Rules for THE ZONE

[SpensX]

Like any other systems even worse .
Usually when i tested some systems ,all of them fail after 2000-3000 spins
But gues what -i just pick a random 100 numbers sequenses from laroulette.it archive( 4M real spins ) and this system gave me a result minus 19 points.
It is waste of time

[Rheti]

Reached a level of 40.000  spins.. No Five... Still curious when I find it.

Breakdown:

Wins 3952

1 loss  660
2 loss  124
3 loss    36
4 loss      6

[Number Six]

Rheti, here is some data I have from a long simulation of the zone you might find interesting.

In all there were 59206 simulated progression games with 47054 wins - 79.5% strike rate.

66 times the sim won on the fourth game

9 times won on the fifth game

3 times won on the sixth game

The strike rate of the fourth game, then, is 84.6%, slightly above the expected. A few more trials would bring it down to 79%. It only has a supreme strike rate in Fender's Blubber-World.

[Rheti]

Rheti, here is some data I have from a long simulation of the zone you might find interesting.

In all there were 59206 simulated progression games with 47054 wins - 79.5% strike rate.

66 times the sim won on the fourth game

9 times won on the fifth game

3 times won on the sixth game

The strike rate of the fourth game, then, is 84.6%, slightly above the expected. A few more trials would bring it down to 79%. It only has a supreme strike rate in Fender's Blubber-World.

Six thanks...

still some questions to you : Possible to have the complete breakdown.

like 1 loss-2 loss..

66 times won on the fourth game means in fact a loss of three ?
9 times won on the fifth game means in fact a loss of four ?
6 times won on the sixth game means in fact a loss of five ?

thanks in advance

[Number Six]

Sorry, I don't have those figures from the simulation I did. Only 3, 4, 5, and 6+. If you really want them I can run the simulation again, it doesn't take long but I can't do it yet.

However, you should be able to get close to the numbers with some extrapolation.

1 loss: 9600
2 loss: 1984
3 loss: 318
4 loss: 66
5 loss: 9
6 loss: 3

This should be about right. It's not exactly bang on, though.

[Rheti]

Thnks Six something like this:

                        
rate   losses:         % of total         total runs:   spins
               wins:         
5.7   1   8060   8060   13.61%            
4.4   2   1403   2807   2.37%            
4.7   3     318      953   0.54%            
7.3   4      67             269   0.11%            
3.0   5       9              46           0.02%            
-----   6       3            18           0.01%            
                        
         12152      47054      59206   473652
         20.5%      79.5%         

[Number Six]

Rheti, comprehensive stats:-

Games: 102205
Wins: 81182
Lost: 21023
Win Rate: 79.43%

Long Winning Streak: 47 [average: 27]
Long Losing Steak: 6

[table=,]
Loss,Total,% of Games
1,16828,16.465%
2,3487,3.412%
3,562,0.550%,
4,117,0.114%
5,25,0.024%
6,4,0.004%
[/table]

Not sure exactly how many spins were involved with this one. A lot, but less than a million.

[Rheti]

Rheti, comprehensive stats:-

Games: 102205
Wins: 81182
Lost: 21023
Win Rate: 79.43%

Long Winning Streak: 47 [average: 27]
Long Losing Steak: 6

[table=,]
Loss,Total,% of Games
1,16828,16.465%
2,3487,3.412%
3,562,0.550%,
4,117,0.114%
5,25,0.024%
6,4,0.004%
[/table]

Not sure exactly how many spins were involved with this one. A lot, but less than a million.

Again Six thanks..

But in my opinion your losses in y'r latest stats. are higher.

for instance 4 losses of 6 =   24 losses
--------------25 losses 0f 5 = 125 losses

etc..

[Rheti]

Six,

I was quite successful with the Evaluation Phase and the Zone last months..

In other words "Randomness" was willing.

I do all the systems in Excel and mostly by hand..

I have an idea, but rather time consuming..so maybe you are willing to help me.

the Evaluation phase of the zone is like this:

spin 1 d1
spin 2 d1
spin 3 d2

next bet d1+d2 = 24/37 = 65% chance.

if right I call it a W if not an L.

the Zone is as usual after qualification a progression of four for the other dozen.

if right I call it a W if not an L.

so in fact you have combinations like WW-WL-LW-LL.

for the next spins you do the same.

you can evaluate now with these combinations the next bets.

like : WW first cycle--- Wl next cycle. as an example.

so you can predict 8 movements.

evaluation to the next zone and the zone to the  next evaluation within these 4 variables.

curious to know in the long run what will be the percentages.

