Hi Guys,
Been a long time since I have visited VLS.
Have I missed anything interesting??
Cheers :)
D
Quote from: Diarmaid on February 14, 2011, 03:09:39 AM
Hi Guys,
Been a long time since I have visited VLS.
Have I missed anything interesting??
Cheers :)
D
Mr j has taken up advantage play through visual ballistics and wheel bias scouting...cough. ::)
Gizmotron has knocked back 417 new students. :P
Spike is back disguised as the member.... no, sorry I won't tell. :-X
Steve owns the forum, but I own Steve. :thumbsup:
"The Cauldron" came and went with little more fuss than a baby's burb. :scratch_ones_head:
Norman Bates has been responsible for more valuable brainstorming than 12 months worth of the entire GG put together. :o
MauiSunset is constantly annoying the shit out of everyone. ;D
The word SHIT has been de-censored and so is free to use ad hoc.....................shit! :dance1:
I'm sure there's more interesting stuff but that's the gist of it.
Cheers. :drinks:
Ha ha
Thanks for that Bombus.
Hopefully I can help point some people in the right direction.
I stopped gambling for the past year and concentrated on just playing and testing for fun.
I started playing again for real 3 months ago and I have turned a €100 BR into just over €5000.
So I am pretty confident I am now on the right track when it comes to playing roulette... SHIT YEAH
SHIT...SHIT...SHIT :P :P
Great to have an expert visit - maybe you'll take my little challenge and run with it.
So far John Gold has been the only brave person to demo their skills at Roulette in real-time. Lots and lots of excuses why someone can't, from lack of a PC to really weird stuff.
Here are the simple instructions and if you wish to participate please just let us know when you are ready:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/)
Best of luck.......
Nice to see you are back again.
:)
Regards
Max
Quote from: bombus on February 14, 2011, 04:26:42 AM
Gizmotron has knocked back 417 new students. :P
I set out to teach ten students. I have 10 students. That's all. I did it because I'm going to die sooner or later and I don't want it taken to my grave. It took too long to figure it out. It's not easy to do. I knew it would be very hard for someone to stumble on to it. That includes me bringing up the topic on three forums. Even my students struggle with it.
@ why do you keep going on about yourself.
hey D, how did you make that much, are you going to tell anyone your system ?
i have a system based on sectors, just wondering if thats the way to go ?
Quote from: darrynf on February 14, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
@ why do you keep going on about yourself.
Why do you keep going on about me?
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 05:54:14 PM
Why do you keep going on about me?
you should already know that gizmo, the same reason anyone goes on about you.
maybe something to do with the fact you are a scammer.
maybe cause you talk down to people, call people names, should i keep going on?
its your attitude to people that really anoys me. why cant you just be nice, just because someone disagrees with you dosent mean shoot them down.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 05:54:14 PM
Why do you keep going on about me?
when i come across your posts i will read them when you dont sound like you are in the mid evil times, and i agree with some things you say.
but you are arogant, you have nothing nice to say most of the time and you put people down, thats why i keep pestering you gizmo but we all know you will never change cause you are an old grumpy man behind a computer desk!
all scammers charge for useless info and real players that make money from casinos dont devulge there info and dont care what people think of them cause they are too busy to be on here!
You are being talked down to because you need to be. You are stuck on that stage where you believe you will find a special combination of wheel or table selection process that will get you a successful advantage. Most of you think it's about a bet combination, a progression, or a money management method that makes you a consistent winner. Until you get over this stage you will not be ready to move on to all you really have. That's randomness. You all have considered randomness to be an impossible thing to understand. So you dismiss it out of arrogance. From that arrogance you keep telling me that I'm wrong. It's OK for you to tell me I'm wrong in your minds. But what the heck. You've done no work on it and your still stuck on your systems. I got over system more than 15 years ago. What's your excuse?
Quote from: darrynf on February 14, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
you should already know that gizmo, the same reason anyone goes on about you.
maybe something to do with the fact you are a scammer.
maybe cause you talk down to people, call people names, should I keep going on?
its your attitude to people that really anoys me. why cant you just be nice, just because someone disagrees with you dosent mean shoot them down.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 05:54:14 PM
Why do you keep going on about me?
and if you really are teaching people your method then why the hell are you on here all the time, shouldnt you be teaching or something (what excuss are you going to use this time).
all you ever do is give excusses and put people down, think about who would listen to an arogant beep beeep.
i wouldnt, i think people would take you more seriously if you didnt put people down and no one would hassle you.
not even me, i didnt bother with you until you tried to put me down then my perception of you change!
