I've gone round in circles, come close, and crashed several times into brick walls but I finally arrived at something I can feel comfortable with.
This is it. Please take a little time to test yourself or look into it, because it simple to play. It is a medium grinder, so don't expect plays every spin, but you should be looking at quite a fair few plays each 100 spins.
Wait for an event such as this
RRB (I play Red and Odd)
and this
OOE
This is a virtual loss in this system.
Then wait for another RR or OO.
Then bet once only for a triple. If win, we retrack.
If lost then, wait for another RR or OO and bet for another triple.
2,4,6,8,10
If you lose these 5 bets, then take the loss and carry on for the remainder of the session. Make a pre-concieved amount of spins.
I like 100 spins.
Here's an example:
15
18
21
35 here's a virtual loss, so wait for another RR
19
10
1
24
16
34
31 Loss
1
13
32
3
21 Win on second attempt reds
32 virtual loss on odds
2
35
7
10 Loss on odds
13
9
10 2nd loss on odds
1
5
5 win on 3rd attempt odds
25
35
34 virtual loss odds
30
32
27
-- -- --
35
7 win on 1st odds
36
29 virtual loss
36
27
1 Win on 1st attempt reds
14 virtual loss odds
33
12
35
23
28 loss odds
34
33
15
12 2nd loss odds
3
23
30 3rd loss odds
7
-- -- --
18
8
9
24
11
0
35
16
36
27
9
25 win on 4th odds
35
21
24 virtual loss odds
36
10
9
1
7 win on 2nd odds
2
7
27
14
+6
Let me know how you do
BW
It looks good. How much testing have you did so far? What are the results? Why not just flat bet? If you think out of your 3 bets in a row that you should win 2/3 long term then just flat bet (eg 111, if profit repeat, if lose up to 222, if profit down to 111, if lose up to 333 etc)
Col
Quote from: col1879 on February 06, 2011, 04:25:58 PM
It looks good. How much testing have you did so far? What are the results? Why not just flat bet? If you think out of your 3 bets in a row that you should win 2/3 long term then just flat bet (eg 111, if profit repeat, if lose up to 222, if profit down to 111, if lose up to 333 etc)
Col
Nice suggestion Col,
I will test using your progression idea. I have done numerous tests which I will be posting here, and it is healthily in profit.
thanks for your comments
BW
Here's how it comes out using col's more conservative, safer progression
15
18
21
35 here's a virtual loss, so wait for another RR
19
10
1
24
16
34
31 Loss
1
13
32
3
21 Win on second attempt reds
32 virtual loss on odds
2
35
7
10 Loss on odds
13
9
10 2nd loss on odds
1
5
5 win on 3rd attempt odds
25
35
34 virtual loss odds
30
32
27
-- -- --
35
7 win on 1st odds
36
29 virtual loss
36
27
1 Win on 1st attempt reds
14 virtual loss odds
33
12
35
23
28 loss odds
34
33
15
12 2nd loss odds
3
23
30 3rd loss odds
7
-- -- --
18
8
9
24
11
0
35
16
36
27
9
25 win on 4th odds
35
21
24 virtual loss odds
36
10
9
1
7 win on 2nd odds
2
7
27
14
+2
Hi col, thanks, it works great. Im using a little more aggressive 222/444/666 progression due to the slower nature of this method.
