
Quote from: Lohnro on April 17, 2009, 07:40:10 AM
Hey Lanky
Your bet for tomorrow is Eagle Farm R8 No.1 Zero Rock. Pre Post $2.10.
Good Luck!
p.s. FYI your bet last week Chakvetdaze was $2.25 pre post.
Hi Mate.
Well seeing that this thing is now starting to gain momentum I will explain more about it.
What We will be doing in betting a D'lambert for the 1st 3 lost Bets.
EG
10
20
30
Then if that loses We will put the 60 into a 6 point Divisor with a Win target of 7.
So it would be like this going into our Bet after the 3 losses.
-60+70=130
6/130=30 Rounded Up.
Now what we are going to do this time is that when we get the Dollars up a bit more to to say $40 to $60.
We are going to Pay for an Old Ladies Grocery Bill for Her.
If She likes She can write thank You on it and I will have that scanned to My Computer and then put Here on the Forum so that Everyone can see that its going to a Good Cause and be proud that its on behalf of All the Members.OK so Now so far its gone this way.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={$15} Profit so far towards Paying a grocery Bill for someone.
So Tomorrows bet supplied by Lohnro is.(as all can see I can't Rig the Bets because there supplied by Lonnie)
Eagle Farm R8 No.1 Zero Rock.[/b] Pre Post $2.10.
Good On Ya Mate.
Lanky.
OK fellas, we are on:
Melbourne R6 No.2 Marching
Sydney R8 No.8 Zapurple
Randwick R9 No.4 Emperator
All $10 the win.
Good luck!
Quote from: Lanky on April 17, 2009, 08:04:08 AM
Hi Mate.
Well seeing that this thing is now starting to gain momentum I will explain more about it.
What We will be doing in betting a D'lambert for the 1st 3 lost Bets.
EG
10
20
30
Then if that loses We will put the 60 into a 6 point Divisor with a Win target of 7.
So it would be like this going into our Bet after the 3 losses.
-60+70=130
6/130=30 Rounded Up.
Now what we are going to do this time is that when we get the Dollars up a bit more to to say $40 to $60.
We are going to Pay for an Old Ladies Grocery Bill for Her.
If She likes She can write thank You on it and I will have that scanned to My Computer and then put Here on the Forum so that Everyone can see that its going to a Good Cause and be proud that its on behalf of All the Members.
OK so Now so far its gone this way.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={$15} Profit so far towards Paying a grocery Bill for someone.
So Tomorrows bet supplied by Lohnro is.(as all can see I can't Rig the Bets because there supplied by Lonnie)
Eagle Farm R8 No.1 Zero Rock.[/b] Pre Post $2.10.
Good On Ya Mate.
Lanky.
You are a good man Lanky, lets hope we can get you some winners! ;)
Quote from: Lohnro on April 18, 2009, 01:56:07 AM
OK fellas, we are on:
Melbourne R6 No.2 Marching
Sydney R8 No.8 Zapurple
Randwick R9 No.4 Emperator
All $10 the win.
Good luck!
We managed 1 winner today with Emperator winning @ $4.90, so our running total stands at -$25.
Quote from: Lohnro on April 17, 2009, 07:40:10 AM
Hey Lanky
Your bet for tomorrow is Eagle Farm R8 No.1 Zero Rock. Pre Post $2.10.
Good Luck!
p.s. FYI your bet last week Chakvetdaze was $2.25 pre post.
Sorry mate, came a close 4th. :'(
Quote from: Natural9 on April 17, 2009, 05:34:53 AM
Ok we try again for tomorrow I feel I am wasting Lohnro's money :(
Randwick Sire's Produce Phelan Ready hope he feeling ready for a win ::) ;D
Jeez N9, sorry mate, I have only just seen your bet. :-[ :-[ :-[
Don't worry about picking a few losers mate, it is just a bit of fun. Have another go next week & maybe a few more tipsters will join in!
Hope the old lady likes home brand food at this rate. lol
^btw - very noble of you Lanky.
I have a phone number for a bloke that gives tips - usually picks well too. Problem is it means going to a payphone since my home phone and new mobile phone wont call 1900 numbers (costs about $4.00 on a payphone). I can PM it to Lohnro or Lanky if they want it - best not to make it public as I did pay $ for it a couple of years back.
I've been meaning to call it and put the tips here but Sat**day mornings are always so damn busy......
