Me again....
This system goes to the casino with me!
Sam
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Wow sam you sure are the nr1 tester here on this forum! ;)
Bravo!!! TwoCatSam ,you are just GREAT. 8)
rgds
sniper
The video is now ready in post one.
Hello Sam. I was just looking at the video you made. There is some good news and bad news. :)
The good news is the early spins that I was watching seemed to be working well however that is not the way I would play it.
Allow me to show you how I would have played.
36=6
--------
23=4 4 4 (1,2,3,5,6)
Because the 6 double street is missing and that is the one that seems to go missing for the longest time in all my tests and live play, then that is the one that I will play.
looking at the betting chart as follows
no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4 and 5
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4 and 5
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4 and 5
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3 and 5
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3 and 4
So my first bet because there is no 6 on a 4 would be to bet on 1,2,3 and 5.
06=1 1 3 (2,4,5,6)
So my second bet because there is no 6 on a 1 would be to bet on 2,3,4 and 5.
23=4 5 3 (1,2,6)
so my third bet because there is no 6 on a 4 would be to bet on 1,2,3 and 5.
06=1 1 3 (2,4,5,6)
So my fourth bet because there is no 6 on a 1 would be 2,3,4, and 5.
11=2 2 1 (3,4,5,6)
so my fifth bet because there is no 6 on a 2 would be 1,3,4 and 5. So far I have won 4 consecutive bets and I am winning 8 chips.
22=4 3 2 (1,5,6)
So my sixth bet because there is no 6 on a 4 would be 1,2,3 and 5. So far I have won 5 consecutive bets and I am winning 10 chips.
I am betting the way I would play as I am watching the video. I have a really old computer and it is very slow ;D
05=1 1 3 (2,4,5,6)
so my seventh bet because there is no 6 on a 1 would be to bet on 2,3,4 and 5. So far so good and I am winning 12 chips.
27=5 3 4 (1,2,6)
So my eigth bet because there is no 6 on a 5 would be to bet on 1,2,3 and 4. So that is 7 winning consecutive bets and I am up 14 chips.
02=1 3 2 (4,5,6)
That is now 8 winning bets on the trot. I am winning 16 chips.
so my 9th bet because there is no 6 on a 1 would be to bet on 2,3,4 and 5.
36=6 1 5 (2,3,4)
So for me that is a loss and I stop betting. I have won 12 chips in total.
I am going to the casino this afternoon but will be back late this evening and will spend some time trying to explain it in a bit more detail and give another example.
Bearing in mind I can play this in my sleep now, maybe I did not put it over in as easy a manner as I thought.
Also Sam I would like to thank you for making the video and spending the time to test it out. You put a lot of effort into working on peoples methods and you are to be congratulated.
regards
enrique.
Funny enough Sam, the way you played it did better in those spins than the way I would play :)
I never thought to play it like that but it could be worth a look.
Before the smoke started coming out of my pc it seemed like you had about 11 winners on the trot. I should put up the white flag. Seriously though this is a good way to play and it does give you some really long winning streaks. When I get ahead a good few units I sometimes use a positive progression with it. then if your luck is in you can come away with a nice few units profit.
regards
enrique
I tried searching this system but I couldn't find it? Can someone post the link?
Thanks
Quote from: madupz4 on November 24, 2008, 11:06:14 AM
I tried searching this system but I couldn't find it? Can someone post the link?
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/the-winning-edge/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/the-winning-edge/)
enrique
Thanks for you kind words. I will now go back and print your instructions and study them. I thought on the last group of instructions, you were just betting the missing d/s--all of them.
That is why I posted the video. For instruction.
Sam
enrique
I fail to see what I'm doing differently than you. Here is your post:
01=1 2 4 (3,5,6) I win again. my next bet is 2,3,4 and 5.
17=3 4 2 (1,5,6) I win again. my next bet is 1,2,4 and 5.
04=1 2 4 (3,5,6) I win again. my next bet is 2,3,4 and 5.
18=3 4 2 (1,5,6) I win again and now my total profit is up 14 chips. my next bet is 1,2,4 and 5.
04=1 2 4 (3,5,6) I win again. my next bet is 2,3,4 and 5.
20=4 5 3 (1,2,6) I win again. my next bet is 1,2,3, and 5.
32=6 2 2 (1,3,4,5) This is a loss and now I stop. the good news is that I made 16 chips profit very quickly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the blues are simply the double streets not included in the reds. That is the way I played it.
Sam
Quoting you
02=1 3 2 (4,5,6).......the 6 d/s came making a winner.
36=6 1 5 (2,3,4).......the 3 d/s came making a winner.
3 d/s 3 3 4 (1,2,5,6)......the 6 d/s came again next spin, a winner.
6 d/s
So for me that is a loss and I stop betting. I have won 12 chips in total.
me now........
As I understand it, your last bet would be on the 2,3,4 and the 3 came. How is that a loss?
enrique, I will post trot of numbers with video and accompanying scanned chart so you can see my hand writing. You may compare easier that way.
Sam
Here is the video
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Here is the chart.
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Sam,
Enrique Malou is playing the "no 6 set"
no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4 and 5
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4 and 5
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4 and 5
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3 and 5
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3 and 4
Which means you don't play the last hit street and you don't play street 6.
