I think I have come up with a winning method by accident.

[TwoCatSam]

"the truth about roulette."

The truth about roulette is the ball will land where it lands regardless of where it landed in the past.  Even knowing this, I still love the game.

And, yes, Steve's method did not work unless luck dictated so. 

I was far more interested in how it reduced volatility rather than the bottom line.  Still am.....

Sam

[ReDsQuaD]

"the truth about roulette."

The truth about roulette is the ball will land where it lands regardless of where it landed in the past.  Even knowing this, I still love the game.

Sam

The ball will land where it lands for a reason, there are ways to exploit this fact.

[TwoCatSam]

Quad

From what I've read over the years, I'm sure you're right.  It is just not my area of interest.  Perhaps that makes me a looser.  So be it.

Sam

[Robeenhuut]

Gents

This is a bastardization of the old "Steve Morgan System" I purchased years ago for $35.  I did a test of Steve's idea through all--and I do mean ALL- 15,000 spins of the Zuma 00 roulette tester.  It did amazingly well against such odds.  I think it would have at least broken even against the 0 wheel.

Anyway, I've spent a year trying to understand Lanky's six point divisor for two dozens and finally got it.  Yes, I'm slow!  But I got it.

I am currently playing this system with the divisor at Dublin.  I believe this is as close to a winning method as I've ever seen.  It does require a large bankroll ($5/$1,000), but as Lanky once said--it never loses.  Yeah, it pokes around for twenty spins trying to get back to even, but it has always gotten there.

Caveat:  I know I won't live long enough (you won't either) to test it, but it seems mathematically viable.

As long as I'm sitting at Dublin playing my guitar, I might as well test that Uly thing and see if there is some validity to it also.

Speak people!  I'd even like Number6 to come along and tell me how I'm wasting my time!

Samster

Hello

How do you play it because Lanky's divisor  can be applied to many systems?
Which 2 dozens system are you referring to?

Regards

[TwoCatSam]

Rob  (May I call you Rob?  I'm old and typing these long names puts me closer to the grave!  Well, that did, too!!!)

I am talking about the system where you bet the last dozens missed and the the last dozen hit.   Just flip-flop.


H...Bet the last two dozen hit
M...Bet the last two dozens that missed.
H..and so on...
M
H

Use 1 3 9 progression.  A triple loss is equal to 26 units.  Use the same H M scheme, only use the divisor to get back to zero.  This make take twenty spins.  People will laugh.  You will leave the casino a little ahead; they will be crying in their beer.

Remember, you can stop any time and resume three days later.  In three days the wheel will forget what dozen it hit while you were there.  A wheel can only remember for two minutes.

(Now that was TwoCat humor!)

Samster

[Robeenhuut]

Hello TCS 

Thanks for clarifying that for me. I will check this out.

Regards

[boatran8]

Hello,

I have coded the method into RX. With a normal prog it doesn't work.

Could someone explain me in a few words Lanky's divisor ? I yet can't get it while reading post about it.

Thanks

[TwoCatSam]

boat

Suppose your goal is to win six units over the next six spins

6/6=1.........is your first bet.  One unit is your first bet.

The divisor, which is the first six increases by your proposition:  Even=increases after two losses in a row; one dozen=increases after four losses; two dozens=increases every loss.

A win in any situation drops your divisor by one.

In any case, you add your total lost bet to the divided, or right hand number.

Let's say you lost on two dozens and you had $1 on each:

7/8=1.14............Lanky always rounds up to the next makeable bet.  Could be fifty cents or could be a dollar.  Here, probably $2 would be your next bet.  Total of four.  Add four on a loss and raise divisor (left hand number) by one.

Every time you lose, you add your TOTAL loss to the divided and raise the divisor by one.

One of the ways this method of money management works is in betting slightly more than your should by rounding up.

When the wheel is performing normally, you will win.  When it is throwing you your dozens or whatever, you win quicker.  When the wheel seems to be going against you---walk away.  Go to another wheel.  Log off and come back later.  As Ronjo once said, "Don't stand there and take a beating."

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With even chances or single dozens/columns, you do the same thing except follow the first sentence as your rule.  Just remember when we write x/y---x and y being any numbers---we are dividing y by x not the other way around.  They do things different in Australia and that threw me for a loop.  Let me pound that again:  Divisor/Divided=8/20, or any numbers.

If I can help, pull my chain.

Sam

[boatran8]

boat

Suppose your goal is to win six units over the next six spins

6/6=1.........is your first bet.  One unit is your first bet.



7/9=1.25............Lanky always rounds up to the next makeable bet.  Could be fifty cents or could be a dollar.  Some casinos let you add 25 cents, so it would be perfect.  Here, probably $2 would be your next bet.  Total of four.  Add four on a loss and raise divisor (left hand number) by one.

Every time you lose, you add your TOTAL loss to the divided and raise the divisor by one.

If I can help, pull my chain.

Sam

I pull your chain Sam

Why, in your example we have 7/9? Because 6+2=8 ... Shouldn't it be 7/8 in case we loose 1 on each 2 dozens?

regards

[TwoCatSam]

See how bad my frickin' math is?  You are right!  I will correct the original.

[TwoCatSam]

I cannot find the thread where this was posted:

If the last two doz/col are different, bet the penultimate.

I used a 1 3 9 progression and stopped there.

I used the six point divisor to recover the lost 26 units when necessary.  I am up about 1,000# at Dublin in the last few days.

Patience is the key.  Once took about 30 spins to eliminate the 26, but it did.  The bet got rather high, about 50# or so.

This is probably all luck and will change any minute.

By the way, for those of you who still bet the dealer is out to get them, there were three 0's in a row last night and another very soon for four 0's in about six spins.  There were no people playing!! Not one!!

I screen shot it.  Anyone care to see it?  Tell me how to attach it.

Sam

[mcmonaco]

There were no people playing!! Not one!![/I][/b]



Sam
[/quote]

--Seen it many times when nobody there.
They actually rehearsing and if you take
close notice talking to each others/dealers/
as if they are competing.

[TwoCatSam]

Let me be clear..........

Are you saying the dealer hit those zeros on purpose?  That he had a competition with the dealer behind him?

Thanks for your reply.

Sam

[mcmonaco]

Let me be clear..........

Are you saying the dealer hit those zeros on purpose?  That he had a competition with the dealer behind him?

Thanks for your reply.

Sam

-Exactly Sam.Once,few months back,table 1 and 2,dealers
Martin and Istvan .....Martin=12,12,28,12,29,12,7,35,28,12
                                 Istvan=3,12,18,29,7,12,29,29,12,12

Wouldn't you call this a competition,as between spins they
were talking to each other all the time.

[TwoCatSam]

Since my last post I have won almost 800# more.  Am approaching 3,000# mark.

Probably all just luck.......

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

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