No time for gambling >:(
Roules
Quote from: bombus on April 17, 2009, 06:48:18 AM
Hi there Lohnro & punters.
I have two for tomorrow, is that OK? If only one, then the 1st.
Melbourne R6 No.2 Marching, good galloper down in class.
Sydney R8 No.8 Zapurple, fingers crossed here.
Oh dear, I got rolled this week. Sorry about that and I
WILL get in front before I'm done.
Good onya bombus, big week next week to bounce back! ;)
I have had a good tip in Adelaide this week, so this weeks bet will be at Morphetville R4 No.7 Get Set. :thumbsup:
I will be back @ 2.00 Sat arvo to put the bets on so if anybody wishes to have a bet, let me know by then. ;)
Good Luck!
Hey Lanky,
You bet this weeks is @ Randwick R1 No.1 Ortensia @$1.80 pre-post.
Good Luck!
Quote from: Lohnro on April 24, 2009, 06:20:24 AM
Hey Lanky,
You bet this weeks is @ Randwick R1 No.1 Ortensia @$1.80 pre-post.
Good Luck!
Great Mate I hope it wins by as far as You can kick a Football.
OK so Now so far its gone this way.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
bet 6=20 << Go baby and we can put the homebrand back as roules pointed out last week The Mongrel...hhahahahhah.
Lanky.
hahahaha Good onya mate!
Two picks tomorrow in Sydney
Sydney Cup Mr Tipsy
Champagne Stakes Manhatten Rain Maybe an omen bet >:D It pouring down outside at the moment
Rodney
Lets see how these do:
Melbourne
MR1 #3 X
MR2 #1 X
MR8 #4 X
Sydney
SR1 #3 1st @ $1.50
SR2 #4 X
SR4 #1 3rd @ $1.40
SR7 #12 4th
Well there were 3 bets today with 3 losers, so our running total is @ $-55.
roules - Thank for placing some tips mate :thumbsup: I would be happy placing some bets for you if you only place 1 or 2 bets. Are you backing them for the place or win? Randwick R1 No.3 Silently won and paid $8.60 win and $1.90 for the place so I am not sure where the $1.50 came from?
Lanky - Your bet Ortensia cam 2nd and paid $1.20 the place..........well done!
Hi Lohnro,
If I back them it's usually for a win and a place. I'm not too keen on backing something under $2.00 though, obviously that's where most of the winners are. Kinda sucks losing $5 when trying to make $1.
I can post more next week, you can look at their odds and decide if you want to back anything. It's hard to single out just 1 or 2 sometimes they all have a good run.
Cheers
Roules
Ps - actually there's one bet I don't mind making that involves betting alot to make a little. I've only done it once and not had the confidence to do it again although I won the first time.
I think it was called a "boxed trifecta" - where you can pick more than just the first three horses. It's well suited to races where there are just 5 or 6 horses left after scratchings etc. The bet costs a bit more but is almost a guaranteed win as you've picked say 6 out of the 6 horses to come in in any order.
Today the the two better ones (hopefully):
MR3 #3
SR7 #4
Ok Racing today just two picks
Sydney Race 3 No 1 Baci Amore
Mel Race 5 No 2 Pinnacles
Knowing my luck these horses will probably still be racing this time tomorrow
Sorry fellas, I had a few days up the coast in Forster! The forum was down before I left so I did not get any bets on!
Lanky,
For the record, your bet was Caufield R4 No. 2 BLACK CAVIAR It was $1.50 pre-post, won well and paid $1.20 place.
Cheers,
Quote from: Lohnro on May 03, 2009, 02:14:26 AM
Sorry fellas, I had a few days up the coast in Forster! The forum was down before I left so I did not get any bets on!
Lanky,
For the record, your bet was Caufield R4 No. 2 BLACK CAVIAR It was $1.50 pre-post, won well and paid $1.20 place.
Cheers,
Thanks Lonnie.
OK so Now so far its gone this way.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
bet 6=20 +4-10= Minus 6
bet 7=10 +2-6=Minus 4
bet 8=10 < next week
Lanky.
Quote from: Lohnro on May 03, 2009, 02:14:26 AM
Sorry fellas, I had a few days up the coast in Forster! The forum was down before I left so I did not get any bets on!