01=1 play 2,3,4,5( don't play 1 and 6)
17=3 win, play 1,2,4,5 (don't play 3 and 6)
04=1 win, play 2,3,4,5 (don't play 1 and 6)
18=3 win play 1,2,4,5 (don't play 3 and 6)
04=1 win play 2,3,4,5 (don't play 1 and 6)
20=4 win play 1,2,3,5 (don't play 4 and 6)
32=6 loss
This is how i understand Enrique Malou is playing.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
Sam,
base on your result(11-24-08 Riverbelle), if were to be played with the "no 6 set":
12=2 bet 1,3,4,5
16=3 win bet 1,2,4,5 (+12)
08=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+24)
11=2 loss (0)
20=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+12)
31=6 loss (-12)
27=5 no bet
09=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (0)
01=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+12)
28=5 win bet 1,2,3,4 (+24)
10=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+36)
02=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+48)
22=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+60)
06=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+72)
23=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+84)
30=5 win bet 1,2,3,4 (+96)
09=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+108)
This is how I "assume" Enrique Malou is playing with the "no 6 bet".
Assumption made in the above session:
1) 6 unit per street
2) continue betting when loss in repeating street (last hit street)
3) stop betting and wait when loss in street 6
***this is the way I assume how Enrique is playing. I made a few assumptions.
I consider this session a lucky session because the street didn't repeat much and street 6 went missing for sometime.
Question for Enrique:
When do you start betting "no 6 set"?
After how many spin street 6 didn't show only start betting?
And when to stop betting?
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 24, 2008, 03:55:08 AM
Me again....
This system goes to the casino with me!
Sam
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Sam,I got to give it to you.the system tester award of the year will be yours for sure.How is it going? Good?
Enrique and me have rip my local online casino for a while some months back by doubling the bankroll week in week out.I am not saying it wont lose but it will win more than it loses.
We have won thousands every week,I swear to god on this one.Enrique is the best witness to this
Quote from: NoBody on November 24, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
Sam,
base on your result(11-24-08 Riverbelle), if were to be played with the "no 6 set":
12=2 bet 1,3,4,5
16=3 win bet 1,2,4,5 (+12)
08=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+24)
11=2 loss (0)
20=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+12)
31=6 loss (-12)
27=5 no bet
09=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (0)
01=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+12)
28=5 win bet 1,2,3,4 (+24)
10=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+36)
02=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+48)
22=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+60)
06=1 win bet 2,3,4,5 (+72)
23=4 win bet 1,2,3,5 (+84)
30=5 win bet 1,2,3,4 (+96)
09=2 win bet 1,3,4,5 (+108)
This is how I "assume" Enrique Malou is playing with the "no 6 bet".
Assumption made in the above session:
1) 6 unit per street
2) continue betting when loss in repeating street (last hit street)
3) stop betting and wait when loss in street 6
***this is the way I assume how Enrique is playing. I made a few assumptions.
I consider this session a lucky session because the street didn't repeat much and street 6 went missing for sometime.
Question for Enrique:
When do you start betting "no 6 set"?
After how many spin street 6 didn't show only start betting?
And when to stop betting?
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
Hello Thomas,
Done with your exams?this is a good time.Enrique is back from his inter state touring and is now back at home.About his system,you can always ask him,I do not know much about it and I think it will be his pleasure to mentor and advice you.I call him "The Godfather of Roulette" but he always refuse to aknowledge.lol
Quote from: enrique malou on November 24, 2008, 10:27:01 AM
I am betting the way I would play as I am watching the video. I have a really old computer and it is very slow ;D
05=1 1 3 (2,4,5,6)
so my seventh bet because there is no 6 on a 1 would be to bet on 2,3,4 and 5. So far so good and I am winning 12 chips.
Its about time you get a new computer godfather,shall I provide some bankroll and we win some money from my local bookie to buy a new computer for your xmas present. ;)
Jerek,
Just catching my breath.
Exam is on 3rd of December. Struggling with the preparation,but will stop by the forum from time to time.
Looking forward to Enrique's system.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
Quote from: NoBody on November 24, 2008, 03:39:53 PM
Jerek,
Just catching my breath.
Exam is on 3rd of December. Struggling with the preparation,but will stop by the forum from time to time.
Looking forward to Enrique's system.
Regards,
NoBody ^.^
Well,its good to take a break away from studies and unwind a bit.When enrique just came back I told him there are a fans dying to know more about his systems.
Anyway good luck for your exams
@ Enrique,
Thomas is one of your biggest fans godfather,he wrote to me and ask about your system when you are away,at that point time I cant provide him much details. please give him your fullest attention and guidance.
Hello.
Jerek, thank you for the kind words. OK if you like I can be known as the godfather ;D
Mind you there are many godfathers on the VLS forum. VLS, Lanky, Two Cat Sam, Winkel and many more.
Sam, Nobody was right. When I was testing using the video you supplied I was using the "no 6 set" You were playing it different to that.
regards
enrique
I was impressed with your results, they were very good. Yes it was a lucky streak but you do get them often playing this way.
Like I was saying earlier I prefer to play the "no 6 set" because it seems to be more stable and produces long runs where the 6 is missing.
