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What Does a Trend Look Like?

Started by gizmotron, January 14, 2009, 05:43:32 PM

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gizmotron

I'm beginning to guess that things like "symmetry" are a complete mystery to most. So the same probably applies to recognizing swarms and data packets that tend to swarm in trends. To me, my experience is the internet itself. Information is sent as packeted data over the net. Once a packet is received another packet is sent until it is completely received. Randomness sometimes occurs in packets of symmetrically shaped patterns and they can run in swarms at times. Swarms have a dominance to them like trends. I use my cognitive skills to see and remember figure formations. I use the terms swarms and packets because they already exist in other forms. Relating is only a process that becomes more labored by the generalized nature of communication. I have assumed way too much for the last year.

Herb

Can you provide us with an example as to how you would use it with a random roulette game.?


bliss

Quote from: HerbIn a random game of roulette, there aren't any trends.

Herb, you're such a party-pooper. :)

bliss

Given a choice at roulette of betting with a trend or against a trend, it is probably best to bet with a trend.

Why? Because there is a slight -- an extremely, extremely slight -- possibility that the reason a trend has developed is due to the physical mechanism or the dealer's influence. If this is so, the trend will tend to continue.


- Frank Scoblete nolinks://scoblete.casinocitytimes.com/articles/5942.html

It's not so easy to rationalize why you should follow a perceived trend on the outside bets though.

Arteinvivo

Quote from: Bliss on January 16, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
It's not so easy to rationalize why you should follow a perceived trend on the outside bets though.

Let's suppose the cleaning services had used a sticky product to clean the wheel but use one product for the Red colors and needed to change product for the Black colors. We never know...  ;D

Herb

Great point Arte!

I think Gizmotron is talking about a different kind of trend maybe?

gizmotron

Quote from: Herb on January 16, 2009, 05:32:00 AM
Can you provide us with an example as to how you would use it with a random roulette game.?

What would be the point? You don't believe that anyone can win more than they will lose. I'll give you this though. If a trend exists only in your imagination does it still exist? Perhaps you know about the clustering illusion? Why can't you bet on the illusion of trends and patterns? If a person can see a dragon or a sailing ship in a cloud then what is to prevent anyone from seeing formations in a stream of past spins. There is no mathematical rule that predicts that 10 reds in a row must end on the 5th spin going into it.

If you are smart enough to predict a spin from VB then you are smart enough to imagine an example for your self.

Herb

Gizmo,

Give us an idea as to what you mean.  I'm not here to smash your idea.  I'm curious about what it is.. 

Thanks. :)

-Herb

gizmotron

Quote from: Herb on January 16, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
Gizmo,

Give us an idea as to what you mean.  I'm not here to smash your idea.  I'm curious about what it is.. 

Thanks. :)

-Herb

OK. If I see a twelve run of reds and I start to bet it on spin five then I'm just guessing that a streak might be starting. If I lose that bet then it didn't start. If I win that bet then it did start. I can now sit back and collect all eight before I finally lose one.  Now if I bet the lowest amount on all non trending spins and I bet very large on all tests of trend following I have an MM advantage over the whole game. I also have my growing pile to see if it is working. I decide when to back off and get out. That's an advantage too.

Arteinvivo

QuoteNow if I bet the lowest amount on all non trending spins and I bet very large on all tests of trend following I have an MM advantage over the whole game

We call this using a positive progression. I do this regularly in the Forex market.

Arteinvivo


gizmotron

Quote from: Arteinvivo on January 16, 2009, 06:21:48 PM
We call this using a positive progression. I do this regularly in the Forex market.

This goes to the terminology issue once again. To me a progression is something that graduates several times with many intervals. What I do is two flat values, high, or low. It's only one interval. Is a progression really a progression if it has only two values that are not trigger or rule based in nature. I don't think so. So what do you call this?

J.Daniels


Arteinvivo

Quote from: J.Daniels on January 17, 2009, 12:28:14 AM
I call it UP and DOWN  :thumbsup:

Daniels, Gizmo needs when things look more complicated than they are so Up/Down is not complex enough for him to understand.

gizmotron

Quote from: Arteinvivo on January 17, 2009, 12:40:56 AM
Daniels, Gizmo needs when things look more complicated than they are so Up/Down is not complex enough for him to understand.

I'm happy to discuss gambling in simplistic and generic terms so that you can pretend to communicate. I win. I win, I win, and I won today in fact. I used up and down. That's how I did it.  Well, I'm glad everyone understands trends now. If you have a full understanding of ups and downs then you can win too.

Let's see, this deserves a happy face --  :o  ;D  :D

gizmotron

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