Lanky,
For the record, your bet was Caufield R4 No. 2 BLACK CAVIAR It was $1.50 pre-post, won well and paid $1.20 place.
Cheers,
How was Forster mate- nice part of the world up there
Forster is a great place N9, I have never seen water so blue as it is in Forster! It is a good place for the kids, and a couple of good golf courses as well! :thumbsup:
Hi all,
The Charity bet for tomorrow is Doomben R6 No.2 Orca.
Any body wishing to have a bet, let me know by 1.30 tomorrow. (Late tee-off!)
Lanky,
Your bet is on Flemington R2 No.1 Tempest Tost @$2.50 pre-post.
Good Luck!
My three "speculators" for today -
Doomben race 7 No. 4
Doomben race 8 No. 16
and Hawkesbury race 5 No.9
Wont pay much but Apache Cat @ Doomben today
Thanks fellas, OK we are on:
Doomben R6 No.2 Orca
Doomben race 7 No. 4 Swiss Ace & No.1 Apache Cat
Doomben race 8 No. 16 Keano
$10 each for the win.
I might let Hawkesbury race 5 No.9 go roules (probably a bad idea :skull:)
Good Luck!
Well, there was a few hard luck stories today........ :scratch_ones_head: Balance stands @ -$95.00
Lanky,
Tempest Tost managed 3rd, but with the scratchings there was ntd.
Always next week!
Cheers,
Quote from: Lohnro on May 09, 2009, 03:49:43 AM
Well, there was a few hard luck stories today........ :scratch_ones_head: Balance stands @ -$95.00
Lanky,
Tempest Tost managed 3rd, but with the scratchings there was ntd.
Always next week!
Cheers,
No Problem Lonnie My Mate.
I had $10 for the Lady as well on the Test between Australia and New Zealand with the total to be Over 43.5 Points.
It paid a $1.90 for the Win.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10 << $20 next week
Good OnYa My Mate.
Lanky.
Hey Lanky,
Yeah my horse racing tips arent going too well at the moment, Rugby League teams seem to be doing better than the GGs. I was more posting the horsie tips for interest sake than advice. I didn't post them all, but what I did have went: 1 scratched, 3 losers, a second place and a fourth place (useless anyway but still close).
OK fellas,
The Charity bet for tomorrow is Morphetville R8 No.10 Exedra.
Lanky,
Your place bet tomorrow is Flemington R6 No.1 Hissing Sid.
Good Luck!
QuoteLanky,
Your place bet tomorrow is Flemington R6 No.1 Hissing Sid.
Good Luck!
Thanks Mate.
Love to the Family Cobber.
Lanky.
Lohnro.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 +4
Bet 2=10 +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30 (=Hissing Sid was unplaced.)
Bet 11=30 << next week
Good OnYa My Mate.
Lanky.
Hi All,
Since we are not running that well atm, I have decided to cap the losses at -$200 and cap the wins at +$100 (if we get there). We are at -$105 with some catching up to do.
I have a good bet in the 10,000 @ Doomben R5 No.10 Danleigh.
Lanky,
Mate, your bet tomorrow is @ Caufield R4 No.1 Brazen Hussey @ $2.50 pre post.
Good Luck!
Will be an interesting weekend in racing given most of the east coast got hammered with rain the other day.
This photo was taken a few days ago on Kingsford Smith Dr - about a k or 2 from Doomben.
Lohnro.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 Won +4
Bet 2=10 Won +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 Won paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 Won +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 Won +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 Won on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30
Bet 11=30 lost-30= Minus 60 +70 Win target=130 Divided by 6
Bet 12=6/130=30=160 <<result to come next week.
Good OnYa My Mate.
Lanky.
We are defiantly "due" for a change of luck Lanky hahahha! We are at -$115.
Looks like they were lucky to race at all roules!
Off on Holidays again this w'end, will continue next week.
Cheers,
Hi All
For this weeks bet, I will have another go at Eagle Farm R5 No.2 Danleigh. $10 for the win.
Anybody wishing to have a bet, let me know tonight as I will be out all day tomorrow.
Lanky,
Your bet this week is Flemingtom R1 No. 7 Makeadreamcometrue @$1.80 pre-post.
If you want to add to your records last week it was Ortensia which won and paid @$1.50 for the place.
Good Luck,
QuoteIf you want to add to your records last week it was Ortensia which won and paid @$1.50 for the place.