What I will eventually go on to show on my Winning Edge page is 4 methods and then show you how to combine them to come up with a very strong bet.
regards
enrique
I will go and do another example and come back and go through it.
regards
enrique
Quote from: enrique malou on November 24, 2008, 04:39:33 PM
Hello.
Jerek, thank you for the kind words. OK if you like I can be known as the godfather ;D
Mind you there are many godfathers on the VLS forum. VLS, Lanky, Two Cat Sam, Winkel and many more.
Sam, Nobody was right. When I was testing using the video you supplied I was using the "no 6 set" You were playing it different to that.
regards
enrique
I really love this place and with you back in action here as well,it just adds to the fun.
Let's start hammering those casinos! ;D
VLS Godfather of South America
Two Cat Sam Godfather of North America
Enrique Godfather of UK
Lanky Godfather of Oceania
Winkel Godfather of Germany
Looks like there is none from Asia ;D
Asians suck at roulette Lmao
jerek
Thanks for the kind words!
enrique
I shall wait for your example! Tell me how I can help.
Sam
Yes, this is fun!
Here is an example where I will use the the "no 1 set"
no 1 on a 2. bet 2,4,6.
no 1 on a 3. bet 2,3,5,6.
no 1 on a 4. bet 2,3,4,6.
no 1 on a 5. bet 2,4,5.
no 1 on a 6. bet 3,4,5,6.
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28=5 3 4 (1,2,6) So the double streets missing are 1,2 and 6. Sam I think the way you would have done it then according to your video would be to back the 3,4 and 5. But the way I do it using the "no 1 set" chart is to say that there was no 1 set and now looking at the number 28=5. I say that there is no 1 on a 5. So looking at the "no 1 set" chart, no 1 on a 5 would tell me to bet 2,4 and 5.
19=4 2 5 (1,3,6) so the double streets missing are 1,3 and 6. This is where I think you now would have bet 2,4 and 5. But again looking at the chart and looking at the number 19=4. I would say now that there is no 1 on a 4 and that would tell me to bet 2,3,4 and 6.
16=3 5 5 (1,2,4,6) so the double streets missing are 1,2,4 and 6. I would now say that there is no 1 on a 3 and would bet 2,3,5 and 6.
25=5 5 2 (1,3,4,6) This particular example is from a trip last week to a Birmingham casino and it went on a winning run of 15.
The longest winning run I have enjoyed playing this part of the system was when the 6 double street was missing and I won 26 times in a row. It is days like that I look forward to ;)
If you think about and I don't know if it makes a difference or not but if I am playing when the 6 is missing it means a repeat on one of the double streets is what beats me.
So for example if you have
5 5 2
5 6 6 there is a repeat of the 5.
or maybe
2 5 3
6 5 4 There is a repeat of the 5.
So bearing in mind there are 6 double streets, you can go long periods of time without seeing one of these repeats.
regards
enrique.
VLS Godfather of South America
Two Cat Sam Godfather of North America
Enrique Godfather of UK
Lanky Godfather of Oceania
Winkel Godfather of Germany
We have them cornered now Jerek, there is no where for them to run.
I know one thing for sure. With your dedication and persistence, you will be up there with any knowledgable player in quick time.
The sort of effort Sam put into testing the G.U.T is now bringing him the rewards he deserves. It is true of anything and roulette is no different that the more effort you put, then the more you get out.
A famous golfer once said that the more work he puts in, the luckier he gets. I have a feeling it is true for roulette as well in my opinion.
regards
enrique.
These are our numbers:
20
4
8
5
12
Enrique, could you tell me if I'm doing the second and third number right?
20=4
4=1 1 3
8=2 2 1
5=1 4 5
12=2 2 1
Sam
Hello Sam, yes they are spot on.
Ah, we are on the road to succes!!
enrique
As time and wife permit, I will do a test with the "No Six" chart.
Sam
Quote from: enrique malou on November 24, 2008, 05:28:53 PM
VLS Godfather of South America
Two Cat Sam Godfather of North America
Enrique Godfather of UK
Lanky Godfather of Oceania
Winkel Godfather of Germany
We have them cornered now Jerek, there is no where for them to run.
I know one thing for sure. With your dedication and persistence, you will be up there with any knowledgable player in quick time.
The sort of effort Sam put into testing the G.U.T is now bringing him the rewards he deserves. It is true of anything and roulette is no different that the more effort you put, then the more you get out.
A famous golfer once said that the more work he puts in, the luckier he gets. I have a feeling it is true for roulette as well in my opinion.
regards
enrique.
Hi Enrique,
We still need someone to cover Africa as well,Dean should be able to fit into that godfather position after demonstrating winning 1000 units in one seating
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Thank you for your encouragement,there was a time when some people here misunderstood me and condamn me as a desperado and accuse I me of chasing the holy grail too much,I was even accuse of stalking others for systems and trying to rip others off of their systems without putting any effort of my own.I was even being PM to read this thread
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It really hurt me very deeply as I was wronged and misjudged for being zealous about roulette.I did put in effort playing 4 hours a day that is not inclusive of reading roulette books and testing systems.I do not claim that I am a high roller neither did I boost about my skills and knowledge as I am still a beginner after all.My unit size is $5 to $10 depending if its an outside or inside bet.This sort of bet size is really normal standard not really hell of a lot.Personally, I feel that since I am spending time playing roulette it must be worth my time despite winning or losing.I do not understand why people like to bet peanuts of 10ct and 20ct,are they monkeys?Why should they spend hours playing to win a few dollars.They will be better off doing something else besides roulette or if really need to test a system they can always use play money.