The idea: that some variables have a lower strike rate (do'nt bet) and other higher (Bet)
as an average of course it's negative.

Possible to evaluate this with y'r number cruncher-system ?

[Number Six]

Again Six thanks..

But in my opinion your losses in y'r latest stats. are higher.

for instance 4 losses of 6 =   24 losses
--------------25 losses 0f 5 = 125 losses

etc..

Rheti, the losses are all in terms of progression games, not bets. I have no idea how many total bets were placed and how many won in the simulation. I'd say it's around 255,000 placed with 84,150 wins.

I'll have a look at the other thing later today. Maybe I can do a spreadsheet in excel. In truth, though, the hit rate on two dozens will always be 65% no matter what you do. The variance has to be lowered in order for the bet to become practical. 

[Rheti]

Rheti, the losses are all in terms of progression games, not bets. I have no idea how many total bets were placed and how many won in the simulation. I'd say it's around 255,000 placed with 84,150 wins.

I'll have a look at the other thing later today. Maybe I can do a spreadsheet in excel. In truth, though, the hit rate on two dozens will always be 65% no matter what you do. The variance has to be lowered in order for the bet to become practical. 

Sorry to disturb you,Six, but this not exactly what I was meaning.

The result of the zone can be a Win or a Loss.

for example: 5 games =  w-w-l-w-w = 4 wins and 1 one consecutive loss // strike 4 out of 5.

another example: w-l-l-w-w = 3 wins and 1 two consequtive losses // strike 3 out of 5.

But if I am looking to your Breakdown:

Loss
1   16828   
2   3487   
3   562      
4   117   
5   25   
6   4   

you have to multiply a one loss with 1 a two loss with 2 etc

and the total = 26105 losses

Hope this explained it better, what i am meaning.

[Rheti]

Analyzed one week of spinning (Wiesbaden spins) related to the Evaluation phase (double dozen) of the Zone and the Zone itself.

first the predictions of the Zone to the Next Evaluation phase:

Lw

74%      
20   7   27

Ll

76%      
13   4   17

Wl

61%      
17   11   28

Ww

78%      
79   22   101

Average rate:

zone to eval      
75%      
129   44   173


Only promising so far Evaluation phase to the Zone:

Ll

82%      
14   3   17

[Rheti]

Two weeks of spinning:

zone to eval   
   
80%      
53   13   66
lw   lw   

zone to eval   
   
72%      
21   8   29
ll   ll   

zone to eval   
   
72%      
38   15   53
wl   wl   

zone to eval   
   
76%      
177   57   234
ww   ww   

Average rate:

zone to eval      
76%      
289   93   382
      

So far only promising to the Zone:

eval to zone   
   
86%      
25   4   29
ll   ll   

[Rheti]

3 weeks of spinning:

zone to eval      
      
78.8%      
93   25   118
lw   lw   

zone to eval      
      
71.4%      
30   12   42
ll   ll   

zone to eval      
      
72.8%      
67   25   92
wl   wl   

zone to eval      
      
74.4%      
279   96   375
ww   ww   


average rate:

zone to eval      
      
74.8%      
469   158   627
      

eval to zone      
      
81.4%      
96   22   118
lw   lw   

eval to zone      
      
80.4%      
74   18   92
wl   wl   

[Rheti]

four weeks of spinning:

zone to eval      
123   -64   59
79.4%      
123   32   155
lw   lw   


zone to eval      
35   -28   7
71.4%      
35   14   49
ll   ll   

zone to eval      
94   -70   24
72.9%      
94   35   129
wl   wl   

zone to eval      
350   -236   114
74.8%      
350   118   468
ww   ww   


Average rate:

zone to eval      
602   -398   204
75.2%      
602   199   801

Not bad a plus of 204 units..


eval to zone      
219   -210   9
80.6%      
125   30   155
lw   lw   


eval to zone      
184   -168   16
81.4%      
105   24   129
wl   wl   

[Rheti]

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