Hi Lonnie ....Yes mate we will add as We go.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 Won +4
Bet 2=10 Won +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 Won paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 Won +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 Won +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 Won on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30
Bet 11=30 lost-30= Minus 60 +70 Win target=130 Divided by 6
Bet 12=6/130=30=160 Won-45 back=115 ..Div down to 5
I rang Lohnro Last Night and told Him I had backed the Panthers in the NRL game at $2.05 for the Lady
Bet 13=5/115=30=145 Won-60 back=85 ..Div down to 4 Panthers Paid $2.05
Bet 14=4/85=30=115 Won-39 back=76 Div down to 3
Good OnYa My Mate.
Lanky.
BR3 - 9
BR4 - 1
BR5 - 4
BR6 - 10
BR8 - 1
MR4 - 3
MR5 - 8
SR4 - 3
SR8 - 2
Can't really single any out here as the odds get so volatile close to race time. Maybe a day for a lucky dip?
2 firsts, a second and a third.......
Not bad roules, well done!
Danleigh came damn 2nd, was paying $12.00 for the win!! :angry2: :angry2: :angry2:
Lanky - your bet won easily and paid $1.30 the place........good stuff mate!
Hi all, come join in the fun......lol!!
This weeks bet will be on Rosehill R3 No.7 Skytrain
Lanky,
Your bet this week is also at Rosehill R1 No.1 Hewentwoosh
Good Luck!
QuoteLanky,
Your bet this week is also at Rosehill R1 No.1 Hewentwoosh
Lets hope the Bloody thing does just that.........Lmao.
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
Bit busy lately, so no bets today. We stand @ -$135.00.
Lanky,
Your bet last week lost, should of been called Hewenttooslow.....lol! I didn't even get a paper today, so we will pick it up next week.
QuoteLanky,
Your bet last week lost, should of been called Hewenttooslow.....lol! I didn't even get a paper today, so we will pick it up next week.
Hhahhahaahh @ Lonnie.....No Worries Mate...Wet tracks and small guys riding around racing tracks are never a good combination.......Lmao.
Love to the Family My Mate.
Lanky.
Hi all, Bets are open to all!!
This weeks bet is Sunshine Coast R9 No.1 Reggie @ about $10.
Hey Lanky,
Your bet this week is Sunshine Coast R6 No.1 High Roll'n Woman.
Good Luck!
We struck a winner with Reggie, paid $5.30, which gets our total back to $-93. :yahoo:
Your High Roll'n Woman would not go at all Lanky, did not run a place!
QuoteYour High Roll'n Woman would not go at all Lanky, did not run a place!
Betting on anything but Good tracks will do that mate.
We Better update everything mate.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 Won +4
Bet 2=10 Won +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 Won paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 Won +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 Won +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 Won on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30
Bet 11=30 lost-30= Minus 60 +70 Win target=130 Divided by 6
Bet 12=6/130=30=160 Won-45 back=115 ..Div down to 5
I rang Lohnro Last Night and told Him I had backed the Panthers in the NRL game at $2.05 for the Lady
Bet 13=5/115=30=145 Won-60 back=85 ..Div down to 4 Panthers Paid $2.05
Bet 14=4/85=30=115 Won-39 back=76 Div down to 3
Bet 15=3/76=25=101 Lost
Bet 16=3/101=35=145 Lost >>>Divisor up to 4
Bet 17=4/145=35=180 <>Result to come next week.
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
The "Charity" bet this week is:
Rosehill R6 No.4 Prince Braeman.
Lanky & I had a chat on the phone tonight, and we will change his bet. He may also add a 2nd bet using a different Pre-Post market. From now on, I will post his selections using the following rules: The shortest price Pre-Post favorite that is also a Unitab 100 Rater. I have had some success using the Unitab ratings, which are freely available on their site. So this should give us a strong place betting opportunity!
Good Luck!
Well, I went to all that trouble to post about Lanky's new place bet & forgot to place the bet!
It was Rosehill R3 No.2 African Prince, which came 3rd @ $1.40 the place. :good:
My bet ran terrible. We are now at $-103.
-$103.
That's not too bad.
I'm gonnna try & help turn that around next week.
:drinks:
Quote from: Lohnro on July 05, 2009, 06:31:48 AM
Well, I went to all that trouble to post about Lanky's new place bet & forgot to place the bet!