I know I will be a target of flaming after this posting but I couldn't care less.We are playing roulette as an extra income and some of us playing for bread and butter.By playing peanuts what happiness does it bring you and what will be your prize after 4 hours of play ?Nothing at all,you might as well use play money.
Just my 2 cents worth
Wonderful!
This seems like a system I would like to learn but I am just stuck on the bet selection. How does it work? I have been trying to figure it out for some hours now, but I seem to be missing the point :-[
Let me use the example of the first selection in TwoCatSam:
First 36 appeared. Then 23.
I understand that 36 is on the 6th double street
and 23 is on the a 4th double street
What gives absolutely no meaning to me is how counting from 6 to 4 gives you 4 and 5 based on this chart from Enrique:
First line
1.1
2.6
3.2
4.5
5.3
6.4
Second
1.1
2.2
3.3
4.4
5.5
6.6
I have tried every possible way I could think about counting from 6 to 4 and getting these numbers and I just don't get it :-\ Help would be very appreciated.
8-4
Disregard the numbers on the left. Use this:
Chart 1
1
6
2
5
3
4
Chart 2
1
2
3
4
5
6
Sam
eightfour
Here is a two-minute video which explains it all.
Notice the G.U.T total!
Sam
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Jerek My Friend.
You & I have become good Friends & I know Your Heart Mate.....It's a good one Cobber.
And I don't think You meant that as it came out as it was written.
You are a good person & I have reason to thank You for things as well as You do to Me....So We are even in that regard.
You are a good Member to the Forum & are entitled to Your opinion My Mate....just like the rest of us are.
I am not going to Flame You as You put it but I am going to explain something to You from another point of view My Mate.
About those people that bet in 10 or 20 cents or even less.
It could be that is all that those people can afford to bet with at this stage of their life.
In fact some may even be going out on a limb by doing that.
Using the scenario of having 2000 times the minimum unit bet for a Bank ,it could be that those people can only get their hands on that amount of money.
Like 10c x 2000=$200 & 20c x2000=$400..Etc.
As You have said You bet in $5 or $10 bets now that would mean that a Lifetime Bank for $5=$10,000 And for $10 it is $20,000.
Now we know that Victor was playing $5 units & had a $10,000 Bank when He successfully put Food on the table for His Family from the Winnings on the Lw Method.
I used the same principles as Victor did Last Year only on a smaller scale. My minimum bet was $1.
Sometimes the min was $25 units
It depended on what table I was playing & its minimum unit.
I won just over $5200.
And that included $750 worth of losses.
I won't make that amount this Year due to Illness but I have still won just over 100% of My Bank so far.
Now lets assume that the person with a 10c unit won 2.5% a session. And he did the same as Me.
He would have won $520
So what's He done ??
He has made $520 for the Year...That's a 260% profit.
More importantly He now has Money that He can spend on His Family.
Money that He won from a 1st bet of 10c.
The point I am trying to make is that it did not matter what unit size was used the Percentages on starting Bank would have been exactly the same.
And lets face it in these economic times $520 could be a fortune to someone.
Now if You are a person that can afford a bigger unit Bet then that's great & I wish You all the very best.
But if You are a person that can only afford bets from 1c upwards and are being successful with it then take no notice of those that say You should be betting bigger...Block it out from Your mind.
The important thing is that You are enjoying Yourself doing it & if You are successful then You are developing a Winning Mindset.
Who knows You may develop or tweak something that will work for You & bigger & better things may happen for You further into the future.
Another very important point is that people have a threshold that they are comfortable betting with.
They can handle that when they are comfortable with that particular bet size.
Some freeze & just can't bring themselves to having that size bet.
Even Victor said this happened to Him about a year or so ago when He went to bigger units.
And lets face it if You are going to make a mistake is easier to recover from small betting units then large ones.
Like in the last 2 sessions I have played ,one as late as Yesterday I have won a total of $142.
That's not a lot of Money but they all add up & that's a 7.1% profit on My Bank.
I guess everyone has different ideas on what should & should not be done.
But if You're a small better don't be discouraged about it.
It's the percentage You win at the end of the year that will determine Your success.
And remember this .
Its not what You win that Matters .
Its how much You don't Lose that Counts.
Your Friend.
Lanky.
For those who doesn't understand how the numbers come about.
Example:
36=6
23=4 4 4 (1,2,3,5,6)
First number 4 is the double street
Eg: 36 is the 6th double street, 23 is the 4th double street
Second number 4 is the distance of the double street in Chart 1.
Eg: 36=6, 24=4 --> so it is from 6 to 4
Chart 1
1
6 (Start from here till 4)
2 (1)
5 (2)
3 (3)
4 (4)-----> the distance from 6 to 4 is 4 numbers apart, so 4 is the second number
Third number 4 is the distance of double street in Chart 2.
