Hi all,
I have just lost my job with 3 kids to feed and finding it very hard to find work.
Then I keep reading about this great roulette system where you bet only on black all the time and if you lose on red you keep doubling your bet until you make it all up again as black MUST come round at some point. So you bet £2, £4, £8, £16, £32, £64, £128, £256, £512 wouldn't you be really unlucky if black didn't come up in 9 spins on a £512 investment as a maximum?!
I am sure this is a fix or something please tell me why it is and why I shouldn't do it!!!
Love and peace to all
Matt,
The strategy you mentioned above is known as Martingale and it'll kill your bankroll in very short time, that's for sure! I strongly advise you not to use it on roulette again in your life. I'm sorry to hear you lost your job with three kids @ home... Roulette is a game with negative expectation so you cannot expect to win in the long term but if you browse the forum for a couple of days you may find some useful methods & information. My personal advice: do not use progressions, especially when you're beginner & you play roulette for a living at this stage.
All the best to you mate...
& BTW welcome to the forum!
"black MUST come round at some point.", wrote matt. You are so right, my friend. I can absolutely promise and guarantee you black will re-appear. By the time it does, however, you will have lost all your money and will be gone. Unless you are a masochist and wish to hang around to see it appear on the first spin where you don't bet on it.
If all you say is true, you have no business being around a casino of any kind. Think of it as a hungry man wrestling an alligator for a fish. Who gets eaten? The fish and the man both.
Take a minute to take a look at this: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/gambling-and-roulette-related/internet-gambler-looses-almost-half-a-million/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/gambling-and-roulette-related/internet-gambler-looses-almost-half-a-million/)
Look long and hard at his face and then the faces of your family.
Sam
mattf1968
The other posters here have told you all you need to know about the Martingale .But I couldnt pass by without saying my bit...I played this when I first started playing roulette(as a few do!) and I won for a while...thought I was king s**t....for a while...didnt last long...
Roulette is a game that needs studying...it certainly isnt the thing to just drop into and expect to raise the family on.
Im sorry for your predicament but playing the Marty,or indeed(as Sam says) being around a casino in general is not for you at this time.
I wish you well and bonne chance,
The Spiders Kiss
If you have lost your job, find another one. The absolute worst thing you can do now is start gambling with money you simply cannot afford to lose. It takes a lot of dedication and time to understand roulette enough to know what doesn't work and what might work.
if you can not pick a even money chance in nine picks. what does this tell you about roulette. and the chances of winning.
Hello Mattf1968, welcome to the forum.
Gambling can be a source of income, but it is a very difficult way to earn money alone. Gambling is a hobby for the financially comfortable IMO, even then it needs smart money management for it to be profitable. Your mind must be free to concentrate on games of chance to succeed.
Although I do not have a family, I've tried to make money gambling with limited success. I hope your situation improves quickly. God bless.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on September 16, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
Hello Mattf1968, welcome to the forum.
Gambling can be a source of income, but it is a very difficult way to earn money alone. Gambling is a hobby for the financially comfortable IMO, even then it needs smart money management for it to be profitable. Your mind must be free to concentrate on games of chance to succeed.
Although I do not have a family, I've tried to make money gambling with limited success. I hope your situation improves quickly. God bless.
Good reply!
improve gaming ability specialy on roulette isnt that easy i can look myself 8 month back i did some steps but if anyone want take gambling seriously i thing i will need one more time for other thingsVb/law of the third/math prob./improowe skils/read randomness/clear things /no stress/ this is basics which need anyone who want to take this jurney seriously..... jeeeeses now i see im not even on begining way??? how is that possible
It takes a lot of dedication and time to understand roulette>>
If most people on the forum understood how difficult it is to beat roulette, they would run screaming in the other direction. Its not the edge, its the random that kills you.
Quote from: Spike on September 17, 2009, 01:50:41 AM
If most people on the forum understood how difficult it is to beat roulette, they would run screaming in the other direction. Its not the edge, its the random that kills you.
Fact.
Fact>>>
Every single bet is a unique decision, it requires total concentration. You have to be aware of where you are in the random stream at all times or it will eat you. I guess it gets easier as time goes on, but its never easy..
Quote from: Number Six on September 16, 2009, 05:57:44 PM
If you have lost your job, find another one. The absolute worst thing you can do now is start gambling with money you simply cannot afford to lose. It takes a lot of dedication and time to understand roulette enough to know what doesn't work and what might work.
Terrific advice Six.......Good post Mate.
Lanky.
Quote from: mattf1968 on September 16, 2009, 06:41:19 AM
Hi all,
I have just lost my job with 3 kids to feed and finding it very hard to find work.
Then I keep reading about this great roulette system where you bet only on black all the time and if you lose on red you keep doubling your bet until you make it all up again as black MUST come round at some point. So you bet £2, £4, £8, £16, £32, £64, £128, £256, £512 wouldn't you be really unlucky if black didn't come up in 9 spins on a £512 investment as a maximum?!
I am sure this is a fix or something please tell me why it is and why I shouldn't do it!!!
Love and peace to all
If you are determined to make a living gambling then either learn advantage play techniques in Blackjack, or learn how to handicap sporting events. Those are the only two bets that you can learn how to get an advantage in.
IF there are people who can beat roulette, craps, etc, I believe they use some approach that cannot be taught.
Quote from: curious on September 17, 2009, 06:05:49 PM
IF there are people who can beat roulette, craps, etc, I believe they use some approach that cannot be taught.
Not true. The roulette device can be beat by a serious advantage player, and the methods involved can be taught.
Quote from: Marven on September 17, 2009, 06:47:01 PM
Not true. The roulette device can be beat by a serious advantage player, and the methods involved can be taught.
An advantage player has an advantage that can be proven mathematically to have a +EV.
Please show us these advantage play roulette techniques that can be proven mathematically to have a +EV and can be taught.
Quote from: curious on September 17, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
An advantage player has an advantage that can be proven mathematically to have a +EV.
Spot on.
Quote from: curious on September 17, 2009, 08:12:34 PM
Please show us these advantage play roulette techniques that can be proven mathematically to have a +EV and can be taught.
VB, bias play, and hybrid DS (i.e. dealer signature with VB elements).
I'm kinda surprised you didn't know, you seemed rather knowledgeable about AP.
Anyway, if you're
serious about studying the proper methods, I can privately point you towards the right material.
Quote from: Marven on September 17, 2009, 08:37:56 PM
Spot on.
VB, bias play, and hybrid DS (I.e. dealer signature with VB elements).
I'm kinda surprised you didn't know, you seemed rather knowledgeable about AP.
Anyway, if you're serious about studying the proper methods, I can privately point you towards the right material.
I don't know enough about this to know if bias play and dealer signature can be proven substantially enough to know what your EV will be. I'm not saying you cannot, I'm saying I just don't know. Perhaps it is similar to hole card peeking at blackjack, I don't know exactly what my EV will be if I find a sloppy dealer but the EV will be so high I don't care if I can't calculate it exactly.
Yes, send me some information to point me in the right direction on these techniques.
I am convinced that the only way to beat roulette--as well as any game of chance is with one or more partners. At least someone who can see what you can't see in a system. Plus if you are the type of bettor that tends to make compulsive bets, your partner(s) can remind you of the agreed plan.