It was Rosehill R3 No.2 African Prince, which came 3rd @ $1.40 the place. :good:
My bet ran terrible. We are now at $-103.
We Better update everything mate.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 Won +4
Bet 2=10 Won +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 Won paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 Won +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 Won +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 Won on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30
Bet 11=30 lost-30= Minus 60 +70 Win target=130 Divided by 6
Bet 12=6/130=30=160 Won-45 back=115 ..Div down to 5
I rang Lohnro Last Night and told Him I had backed the Panthers in the NRL game at $2.05 for the Lady
Bet 13=5/115=30=145 Won-60 back=85 ..Div down to 4 Panthers Paid $2.05
Bet 14=4/85=30=115 Won-39 back=76 Div down to 3
Bet 15=3/76=25=101 Lost
Bet 16=3/101=35=145 Lost >>>Divisor up to 4
Bet 17=4/145=35=180 Won Paid $1.50-52=128 >div down to 3
Bet 18=3/128=45=173 Won Paid $1.40-63=110>div to 2/110 +safety break of 6/70=8/180=25 to bet and (140) Win target
Bet 19=8/180=25 <>next week
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
Hi All,
This weeks charity bet is @ Newcastle R7 No.5 Rambetica $10 the win.
Hey Lanky,
Your bet this week is @ Sandown R4 No.1 Swift Bay.
Good Luck!
Quote from: bombus on July 05, 2009, 08:18:22 AM
-$103.
That's not too bad.
I'm gonnna try & help turn that around next week.
:drinks:
Good onya bombus, let me know by 11.00 so I can get the bet on mate.
Cheers,
QuoteHey Lanky,
Your bet this week is @ Sandown R4 No.1 Swift Bay.
Good Luck!
Thanks Mate We had $25 on Souths tonight @$1.55 for the Lady.
Good OnYa Mate.
Lanky.
Here's hoping...
Randwick R3 No.3 Tollemache.
We are on bombus.........!
We Better update everything mate.
So far it has all gone like this.
Bet 1=10 Won +4
Bet 2=10 Won +5+4={9} PP
Bet 3=10 lost=Minus 10
Bet 4=20 Won paid$1.80 so 36 back-30 outlay=+6+9={+$15} Profit so far.
Bet 5=10 lost
Bet 6=20 Won +4-10= Minus 6
Bet 7=10 Won +2-6=Minus 4
Bet 8=10 Won on the Test+9-4=+5+15={+20} Profit so far.
Bet 9=10 lost
Bet 10=20 lost -10= Minus 30
Bet 11=30 lost-30= Minus 60 +70 Win target=130 Divided by 6
Bet 12=6/130=30=160 Won-45 back=115 ..Div down to 5
I rang Lohnro Last Night and told Him I had backed the Panthers in the NRL game at $2.05 for the Lady
Bet 13=5/115=30=145 Won-60 back=85 ..Div down to 4 Panthers Paid $2.05
Bet 14=4/85=30=115 Won-39 back=76 Div down to 3
Bet 15=3/76=25=101 Lost
Bet 16=3/101=35=145 Lost >>>Divisor up to 4
Bet 17=4/145=35=180 Won Paid $1.50-52=128 >div down to 3
Bet 18=3/128=45=173 Won Paid $1.40-63=110>div to 2/110 +safety break of 6/70=8/180=25 to bet and (140) Win target
Bet 19=8/180=25=205(South's)Won paid $1.55-39=166 >>Div down to 7
Bet 20=7/166=25=191(Blues-Lohnro knew about this bet I rang Him) Won paid $2.75-69=122 Less win target of 140 = +18+20 carry over profit= {$38} Profit so far for the Lady.
Good On-Ya Mate.
Lanky.
Good stuff mate!
Although we did not have a good weekend. :( Your bet was scratched, bombus and I could not pick a winner either. We are at -$123 atm.
Cheers,
Hi all,
This weeks bet is @ Rosehill R4 No.7 Voice Coach. Should be around the $7 mark. Hey bombus, if you want a bet mate, let me know by about 12.00.
Lanky,
Your bet this week is @ Caufield R1 No.3 Inkster.
Good Luck!
I can't split these two...
