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Interesting Roulette Fact

Started by Spike!, May 31, 2010, 06:01:24 AM

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Spike!

According to Ron Shelley in his book 'Roulette Wheel Study', when the modern electronic marquee was introduced that displayed the last numbers that won, the 'drop' for roulette went up 25%. In other words, when the casino showed the players what had won for the last 10-15 spins, the casino made 25% more money than without the marquee. I've seen older pit people in Vegas, who remember when there were no marquees,  who'll tell you never to look at the tote board, its a casino gimmick. Some of the older pit people in Vegas actually feel sorry for roulete players because its such a hopeless game to try and beat.

Ah well...

husky

SLC has 180 last spun numbers. It is even more confusing. You can see a number that hasn't been hit for 100 or more times, and you start losing money on it. As many people do. If you hadn't seen it, you woludn't play it. That's why, after 2 weeks pf play, I've noticed SLC has more sleepers than Dublinbet, and more mid-sleepers hit. More number repeatings.... A bit confusing situation, I agree. 10 number history is quite enough. You can't even handle more in your head.

But I can't even imagine myself playing without any history. I once did in live play, diplay got broken. I've earned some in that few spins, but had quit fast. It felt like being blind, and I didn't feel comfortable playing that way.

Mr J

Where I play, I've seen people get up and leave the table if the history board breaks down.  Ken

Spike!

A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..

xman1970

Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..

I assume the more info customers have, the more they slip into the "this is / isn't due" mantra.....

Hence the losses ?

MAX

Here at my local casino I noticed that  the boards seemed not to work when certain players are at the table .

When they leave the board work again...strange.

Regards
MAX

gizmotron

Quote from: MAX on May 31, 2010, 03:37:37 PM
Here at my local casino I noticed that  the boards seemed not to work when certain players are at the table .

When they leave the board work again...strange.

Regards
MAX


Wow, what a great illustrations of a perception about randomness. You can make up what ever you want to. I suggest reasoning it out to the most truthful rational. What happens with the marquees is that some numbers don't work. This conclusion that certain people trigger it not working is an unreasonable conclusion. The truth is it's the sensors that pick up the numbers from the wheel. Some of them repeatedly do not work. It's not the people. It's the timing of the randomness that seems coincidental.

Rheti

Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..

I should Bet on the outdoor temp number...lol

geoff365

Quote from: Spike! on May 31, 2010, 12:55:17 PM
A lot of the newer boards have everything on them except the outdoor temp. The more info they give the player, the more they lose, apparently. And the more greatful they are for the info..

So why haven't all the casinos in lets say Vegas got the latest boards? Even a small increase on the hold would easily cover the cost.

Spike!

Because they're lazy and cheap. The sales gal at gambling supply place told me Vegas has always been last to get anything new. They want it throughly tested everywhere else first. They also wait for the old stuff to wear out so they can squeeze every dime they have invested out of it.

Mr J

Here in Milw. in the last two months. We finally have airball roulette and those chip stacking machines, no more muckers.  Ken

Herb6

The LV strip will probably never get airball.  It's too busy.  It could show up downtown some day.

Having traveled to most of the casinos in the US, I've found that "Airball Roulette" is usually found in more remote and seasonal locations, like Colorado and Wisconsin.  The busiest casino that I've found it in was the Mohegan Sun.  Every other casino was usually rather slow.

I believe BJ switch and rapid craps both premiered in LV.

Spike!

I called IGT again in May and they said Vegas will definately be getting airball later this year. Call and ask yourself if you don't believe me.

Nathan Detroit

Apropos  airball machines. Beginning of this  week  in Atlantic  City I set .out to see one  of those  machines supposed to be  at the RESORTS .

I knew  that the RESORTS had those  machines  advertised ( 2009) on some  of their bill boards leading into town.
Well when I got there   last  Monday I was looking for them and was told  they  had been removed  2 months  ago and had been replaced  by some  virtual horse  racing  machines.

I was  told they might  get them back in  July. Who knows. I thought for  sure that they might have moved them to the  HILTON , both  affiliated, but no. Instead the  HILTON had lowered the  roulette table mnimums  to $ 2.00 which  remained in effect  until about 1  PM when it joined  the other 3   tables  with  minimums  of  $  5   and  $ 10 Min.

I have never seen such lowas  $ 2  table minimums in Atlantic City ever. I remember $ 3 min  about 1981.En prison rules  apply to the  EC  at the 0/00  tables in Atlantic City.  Single 0 tables are collecting " dust" .    

Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!



Spike!

replaced  by some  virtual horse  racing  machines.<<<

Casinos have to lease them from IGT, just like slots. If they don't make money, out they go.

Spike!

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