When are you going to look past systems and to learn to understand randomness? I did. I actually figured it out. It only took me ten years. I did it without a single clue from anyone. Here the first step. Try to understand hot numbers. Start with 300 spins and attempting to stay on the three hottest numbers. Do this by selection new hot numbers and dropping others during the 300 spins. Do that for about ten years. Learn to write computer simulations that report meaningful telemetry. Do it all for yourself without sharing any of the results with anyone.
Nope? Too much work for you? Theres always the excuse to fall back on.
@ gizmo
"You are being talked down to because you need to be." OMG (dose anyone believe this shit)
you dont even know me or how I bet.
I never onced bet for special combonations you twat!, this has nothing to do with how I bet you wannabe.
this is about how you insult people (keep it up mate, you will get a surprise).
"Most of you think it's about a bet combination, a progression, or a money management method that makes you a consistent winner."
I dont give a shit what you think or how you play, I play how I want too.
"From that arrogance you keep telling me that I'm wrong. It's OK for you to tell me I'm wrong in your minds. But what the heck. You've done no work on it and your still stuck on your systems. I got over system more than 15 years ago. What's your excuse?"
I never once said you were wrong you arogant beep. I have done alot of work on my systems for me, I amit most of the systems I post wont work, and my new one needs more testing but the system I use works well cause its not based on anything.
you talk about not using a system, but then you talk about teaching people, you cant teach random so there for you are using a system you beep beeeep you arrogant beep.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 06:20:24 PM
When are you going to look past systems and to learn to understand randomness? I did. I actually figured it out. It only took me ten years. I did it without a single clue from anyone. Here the first step. Try to understand hot numbers. Start with 300 spins and attempting to stay on the three hottest numbers. Do this by selection new hot numbers and dropping others during the 300 spins. Do that for about ten years. Learn to write computer simulations that report meaningful telemetry. Do it all for yourself without sharing any of the results with anyone.
Nope? Too much work for you? Theres always the excuse to fall back on.
thats a system you fool, thats not to much work, if you ask me thats pointing out a bias wheel for live wheels and thats not hard to teach and you are relying on repeating numbers.
even if i keep track and coverd the 3 hottes numbers.
ok gizmo i will look in to it
I don't know about anyone else - I'm laughing myself silly - I hope I don't get a heart attack.
Wish me luck............
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 06:20:24 PM
When are you going to look past systems and to learn to understand randomness? I did. I actually figured it out. It only took me ten years. I did it without a single clue from anyone. Here the first step. Try to understand hot numbers. Start with 300 spins and attempting to stay on the three hottest numbers. Do this by selection new hot numbers and dropping others during the 300 spins. Do that for about ten years. Learn to write computer simulations that report meaningful telemetry. Do it all for yourself without sharing any of the results with anyone.
Nope? Too much work for you? Theres always the excuse to fall back on.
and you are charging people 500 for this, i understand this straight off, dose it work (i guess time will tell), I wont knock it for now gizmo.
It's not a system. A system is a rule based technique that follows the rules mechanically. In every case the rule based systems all end up around the rate of the house's advantage. Hot number guessing was my first experience with the concept of making an educated guess. When I came across Spike talking about "Educated Guessing" I began to post of Roulette forums. It's been nothing but a fight ever since I did that.
theres a fight because you talk down to people.
this in my eyes is a system no matter how you play it, you wait for hot numbers and change the numbers according to what is hot at the time, i know its just random but the fact you are picking numbers from those numbers happening often still results in it being a system
if you played this in a real casino then it would take awhile to play as you have to get your info but the wheel always stay the same so im guessing it will show similar results the next day, this would show bias numbers.
on an rng this would be quick as it dosent take long to spin 300 numbers but keeping track of them would be hard, take away that fact.
and from the 300 spins you have 3 numbers, and im presuming you are flat betting.
so you bet on those numbers, so you would want a win out of 11 losses to get a profit and to keep changing the numbers.
how often can you expect on average a hot number hitting? i dont think a hot number will hit in a 11 spins (i could be wrong).
maybe 20-40 spins, im only asking cause i cant test half of a system, if im to test it then i need to know more info.
i could get a 100,000 test done on it.