Caulfield R3 No. 1 Benelli :unsure: Morphettville R2 No. 2 Adebayor
No worries bombus, I will back both of em! :thumbsup:
Nice day today!!
bombus got a nice winner with Benelli @ $2.90 - Well done mate! :thumbsup:
I got a winner with Voice Coach @ $7.60
This gets us back to -$38, there is hope for us yet....hahahha
And young Lanky's bet Inkster won and paid $1.40 for the place!
Hi Lonnie.
{$38} Profit so far for the Lady.
Bet 21=10 Won Pd $1.85= +9+38={47} Profit
Bet 22=10 Won Pd $1.40= +4+47={51} Profit
Mission Accomplished Now Lonnie My Mate.
I will be on the lookout to buy some Meat or Groceries for an Elderly Lady and when I do I will try and get someone to scan it (as I don't have one) and I will show it here on the Forum
If I can't I will mail You the receipt and You can scan it.(I hope)
Love to the Family Mate.
Lanky.
Quote from: Lanky on July 18, 2009, 07:19:46 AMMission Accomplished Now Lonnie My Mate.
I will be on the lookout to buy some Meat or Groceries for an Elderly Lady
You are a good man Lanky!
Cool McCool...
Let's turn this around with lots more winners... it's for charity!
More tipsters might help...C'mon!
Are you betting this week Lohnro?
If so, I like Doomben R5 No.2 Fiori
Hey bombus,
Yeah mate, I like one at odds tomorrow Rosehill R4 No.9 Umpire Bird.
Bit of a topical tip as well, since we are about to bring home the ashes soon!! :good: :good:
Anybody is welcome to place some tips, I will be able to get the best on just after lunch tomorrow so let me know.
Good Luck!
No bikkies today...................-$58.
Ok, I'm currently down -3.1 units, and starting to look pretty crap at this...
Oh well, here's another...
Doomben R2 No.3 Lilleelavee
No sweat bombus, a long way to go mate. Thanks for having a go.
This weeks bet is a topical tip from the great Stallion himself Randwick R6 No.10 O'Lohnro
Good Luck!
No luck today...............a 3rd & 2nd which unfortunately doesn't pay. :diablo:
Hi all,
Special this week at good odds - Rosehill R3 No.6 Cousin Wal should be about $12.00.
Bombus, N9, pins??? Let me know before 1.00 when I get back from golf & I will put the bets on!!
Cheers fellas,
Good Luck!!
p.s. I like Trusting in the Golden Rose..........
Hey, Lohnro.
I must admit I am struggling with the one pick, so I'm putting up two this week.
Feel free to ban me from this thread if I keep crapping out too much longer...
Doomben R5 No.1 King Hunter
Doomben R7 No.3 Sommersea Drive
Cheers :drinks:
Hey Bombus, well done champ! With your winner @ $5.40 we now stand at -$54, this is a bit of a labor of love, but we will get there in the end!
Quote from: Lohnro on August 29, 2009, 06:51:55 AM
...this is a bit of a labor of love, but we will get there in the end!
I certainly hope so Lohnro...
Hey, what's happened with Lanky's pre post favourite place selections?
Quote from: bombus on August 29, 2009, 10:24:39 AMHey, what's happened with Lanky's pre post favourite place selections?
Lanky reached is goal with his bets. I actually haven't talked to him to see if he wanted to continue. If he does, we may have to improve his bet selection a bit and I have a few ideas! :thumbsup:
Waddya say Lanky?
Oops, two again...
Randwick R3 No.2 Offhanded This 3yo colts sire needs no introduction here.
Eagle Farm R2 No.3 Southerly Impact They plonked some decent late money on this one last start.
Cheers :drinks:
No worries bombus.
I like Rosehill R3 No.1 Onemorenomore. I have no problems betting 2 is the same race!
Good Luck!
Hi Mates.
QuoteI have no problems betting 2 is the same race!
Yep its better then Betting each-way , Providing You find the Winner.
And it gives the Possibility to Dutch Bet as well.
Lanky.[/color]
Nice work bombus!!! :angel:
With your $5 winner we have clawed back to $-34
:good:
Hey Lohnro,
I've noticed a few of our losing selections went on to win their next race start...
ie, O'Lohnro $2.10, Lilleelavee $14.40.
If I get the time over the coming weeks, I'll start keeping a book on all the tipped horses and follow them through 1 or 2 more race starts, and see where it leads.
I'll start from this week with, Onemorenomore, and Offhanded.
Cheers :drinks:
Hi.