Eg. 36=6, 24=4 --> so it is from 6 to 4
Chart 2
1 (1)
2 (2)
3 (3)
4 (4)----> the distance from 6 to 4 is 4 numbers apart, so 4 is the third number
5
6 (Start here, so coming down from the top)
The numbers in bracket (1,2,3,5,6) is the numbers that are missing.
Eg: 24=4 4 4---> we only have 4, (1,2,3,5,6) is missing.
There we have it:
23=4 4 4 (1,2,3,5,6)
I hope that solves your question eightfour.
Regards,
Nobody ^.^
Hi guys!
First of all THANK YOU Enrique for sharing this :)
I have read through it all some times, trying to really understand this, and i think i almost get it.
Here's what confuses me:
I'm not sure, but i think the way Sam played it in the first video, is only ment to be used for tracking the D/S no. that is the most absent for x amount of spins. And then when knowing which one seems absent, you start using the corresponding charts. Is this correct Enrique?
If it's correct, then my next question is this: For how many spins should a D/S no. be absent, for you to play it's corresponding chart?
I hope i have expressed myself clearly, I really want to understand this fully.
Best Regards
Kingpin
Kingpin
I was doing it wrong in my videos. All I was doing was this: I used the two charts to select three d/s and I bet on the remaining d/s unless there were five. I did not bet on the ones the charts selected, I bet on the ones not selected. For example:
10=2 d/s
15=3 d/s Now, using the charts, I have to get from 2 to 3.
2
3 2 1.......Now I would bet the three remaining: 4 5 6.
While this method may be wrong in that it's not what enrique meant, it's a pretty darn good way to play. I think I will test it further.
Sam
Just want to say thank you Sam for your videos. They helped me understand the system (even though it wasnt 100% correct :)) I think i pretty much get the idea now.
Take care [smiley=Santa001.gif]
/Worm
Worm
(We have a bar in Oklahoma City called "The Wormy Dog")
Thanks
I may try this my "wrong" way as sometimes great things are discovered by accident. Believe it or don't, the glue on a post-it note is such an thing!
Sam
Quote from: Lanky on November 25, 2008, 12:38:42 AM
Jerek My Friend.
You & I have become good Friends & I know Your Heart Mate.....It's a good one Cobber.
Hello lanky,you are on a different level as me,I regard you as a my mentor
And I don't think You meant that as it came out as it was written.
Yes some words are out of anger for the opression that I suffered by others for judge and accuse me of being a bad person with a lousy character
You are a good person & I have reason to thank You for things as well as You do to Me....So We are even in that regard.
You are a good Member to the Forum & are entitled to Your opinion My Mate....just like the rest of us are.
My dear mentor,my contributions to this forum is nothing compared to yours,you have spend time and effort trying to teach,explain and moderating the forum.If I am a good person/member then why do others accuse me of being a stalker for systems and not putting any effort at all in roulette,I am really hurt by that becos I did put in a lot of effort.
I am not going to Flame You as You put it but I am going to explain something to You from another point of view My Mate.
About those people that bet in 10 or 20 cents or even less.
It could be that is all that those people can afford to bet with at this stage of their life.
In fact some may even be going out on a limb by doing that.
Using the scenario of having 2000 times the minimum unit bet for a Bank ,it could be that those people can only get their hands on that amount of money.
Like 10c x 2000=$200 & 20c x2000=$400..Etc.
As You have said You bet in $5 or $10 bets now that would mean that a Lifetime Bank for $5=$10,000 And for $10 it is $20,000.
Now we know that Victor was playing $5 units & had a $10,000 Bank when He successfully put Food on the table for His Family from the Winnings on the Lw Method.
The really surprise me mate,it seems like I am putting big bets with a peanut bankroll of only 2000.
I used the same principles as Victor did Last Year only on a smaller scale. My minimum bet was $1.
Sometimes the min was $25 units
It depended on what table I was playing & its minimum unit.
I won just over $5200.
And that included $750 worth of losses.
I won't make that amount this Year due to Illness but I have still won just over 100% of My Bank so far.
Now lets assume that the person with a 10c unit won 2.5% a session. And he did the same as Me.
He would have won $520
So what's He done ??
He has made $520 for the Year...That's a 260% profit.
More importantly He now has Money that He can spend on His Family.
Money that He won from a 1st bet of 10c.
The point I am trying to make is that it did not matter what unit size was used the Percentages on starting Bank would have been exactly the same.
And lets face it in these economic times $520 could be a fortune to someone.
Now if You are a person that can afford a bigger unit Bet then that's great & I wish You all the very best.
But if You are a person that can only afford bets from 1c upwards and are being successful with it then take no notice of those that say You should be betting bigger...Block it out from Your mind.
The important thing is that You are enjoying Yourself doing it & if You are successful then You are developing a Winning Mindset.
Who knows You may develop or tweak something that will work for You & bigger & better things may happen for You further into the future.
Another very important point is that people have a threshold that they are comfortable betting with.
They can handle that when they are comfortable with that particular bet size.
Some freeze & just can't bring themselves to having that size bet.
Even Victor said this happened to Him about a year or so ago when He went to bigger units.
And lets face it if You are going to make a mistake is easier to recover from small betting units then large ones.