Quote from: darrynf on February 14, 2011, 06:40:55 PM
theres a fight because you talk down to people.
this in my eyes is a system no matter how you play it, you wait for hot numbers and change the numbers according to what is hot at the time, I know its just random but the fact you are picking numbers from those numbers happening often still results in it being a system
No, the fight started because of the mathboyz. You clearly don't understand randomness, bet selection, and guessing. I know I've kept the actual technique to myself. All I can tell you is that your conclusions don't fit with reality. It's up to you to find that original idea. Since I have yet to publish it you will have to go with your uneducated assumptions. Did you know that it's OK to discover some things on your own?
im pretty sure the math boyz arnt on here now.
i understand randomness, you cant predict it, anyway gizmo untill you explain your system and thats what it is a system or method, then i cant be botherd with your bull shit.
look i have a winning system and i will tell a little bit about it, why bother telling anything at all. you just doone that to make people think you know something, or to try and anoy me (who knows)
im pretty sure your technique has been done before, maybe not on a larger scale but if rng is rigged then no matter what you wont win.
i can see it working on a live wheel and thats what i think you do.
but i dout its at 300 spins, you only said that to make people think its a waste of time, i hate arogant shit heads like you.
if your system works so well then stay at the casinos and stop pestering us.
your system will never work on a rng and it wont work on a wheel that isnt bias.
you will find on a large scale there will be too many numbers to cover and you will have more then 3 hot numbers to chose from
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 06:52:19 PM
No, the fight started because of the mathboyz. You clearly don't understand randomness, bet selection, and guessing. I know I've kept the actual technique to myself. All I can tell you is that your conclusions don't fit with reality. It's up to you to find that original idea. Since I have yet to publish it you will have to go with your uneducated assumptions. Did you know that it's OK to discover some things on your own?
"You clearly don't understand randomness, bet selection, and guessing."
and yet you think its not a system, a system dosent have to follow rules, anyway i thought i could have a descent talk with you but thats proberly over your head.
i dont give a shit about your system or your methods as you are a arogant shit head, its not your method, its you.
Quote from: darrynf on February 14, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
im pretty sure the math boyz arnt on here now.
I understand randomness, you cant predict it, anyway gizmo untill you explain your system and thats what it is a system or method, then I cant be botherd with your bull shit.
look I have a winning system and I will tell a little bit about it, why bother telling anything at all. you just doone that to make people think you know something, or to try and anoy me (who knows)
im pretty sure your technique has been done before, maybe not on a larger scale but if rng is rigged then no matter what you wont win.
I can see it working on a live wheel and thats what I think you do.
but I dout its at 300 spins, you only said that to make people think its a waste of time, I hate arogant shit heads like you.
if your system works so well then stay at the casinos and stop pestering us.
your system will never work on a rng and it wont work on a wheel that isnt bias.
you will find on a large scale there will be too many numbers to cover and you will have more then 3 hot numbers to chose from
save this
@darrynf,
It's ok to discuss differences in opinion, etc, but cool it on the name calling and abuse or you will suffer the wrath of the mods.
Quote from: bombus on February 14, 2011, 07:20:25 PM
@darrynf,
It's ok to discuss differences in opinion, etc, but cool it on the name calling and abuse or you will suffer the wrath of the mods.
and yet you let him put everyone down
its funny how you were useing a different system gizmo in the chat room.
could it be that this method on here dosent work.
keep it up mate, i already see the followers lol
wait a minut thats just a mountain in the background, my bad lol
Quote from: darrynf on February 14, 2011, 08:18:28 PM
its funny how you were useing a different system gizmo in the chat room.
could it be that this method on here dosent work.
You might be seeing things that never happened. Is that your story? Are we just now getting to the real you. What system did you think I was using and what system that is here do you think that it might be? I'm really expecting an answer so please give an answer.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 08:30:25 PM
I'm really expecting an answer so please give an answer.
Don't do it Darrynf !!!!!!!
Gizmo has NEVER answered a question here !!!!!!!
Play by his rules !!!!!! ;)
LMFAO :D ;D :D
Quote from: xman1970 on February 14, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
Don't do it Darrynf !!!!!!!
Gizmo has NEVER answered a question here !!!!!!!
Play by his rules !!!!!! ;)
LMFAO :D ;D :D
Save this
This forum is now as good as GG
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 14, 2011, 08:39:10 PM
Save this
This forum is now as good as GG
that is a v v v good point Gizmo :good:
there are a lot of personal attacks lately.......
mainly by YOU :nono: :nono: :nono:
why bother to answer that gitmo, are you going to call me a troll again lol
everyone who reads the forum know what im about.
the real me aye, i didnt know there was another me lol
later git
It's ok, don't get upset with him. .
You know why he's losing? Because he believes he can't win.
But, that does not mean we can't win :)!
Believe in yourself and you can win!
what ever his crap is, keep it away from me.
anyway what was the real disscussion here, oh that fellah is back, i dont know him, dose anyone else know him?