I'll play by the rules this week with just the one selection.
Eagle Farm R8 No.3 Citiwyse Nice enough horse going for three wins on the trot.
goodonya bombus!
I really like Rosehill R8 No.1 Cousin Wal. Should be a good price again around the $5-$6 mark!
Good Luck!
Quote from: Lohnro on September 11, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
goodonya bombus!
I really like Rosehill R8 No.1 Cousin Wal. Should be a good price again around the $5-$6 mark!
Good Luck!
Hi Lohnro.
You tipped him two weeks back and this is his next start, so he goes in my new "black book" for tomorrow.
Cheers.
Mooney Valley Race 2.
5. Genuine Stunner (Place)
Don't actually put this bet down Lohnro, I don't want you to lose $10 on my behalf. I'd prefer to lose my own money thanks. :)
Hey Shorty,
Don't worry about it mate. My normal betting unit is 5 times that, I have already written off 4 bets ($200), from my spreadsheet to do this. I have up to 80 bets a day on a Sat**day so if I win or lose this $200 it is of no consequence mate, it is already written off!!
So I have no problem betting your horse mate, the more tipsters the merrier. Who knows, we may get lucky. If we don't.....well, we had some fun.
Cheers,
Wipeout!
Well I guess that makes us the three stooges this week. lol.
Can I play this week?
Ok...
Caulfield R5 No.6 Trusting
Rosehill R6 No.4 Hume
Some good races tomorrow to make up for our wipeout last week!!
I really like the NSW horse Trusting to take the cash @ Caufield as well Bombus, so I will double our wager on him!
Don't be shy Shorty, N9!
Good Luck!
I'll give you two. :)
Gold Coast R5 - Golden Balls. (W)
Kembla Grange R2 - Elusive Gift. (P)
Quote from: Shorty on September 18, 2009, 01:51:52 PM
I'll give you two. :)
Gold Coast R5 - Golden Balls. (W)
Kembla Grange R2 - Elusive Gift. (P)
Hi Shorty My Mate.
That Elusive Gift would be to have Golden Balls Mate.
Hhahhahahhah...Lmao.
Lanky.
Well it was a pretty unlucky day!
We had 3 2nd's and our double bet on Trusting was one of 'em!!
We sit at -$114.
Hi all,
I am going against the grain today and backing against Racing To Win. I think there is value in Rabdwick R6 No.4 Black Piranha. We should get around $6.50.
Good Luck!
You're a brave man Lohnro.
It looks like a very strong day for favourites at Randwick today with horses like Denman, Racing To Win, Voice Coach, and Madame Pedrille.
So I'm looking to the more open race 5 for my pick.
Randwick R5 No.5 McClintock.
I might even throw $5 on the quadrella adding your pick in the 6th, and the two last fav's.
Good luck today.
Quote from: bombus on September 25, 2009, 08:20:26 PMYou're a brave man Lohnro.
hahahha you may be calling me something different in a few hours!!
Nice work again bombus, you are keeping the team together! :thumbsup:
Balance is -87.
Hey all,
I really like one at BIG odds tomorrow:
Caufield R5 No.4 Douro Valley - won this race last year at big odds and the same type of suspects are running again. Whobe should be the main danger. Should be $30-$40!
Every bet so far has been for the win, and to try to get a return I will break my own rules tomorrow and I will back this one $5 EW.
Good Luck!
You're a brave man Lohnro... (deja vous), can't resist those odds, I'm on!
This tipping 1 horse business is really quite stressful, it's a whole lot harder than putting up half a dozen good chances.
The wet track is a worry, but I'll cut through my half a dozen and go with...
Rosehill R2 No.2 El Sonador
Well hello gemtleman. its friday night and racing beckons. thanks for the invite over. Im a pretty avaerage judge so dont get to excited. I get the odd tip though and follow a guy who is a real good judge. His horses often go round at cricket score odds though so if he stabbs a few in a year, your laughing. He tipped that thing in syd last week that paid 50 dollars. the kiwi horse. anyway he says sydney race 7 innings e/w and brisbane race 7 Citiwise e/w and include Eddie rapido in any exotics, which will be big odds but it hasnt run for a month. Ok well good luck fellas, im of the the brisbane treasury casino. :yahoo:
I gotta go with Racing To Win @ Caulfield R6.