BW
+2 with safer progression for this run
15
18
21
35 here's a virtual loss, so wait for another RR
19
10
1
24
16
34
31 Loss
1
13
32
3
21 Win on second attempt reds
32 virtual loss on odds
2
35
7
10 Loss on odds
13
9
10 2nd loss on odds
1
5
5 win on 3rd attempt odds
25
35
34 virtual loss odds
30
32
27
-- -- --
35
7 win on 1st odds
36
29 virtual loss
36
27
1 Win on 1st attempt reds
14 virtual loss odds
33
12
35
23
28 loss odds
34
33
15
12 2nd loss odds
3
23
30 3rd loss odds
7
-- -- --
18
8
9
24
11
0
35
16
36
27
9
25 win on 4th odds
35
21
24 virtual loss odds
36
10
9
1
7 win on 2nd odds
2
7
27
14
+2 Another session
33
33
8 OT
8
23
11
34 OL
12
30
8
6
10
25
25
-- -- --
21 OW
34
16
21
26
23
33
36 OT
6
24
12
1
12
2
15
29
30 OL
0
-- -- --
21
23
28 RT OL
6
5
13
15 OW
1
15
30 OT
9
23 RW
3 OW
5
-- -- --
7
21
33
19
12 OT
11 RT
13
26 OL
24
25
21
6 LR LO
31
0
35
28
2
19
-- -- --
35
32 OL
9
24 LR
12
18
19 RW
1
15 OW
I am revisiting this method, having been too busy looking at countless others and have done another day at german casino test using 222/444/666 progression. Was a good day, didn't once go beyond the 222 bet. I will be spending more time on this one
33
23
33
9
12
28 RT
10
21
24
11
30
34
15 RL -2
24
0
30
10
32
-- -- --
2
9
15
15
33
4
2
16
33
5
0
32
5
30 RW 0
14
6
20
12
9
3
22 OT
19
23
35 RT/OW +2
31
8
28
21
23
25 RW +4
19
26
-- -- --
13
13
1
2
0
22
23
10
24
15
36
36
14
10
29
36
7
15 RT
28 OT
16
1
24 RL +2
10
0
12
29
27
24 OL 0
22
36
21
1 RW +2
25 OW +4
1
32
14
10
10
9
13
25
35
35
18
15
5
20 OT
33
5
2 OL +2
33
-- -- --
3
23 OW +4
26 RT
29
2
5
33
13
18
2
6
10
23
25
18 RW/OT +6
17
22
0
31
28
29
1
5 OW +8
36
16
17
7
13
32
32
27
23
2 OT
19
1
15 RT/OW +10
18
1
36 RW +12
23
35
-- -- --
35
19
28
2
26
20
15
3
13
18
32
9
1
32 OT
34
5
1
30 OL +10
21
24
-- -- --
18
27
4 RT
29
19
17 OW +12
10
2
22
15
0
29
10
34
31
0
17
34
27
4 RL +10
23
30
21 RW +12
23
24 OT
0
31
28
32
15
31
31 OW +14
16
28
31
2
3
24
14
18
10 RL +12
9
21
21 RW +14
21
30
17
33
18 OT
28
27
31
15 OW +16
Only -4, after long runs of losses. Shows how st**dy this is even when the going gets tough
8
3
35
4 OT
18
22
0
13
10
30
6
19
24
-- -- --
12
0
5
32
1
32
20
35
14
11
15
2 OL -2
31
12
11
21
35
36 OW 0
2
34
34
34
31
8
-- -- --
18
1
16
21
15
15
34
31
36
10
36
21
2 RT
33
29
16 OT
31
10
32
31
30
28
1
9
-- -- --
5 RW/OW +4
28
5
19
23
33
20
36
22
14
-- -- --
15
36
5
2 RT
15
29
19
34
16 RW +6
23
22
30
14
23
18
14
22
15
25
10 OT
10
26
6
7
2
6
33
20
-- -- --
24
16
14
33 RT
20
29
10
32
14
2 RL +4
8
18
15
18
10
5
19
18 RW/OL +4
30
9
2
34
35
31
14 OL +2
16
24 RT
-- -- --
9
10
30
32
34 RW +4
22
3
21
24 RT/OL +2
36
19
13 RL 0
26 OL -2
5
-- -- --
8
12
30
36 RW +2
30
11
5
10 OL 0
10
24
22
-- -- --
10
7
14
20 RT
22
12
27
4 RL -2
3
-- -- --
32
13 RL -4
12
30
6 RL -8
27
30
36 RW -4
Another random day at wiesbaden, +12 again not much trouble at all, only once had to go to first 4 in progression leg, but was in plus so brought it straight back down to 2 afterwards
0
8
2
3
7
23
26
10
14
9
11 RT
12 OT
30
7 RW +2
5
8 OL 0
2
31
2
0
1
20
18
24
8
3
23
29 OW/RT +2
-- -- --
36
22
23
30
36 RW +4
27
32
14
2
17
27
29
26
20
1
0
26
30
10
32
13
13
33
35
34
24
7
16
31 RT
2
5
1
34 OT/RW +6
34
19
8
19
10
2
20
20
24
7
6
-- -- --
3
26
28
5
26
25
12
30
32
9
17
23 OW +8
12
11 RT
9
30 OT
1 RW +10
4
9
3
32 OL +8
13
17
36 OL +6
10
26
29
22
7
36
6 RT
31
3
4 OL +4
14
-- -- --
27
7 RW +8
13 OW +10
1
1
27
12
29
15
23
32
2 RT
36
17
14
10
13
25
20 OT
33
3
16 OL +8
2
1
-- -- --
22
5
9
1 RW/ OW +12
