According to Ron Shelley in his book 'Roulette Wheel Study', when the modern electronic marquee was introduced that displayed the last numbers that won, the 'drop' for roulette went up 25%. In other words, when the casino showed the players what had won for the last 10-15 spins, the casino made 25% more money than without the marquee. I've seen older pit people in Vegas, who remember when there were no marquees, who'll tell you never to look at the tote board, its a casino gimmick. Some of the older pit people in Vegas actually feel sorry for roulete players because its such a hopeless game to try and beat.
Ah well...
SLC has 180 last spun numbers. It is even more confusing. You can see a number that hasn't been hit for 100 or more times, and you start losing money on it. As many people do. If you hadn't seen it, you woludn't play it. That's why, after 2 weeks pf play, I've noticed SLC has more sleepers than Dublinbet, and more mid-sleepers hit. More number repeatings.... A bit confusing situation, I agree. 10 number history is quite enough. You can't even handle more in your head.
But I can't even imagine myself playing without any history. I once did in live play, diplay got broken. I've earned some in that few spins, but had quit fast. It felt like being blind, and I didn't feel comfortable playing that way.
Where I play, I've seen people get up and leave the table if the history board breaks down. Ken
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..
Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..
I assume the more info customers have, the more they slip into the "this is / isn't due" mantra.....
Hence the losses ?
Here at my local casino I noticed that the boards seemed not to work when certain players are at the table .
When they leave the board work again...strange.
Regards
MAX
Quote from: MAX on May 31, 2010, 03:37:37 PM
Here at my local casino I noticed that the boards seemed not to work when certain players are at the table .
When they leave the board work again...strange.
Regards
MAX
Wow, what a great illustrations of a perception about randomness. You can make up what ever you want to. I suggest reasoning it out to the most truthful rational. What happens with the marquees is that some numbers don't work. This conclusion that certain people trigger it not working is an unreasonable conclusion. The truth is it's the sensors that pick up the numbers from the wheel. Some of them repeatedly do not work. It's not the people. It's the timing of the randomness that seems coincidental.
Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..
I should Bet on the outdoor temp number...lol
Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..
So why haven't all the casinos in lets say Vegas got the latest boards? Even a small increase on the hold would easily cover the cost.
Because they're lazy and cheap. The sales gal at gambling supply place told me Vegas has always been last to get anything new. They want it throughly tested everywhere else first. They also wait for the old stuff to wear out so they can squeeze every dime they have invested out of it.
Here in Milw. in the last two months. We finally have airball roulette and those chip stacking machines, no more muckers. Ken
The LV strip will probably never get airball. It's too busy. It could show up downtown some day.
Having traveled to most of the casinos in the US, I've found that "Airball Roulette" is usually found in more remote and seasonal locations, like Colorado and Wisconsin. The busiest casino that I've found it in was the Mohegan Sun. Every other casino was usually rather slow.
I believe BJ switch and rapid craps both premiered in LV.
I called IGT again in May and they said Vegas will definately be getting airball later this year. Call and ask yourself if you don't believe me.
Apropos airball machines. Beginning of this week in Atlantic City I set .out to see one of those machines supposed to be at the RESORTS .
I knew that the RESORTS had those machines advertised ( 2009) on some of their bill boards leading into town.
Well when I got there last Monday I was looking for them and was told they had been removed 2 months ago and had been replaced by some virtual horse racing machines.
I was told they might get them back in July. Who knows. I thought for sure that they might have moved them to the HILTON , both affiliated, but no. Instead the HILTON had lowered the roulette table mnimums to $ 2.00 which remained in effect until about 1 PM when it joined the other 3 tables with minimums of $ 5 and $ 10 Min.
I have never seen such lowas $ 2 table minimums in Atlantic City ever. I remember $ 3 min about 1981.En prison rules apply to the EC at the 0/00 tables in Atlantic City. Single 0 tables are collecting " dust" .
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
replaced by some virtual horse racing machines.<<<
Casinos have to lease them from IGT, just like slots. If they don't make money, out they go.
You are correct. The lease expired exactly after one year when the machines were removed 2 months ago.
Be it be known that Spike knows what he is talking about . :ok:
Nathan Detroit
If the casinos had to buy everything in the casino, they'd go out of business. They lease everything they can, make money on it, then pay the lease fee's out of last months profit. Its a house of cards, thats why they always sweat the bottom line.