Hi fellas, just to re-cap, these are the bets:
Racing To Win @ Caulfield R6 @$10 win
sydney race 7 innings e/w @$5 EW
brisbane race 7 Citiwise e/w @$5 EW
Rosehill R2 No.2 El Sonador @$10 win
Caufield R5 No.4 Douro Valley @$5 EW
Thanks fellas, these are now on!
Good Luck!
Innings and Citywise are scratched.
LOL well there you go. money back. rippa
hahahha good start robski!!
My BIG tip ran last, and we could not snag another winner.
-$117
Hey Lohnro, you better tell me how to have 200 bets in a day. Your up to something and i feel im missing out. Backed a horse in country vic that looked like it won by half a length and ran second. must be a terribe angle at pakenham
I'll PM you mate.
Hey Fellas,
It is a big day tomorrow with the running of the Caufield Cup.
My bet is in the Cup R8 No.9 Predatory Pricer.
Good Luck!
Not a chance mate - Kirkless.
Good luck mate, we are on both! :thumbsup:
Not the best day.
-$137
Let's not talk about it.
Big day in Melbourne tomorrow with lots of interest, but while all eyes have turned south, I'll sneak in to Rosehill for my pick.
Rosehill R5 No.8 Encosta Tszyu
If I had to pick one in Melbourne it would be Viking Legend in the AAMI Vase, R5.
If I had to pick one in the Cox Plate it would be Manhattan Rain for a place.
Thanks bombus,
This week we are on Mooney Valley R7 No.14 Miss Darcey.
Good Luck!
damm, was gonna post innings which was scratched from 2 weeks ago but saluted yesterday at 17/1. to be fair, the other horse was citiwise which has been beaton since the scrtaching. oh well. broke my leg and cant get from couch to computer that easy. would have helped your coffers no end. steve
Jeez mate, that would have been nice about 30hrs ago!
Instead we are at -$157.
and to make matters worse, had 18 missed calls from a friend who owns the last winner at sunshine coast today, when i got back to him, got the dreaded did you back it, did you back it. had 200 ew last sunday and today i cant get out of my own way. SPEWWWWWW. will post a winner soon i hope.
Quote from: Lohnro on October 25, 2009, 04:39:37 AM
Instead we are at -$157.
I apologise for my part in that.
No worries bombus, I have come back from worse before mate!
Hi all,
We need a winner! (Sorry for stating the obvious! hahahha) I like one at odds in the Derby Flemington R6 No.1 Onemorenomore.
Good Luck!
Your wish is my command... (https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr351%2Fskakus%2Fanimated_genie.gif&hash=4fbed2e9a5ba7b1b40a8ee860534b4d0fa471f4f) Flemington R8 No.4 News Alert (Go the Gauch!)
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Good luck with your pick for tomorrow Lohnro.
His stablemate (Gathering) ran a good second to the Cox Plate winner three starts back, so maybe there is a value quinella there... $5 goes on for me!
morning. my man says mr4 no 11 drumbeats. currently 23 dollars. theory being that horses that break trackrecords aka rangirangdoo dont win there next start and this horse has the form around that good horse.
was gonna say melb race 2 hume but track is dead and he needs good surface so ill swap to mr 4 no 13 paprika. good first run in melbourne 4th to a apache cat and the like, and was of her food and water all week. Horse is fine now so a great run wouldnt surprise.
happy punting steve. :yahoo:
hahahha bombus, goodonya mate! Thanks for having a go Steve.
This could be the last hurrah.
We are on:
Onemorenomore
News Alert
drumbeats
paprika
Give 'em strength.................
Well, I have to pull the pin on this little experiment. We finished at -$197. Thanks to all who had a go! :agree:
I will keep this thread going though to post tips and of course anybody is free to join in, saves cluttering up this section.
Take care,
:dance1: :dance1: :dance1:
Aww, that's too bad Lohnro.
I guess it's not the result we hoped for.
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For the record, I just went over the thread for all my selections, and I've actually finished $9.00 in front!
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sorry lohnro for those crap tips. good luck in the future. steve
Hey Steve, no worries mate. I don't mind backing 20 losers to get a 25/1 winner!
That seems to be a good deal for me. I can live with that every day by the way. (https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinkss%3A%2F%2Fimagicon.info%2Fcat%2F10-3%2Fsmile2.png&hash=471c4bfde9a8eaaecc106f26429c893406565ad6)