Like in the last 2 sessions I have played ,one as late as Yesterday I have won a total of $142.
That's not a lot of Money but they all add up & that's a 7.1% profit on My Bank.
I guess everyone has different ideas on what should & should not be done.
But if You're a small better don't be discouraged about it.
It's the percentage You win at the end of the year that will determine Your success.
And remember this .
Its not what You win that Matters .
Its how much You don't Lose that Counts.
Lanky thanks for all the advices,I will look into what you have said and really think about it,its being very stressful for me the past 2 weeks despite winning $5700,I have a bad feeling that I ma going to hit the wall very soon,its coming I know,I can feel it.this is a record breaking win ever since I started playing and I am feeling a bit paranoid of losing everything back.
Cheers mate.
@Sam
Yeah I get what you're saying mate, but I was talking about the other charts, these ones:
QuoteHello. I will now print out the chart for all 6 double street numbers that can go missing.
no 1 on a 2. bet 2,4,6.
no 1 on a 3. bet 2,3,5,6.
no 1 on a 4. bet 2,3,4,6.
no 1 on a 5. bet 2,4,5.
no 1 on a 6. bet 3,4,5,6.
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no 2 on a 1. bet 1,4,5,6.
no 2 on a 3. bet 3,4,6.
no 2 on a 4. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 2 on a 5. bet 3,5,6.
no 2 on a 6. bet 1,3,4,6.
------------------------
no 3 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
no 3 on a 2. bet 1,2,6.
no 3 on a 4. bet 4,5,6.
no 3 on a 5. bet 4,5,6.
no 3 on a 6. bet 1,2,4,5,6.
-------------------------
no 4 on a 1. bet 1,2,6.
no 4 on a 2. bet 2,3,5.
no 4 on a 3. bet 3,5,6.
no 4 on a 5. bet 1,2,5.
no 4 on a 6. bet 1,2,3,5,6.
-------------------------
no 5 on a 1. bet 1,2,3.
no 5 on a 2. bet 2,3,4.
no 5 on a 3. bet 1,3,4,6.
no 5 on a 4. bet 1,2,4,6.
no 5 on a 6. bet 2,3,4,6.
------------------------
no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4,5.
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3,5.
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3,4.
------------------------
I would like to know this: For how many spins should a double street number be missing, in order to decide what chart to use?Enrique says that the one missing the most is no. 6. And therefore he mostly use the 6th chart, this one:
no 6 on a 1. bet 2,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 2. bet 1,3,4,5.
no 6 on a 3. bet 1,2,4,5.
no 6 on a 4. bet 1,2,3,5.
no 6 on a 5. bet 1,2,3,4.
------------------------
What I understand from this is: Dont bet the last hit street, and the 6th street because it's claimed to be absent...
However the other five charts seem to have different patterns, and that puzzles me. I hope Enrique will give a further explanation of this in his section...
And here's the last question: If we are using these six charts, then what is all the counting for (the way sam did in the video)?
My take on it is that this counting is used to determine which doublestreet numbers are absent. And then knowing this, being able to choose one of the 6 charts to use for betting...
I hope I haven't confused you guys, i'm just trying to understand this.
Best Regards
Kingpin
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 25, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Worm
(We have a bar in Oklahoma City called "The Wormy Dog")
Thanks
I may try this my "wrong" way as sometimes great things are discovered by accident. Believe it or don't, the glue on a post-it note is such an thing!
Sam
Sam,the videos are always good.A picture tell a thousand words,it defines everything clearly.thanks for the effort
QuoteLanky thanks for all the advices,I will look into what you have said and really think about it,its being very stressful for me the past 2 weeks despite winning $5700,I have a bad feeling that I ma going to hit the wall very soon,its coming I know,I can feel it.this is a record breaking win ever since I started playing and I am feeling a bit paranoid of losing everything back.
Jerek My Friend.
After the chat this morning I know that You have won some more money.
And I am delighted for You Mate.
But why not now have 4 X $2000 Banks.
If You hit the wall like You say you will (and I hope You do Not) then you will be still 200% in Profit after a $2000 loss.
You can't get that kind of interest from a Bank My Friend.
Here is a Saying that I believe in Jerek.
"There is Always an End to a Winning Run.
But
There may Never be an End to a Loseing Run."
I wish You well in whatever You do Cobber.
I am just trying to help that's all.
Lanky.
Quote from: Lanky on November 26, 2008, 03:11:12 AM
QuoteLanky thanks for all the advices,I will look into what you have said and really think about it,its being very stressful for me the past 2 weeks despite winning $5700,I have a bad feeling that I ma going to hit the wall very soon,its coming I know,I can feel it.this is a record breaking win ever since I started playing and I am feeling a bit paranoid of losing everything back.
Jerek My Friend.
After the chat this morning I know that You have won some more money.
And I am delighted for You Mate.
But why not now have 4 X $2000 Banks.
If You hit the wall like You say you will (and I hope You do Not) then you will be still 200% in Profit after a $2000 loss.
You can't get that kind of interest from a Bank My Friend.
Here is a Saying that I believe in Jerek.
"There is Always an End to a Winning Run.
But
There may Never be an End to a Loseing Run."
I wish You well in whatever You do Cobber.