Running a chat room is a thankless job - I run many and can attest to that.
However, Roulette chat rooms have something that millions of other chat rooms do not have - the ability to quickly find out which member is full of BS. I wish that were true of the sites I run.
To all of you who boast about this or that, just prove it to us in real time - take my challenge:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/)
In an hour we can tell if you're full of BS or the real thing.
Think of it as a BS meter - it's set to "phony" now and can only be lowered to "real" if you can make money playing Roulette for a few hours in real time in front of us.
Sadly, I know that that BS meter will never leave "phony"......
I guess there is another meter - the "Excuse Meter" and it too is pegged at "Phony".....
Quote from: MauiSunset on February 15, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
Running a chat room is a thankless job - I run many and can attest to that.
However, Roulette chat rooms have something that millions of other chat rooms do not have - the ability to quickly find out which member is full of BS. I wish that were true of the sites I run.
To all of you who boast about this or that, just prove it to us in real time - take my challenge:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/bet-selection/if-you-want-to-demonstrate-your-system-in-public/)
In an hour we can tell if you're full of BS or the real thing.
Think of it as a BS meter - it's set to "phony" now and can only be lowered to "real" if you can make money playing Roulette for a few hours in real time in front of us.
Sadly, I know that that BS meter will never leave "phony"......
I guess there is another meter - the "Excuse Meter" and it too is pegged at "Phony".....
What is it exactly you want people to do?
Logging into chat and playing 100 or so spins to show a profit is a completely inconclusive exercise.
All it shows is that the method being employed has some capacity.
John Gold had a go and fared poorly, and he has considerable roulette experience and knowledge.
A complete newbie could come along and join in the chat game for 100 or so spins and walk away with a barrow full of chips.
I'm conducting a test at the moment that has run 1800 spins with a loss thus far of 400 odd units.
1800 spins on chat (and I'm less than ½ way through) who's going to do that?
I'm not surprised you have no takers.
MauiS is for me a riddle. I have offered him free demonstrations even with verbal explanation.I dare to say "I have not lost any session with my demonstration ". Every session I finished with about 100 units profit.
Quote from: bombus on February 16, 2011, 03:37:20 AM
What is it exactly you want people to do?
Logging into chat and playing 100 or so spins to show a profit is a completely inconclusive exercise.
All it shows is that the method being employed has some capacity.
John Gold had a go and fared poorly, and he has considerable roulette experience and knowledge.
A complete newbie could come along and join in the chat game for 100 or so spins and walk away with a barrow full of chips.
I'm conducting a test at the moment that has run 1800 spins with a loss thus far of 400 odd units.
1800 spins on chat (and I'm less than ½ way through) who's going to do that?
I'm not surprised you have no takers.
My challenge to folks is very simple - just gamble in real-time for a few hours and let's see what happens.
Many here are wasting lots of time with crazy ideas that won't work, they have convinced themselves that they are onto something; they are not.
Running a demo in front of folks is totally different than playing all kinds of test games - you can't fool yourself.
Also the folks who claim to have secret techniques and charge for them have the ability to demo their system in real time and prove it. Free software exists that allow you to capture the screen and then play back the session as a Webinar.
I know there is NO system out there that beats Roulette - so this is not for my benefit; it is to convince folks that they have nothing and that they are wasting their time and making abject fools of themselves by claiming to have the answer to Roulette.
Everyone that takes the challenge will fail unless luck happens to favor them that day. Failing is part of life and if you truly believe you have something you will try again. However after failure after failure my hope is that folks will realize that Roulette is a game of chance and just enjoy the game and stop wasting their precious time beating it.
Of course if someone can spend a few hours gambling and I see something that is novel that's my reward - something to help me in my pursuit to perfect my money management skills. Money management is for real and that's where Roulette can be improved - in my opinion; but not beaten.
Best of luck to those who want to give it a try....
Quote from: schoenpoetser on February 16, 2011, 07:33:35 AM
MauiS is for me a riddle. I have offered him free demonstrations even with verbal explanation.I dare to say "I have not lost any session with my demonstration ". Every session I finished with about 100 units profit.
ho do you play your session schoenpoetser,
have you never lost a session, is this with real money?
is this the shoe shine boy ?
Quote from: schoenpoetser on February 16, 2011, 07:33:35 AM
MauiS is for me a riddle. I have offered him free demonstrations even with verbal explanation.I dare to say "I have not lost any session with my demonstration ". Every session I finished with about 100 units profit.
Just let me know when you will demo and I'll be there....