6
19
22
26
20
20
18
13
32
16
15 RT
19
3
0 RL +10
8
27
3
9 RW +12
15
2
11
36
25
26 RT
31
9
29
13
20
15
4
17
34
-- -- --
13
4
9
7
5 RW +14
19
9
24
35
33
0
10
25
11
11
12
36
17 RT
0
2
35
26
23
10
35
24
-- -- --
12
15
21
19
31 RL +12
33
12
10
2
7
What I call a battle! finished +2
34
27
20
11
32
28
28
3
31
29
4
0
15
6
16
16
19
36
17
25
10 OT
22
35
13
6 OL -2
0
10
27
14
17 RT
8
36
11
31
23 OW 0
35
18
34
-- -- --
18 RW +2
34
19
4
21
11
22 OT
16
2
11
15
30 OL 0
11
1
16 OL -2
0
14
28
0
16
0
23
27
6 RT/OL -4
33
7
20 OL -8
4
15
2
22
11
12
26
15
12
26
31
4
2
7
20
4
26
27
4
29
10
19
36
3 RW -4
13
23 OW 0
6
1
1
23
35
34
16
11 RT
33
-- -- --
17
12
30
12 RW +2
30
27
34
34
15
8
1
11
22 OT
1
4
3
3
1 OW +4
2
19
18
2 RT
5
30
32 RW +6
35
7
16 OT
28 RT
0
16
-- -- --
10
23
3
14 RW/OL +6
14
12
17
6
4
19
21
36 OL +4
36
32
35
24
17
36
3
27
12 OL +2
15
31
20 OL 0
23
12
13 RT
0
22
6
9
17
-- -- --
23 OW +4
1
16 RW +6
14
17
23
0
15
31
19
3
34
35
32
34
31 RT
19
30
35 RL +4
20
19
16
22 RL +2
Fighting hours for 2 units? Not economical at all. Not enough for the expensive fuel. Doubles come more often then triples therefore why don't bet against appearance of triple after forming double?
Example of Double-Double system:
B R
X
X
X
X trigger to bet next spin against appearance of triple. 1u on red.
X won
X
X
X lost, wait for double
X
X
X
X trigger 2u on black
X won
and so on until bitter win. You can play it on all ECs simultaneously! It is money mill.
The progression could be also first bet $10 and if won next bet $5 (J. Patrick's Pull back Regression) If lost wait for next trigger and then start with $10 bet again.
Hermes
Quote from: hermes on February 25, 2011, 01:52:08 PM
Fighting hours for 2 units? Not economical at all. Not enough for the expensive fuel. Doubles come more often then triples therefore why don't bet against appearance of triple after forming double?
Example of Double-Double system:
B R
X
X
X
X trigger to bet next spin against appearance of triple. 1u on red.
X won
X
X
X lost, wait for double
X
X
X
X trigger 2u on black
X won
and so on until bitter win. You can play it on all ECs simultaneously! It is money mill.
The progression could be also first bet $10 and if won next bet $5 (J. Patrick's Pull back Regression) If lost wait for next trigger and then start with $10 bet again.
Hermes
Thanks Hermes, I will look into your suggestion. By the way, people can play online these days with quick spins and save on time and fuel.
BW
Hey wait a second. I must be missing something here. It seems like everyone agrees that doubles will always outnumber triples, so why can't we just flat bet against triples all the time and become millionaires?
Sam
Quote from: birdhands on February 25, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
Hey wait a second. I must be missing something here. It seems like everyone agrees that doubles will always outnumber triples, so why can't we just flat bet against triples all the time and become millionaires?
Sam
That's where the fallacy comes in. If only mate. Doubles outnumber triples, yes, but they dont outnumber trips, quads, quints, sixtuplets etc.
I've looked into counteracting 'pure' triples, but the annoyance is, you have to bet after a double, and then after the triple if lost, in case it forms a quad.
RR bet B
RRR bet R to stop trip forming
So you're betting twice just to stop one triple. I have seen 4 triples in a row, which is 8 bets. Still, better than most selections