I am just trying to help that's all.
Lanky.
Hello Lanky,
As a mentor you have given me everything you know,so did victor,sam and enrique.This is a fear that I need to overcome.I have to lose even though I don't like it,it has to happen.No one can win forever,its a fact and the ultimate truth.The solution is to take it right in the face and overcome it and the best way I can think of is to walk over when the losing crap starts,to tell you the truth,I was up another S$700 in the morning after we spoke,the rhythm was going good,the wheel was throwing out numbers I want,the odds are on my side.I was playing LWs following the trend style $30 to $50 a unit up as you win progression.Its not about a matter of greed,a thought just came to me,the table is going to turn against me.I stop even when I was high on a winning streak I could have won more.I guess I need to overcome this on my own.
Thank you for your words of wisdom my friend.
My only concern now is my good friend Ryan,knowing his style of play and his classic martingale progression as his favourite,he hits the wall but he never felt the pain becos his unit is 10ct.Try playing $30 to $50 a unit,your hands will be shivering.If I were to play 10cts a unit,I dont even care if I am using martingale and went up to 1000 units.Its nothing just peanuts.
Well maybe don't use progressions? There will be no hand shivering.
Quote from: Shorty on November 26, 2008, 07:15:38 AM
Well maybe don't use progressions? There will be no hand shivering.
Hello Shorty,
Thank you for your contributions,I am not very experienced compared to you to be real honest.
I did ask myself many a times when I started playing roulette how can we overcome the house edge of 2.75%?Even now I am still asking myself this question.When I learn from seasoned sailors of the games,many can testified that there is no mathematics formula to overcome the house edge only by using progression negative or postive.
Again there is many schools of thought on this subject,as for me I believe that progression is necessary,some will disagree with me defintely.with my limited knowledege of this beautiful game,the only method that will gain advantage with flat bets is either VB,biased wheel attacks and maybe GUT maybe ok?
So question is will i test this Sams way or Enriqes way :D
Quote from: Worm on November 26, 2008, 09:31:59 AM
So question is will I test this Sams way or Enriqes way :D
Rightfully should be enrique's method ;)
jerek
I absolutely agree. This is no my way in any way shape or form. I never should have posted that first video until I cleared it through enrique for accuracy.
I am going to test it, but if it win's money, I would want enrique to name it (If he so desires..) and that's the end of it.
Hope this is clear.
Sam
enrique
Considering the NO chart, let's say I had this:
4= 2 5 1
Now when you say "No 1 on a 2" I also have no 3, 4, 5, and 6 on a 2 if you study the chart. So when my last d/s was 2, how do I know which "NO" line to use on it? Do I pick one at the beginning and stick with it? Do you look for the d/s that has been absent longest or the hot one?
I want to test this with small amounts of real money. Is the first one you posted--where you only bet 18 numbers and do not bet for the 5 or 6 double street-- as good as any to test?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 26, 2008, 11:46:04 AM
jerek
I absolutely agree. This is no my way in any way shape or form. I never should have posted that first video until I cleared it through enrique for accuracy.
I am going to test it, but if it win's money, I would want enrique to name it (If he so desires..) and that's the end of it.
Hope this is clear.
Sam
Hello Sam,
I really appreciate your effort in making those videos,it really defines the way a system is played.A picture tell a thousand words,sometimes even after reading its still a bit difficult to comprehend as I am still a beginner at roulette and being a chinese pig just make the understanding with words even harder.
In fact,I picked up the basics of GUT from your videos it sures beats doing a lot of guess work on my own and getting it wrong.While I am still in elementary school of roulette,most of the guys here are already in high school or university.I got a lot to catch up and your videos just helps with to catch up faster.
I know you have also invested equipments,software and dedicate your time to do videos,big thank you to you once again.Besides playing roulette and testing systems, have you ever thought of making porn movies?Might be a good source of income as well ;D
jerek
What is this word "porn"? Is this Chinese pig Latin?
Sam
Regarding Enrique's system.
It's complete blarney. In other words BS.
As painful as it was, I took the time to read most of it on GG.
The fact that you think it's even worth testing is a little alarming.
-Herb
Hi Herb this is for you [smiley=3D-petit/ztuy.gif]
/Worm
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 24, 2008, 08:47:30 PM
Disregard the numbers on the left. Use this:
Chart 1
1
6
2
5
3
4
Chart 2
1
2
3
4
5
6
Sam
Use this how?
I'd love to try this when I understand it. However, it seems to be a complex betting method that bets half the table (3 streets/6-lines) and when you bet half the table you'll win half the time generally speaking. If there's an advantage with using this bet selection I'd like to understand it though as I've said. But really, there is many ways to bet half the table (or wheel).
Roules
@Roules
I agree with you on that one. I have a hard time seeing why this should be better than any other 50% chance bet...?
Kingpin
Quote from: Mr Chips on November 26, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
The fact that your blowing Herb kisses is even more alarming :o :o :o
Ever heard of sarcasm? [smiley=bath.gif]
Any update on this, hows the testing going? ;)
Well, Gang, don't hold your breath, but I think (once again) I am on to something.
I have bastardized enrique's system to fit what I did the first time I tried it. I made a mistake in reading how he did it, and my "MM" (mistake method) seems to work very well indeed. I am using it on RNG. You can play like a madman; no decisions!! No gambler's intelligence.
I am preparing the charts. I will give you a hint:
5.......penultimate d/s
4.......last d/s
Here are the questions you ask:
1. Are the last two double streets the same?
2. Is the last one a 6?
If your smarter-than-a-computer brain returns NO to each question, you go to the charts to see if you have a bet. You will bet three double streets when you do bet.
This thing has shown a small profit over hundreds of spins and has overcome the times when you don't bet and have to make a dummy bet. I bet the first dozen and the large numbers. Sometimes this goes on a loosing streak and eats your profits.
This method has not seen six losers in a row in several hundred spins. The wL patterns run in waves, like enrigue said, and you get a few winners and a few losers. Sooner or later the winners outpace the losers and profit results.
This is a perfect system for a progression player. Your bets jump all over the board; you are not locked into RED or ODD for the duration.
When the sheets are posted, I think you will enjoy this system.
Sam
Mjao.. :D
Intersting Sam i think this Is my style when it comes to betting. I think I know how you are betting this but looking forward to see your findings.
Take care
/Worm [smiley=beer.gif]
Very simple to use.
If your last two d/s are found on the chart, bet the (). If the 0 comes, pay the tax and don't include it in your charting. Example:
1
0
3 would be
1
3..(156)
Still has not gone over five loses in a row.
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So if I have this correctly, you would chart last 2 d/s and play what is in parenthesis for each spin? And you have not seen more than 5 losses in a row? Are you playing this flat? I am just now jumping in on this system ;)
cps10
Yes, you have it!
I am playing it flat, but this is a progression player's dream! Attached is a worksheet where you can see what I'm doing. Where there is no (), there is no bet.
THIS IS ENRIQUE'S SYSTEM WITH MY TWEAK. IF IT'S GOOD, ALL THANKS GOES TO ENRIQUE! I JUST WANT THE $$$$
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Ty Sam for your effort, will test this one out for sure [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Worm
Everyone should!!
I am betting $5 per d/s and went up $100 since my last post. This is beastly fast and I'm flat betting, so no figuring!. I am playing Golden Casino and I don't know the software.
Sam
Another $100 since my last post. About 12 minutes.
My back is killing me. Must stop!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 29, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
Another $100 since my last post. About 12 minutes.
My back is killing me. Must stop!
Sam
100 units in 12 mins?thats awesome man.Wait till enrique reads this he has been missing in action for a couple of days,no news from him at all.I try calling him over the phone cant seem to get thru,maybe he went out of his hometown for a while
Blimey Sam.......ur going for it now!!!!...gonna jump right in and see how I do...........amazing results for you so far...good luck everyone. :)
jerek
I hope he's happy with me!! I'm going to try again for a few more dollars!
Sam
Had a 6 in a raw loss but 2 zeros in that one ;)
Using Prog i still made it up to +9 units after that 6 in a raw!![smiley=Santa001.gif]
Hi Sam! I had a 9 in a row loss earlier. However, I do think that if you were to play some sort of Oscar's Grind with this baby, you could clean house to be sure.
Just had a tough session!!
I went down $200 and came up $202!! Made 2 bucks.
I think the RNG sent the 0 after me. Lord, they were thick as flies. I hung on!! Fought that rapscallion!
Still I never lost over 5 in a row.
Sam
Sam - long may it continue! I am going to test on DB tonight with some ideas on this system...like Oscar's Grind.
I tested this with Kiwi Casino with Real Money Mode Numbers. After 500 spins I was up $15 using $1 units. The lowest I went in the red was about $30 and in the highest in the green about $20. Is this system meant for RNGs or Live casinos. The system was played with flat bets. Im fairly new to this system. Maybe I didn't code the system right. Could someone conform my results? Cheers
First bit of results
Enrique's "Winning Edge" using TwoCatSam d/s Chart for betting. Coded by Tiago2 for NWRScripter
Number Spun:25
Number Spun:35
Number Spun:20
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 4
No Bet
Number Spun:36
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:33
Number Spun:19
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 4
No Bet
Number Spun:25
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:15
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:12
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 2
Betting on (1, 3, 6)
Number Spun:29
Penultimate d/s : 2. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (2, 4, 6)
Number Spun:18
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:28
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 5
No Bet
Number Spun:33
Number Spun:33
Number Spun:14
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:18
Number Spun:16
Number Spun:30
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 5
No Bet
Number Spun:35
Number Spun:4
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 1
No Bet
Number Spun:20
Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (1, 2, 6)
Number Spun:18
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:27
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 5
No Bet
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:5
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 1
Betting on (3, 5, 6)
Number Spun:23
Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (1, 2, 6)
Number Spun:25
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:33
Number Spun:13
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:20
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:15
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:20
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:34
Number Spun:29
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 5
No Bet
Number Spun:15
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:13
Number Spun:30
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 5
No Bet
Number Spun:36
Number Spun:6
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 1
No Bet
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (1, 5, 6)
Number Spun:16
Number Spun:31
Number Spun:32
Number Spun:33
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:9
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 2
Betting on (1, 3, 6)
Number Spun:2
Penultimate d/s : 2. Last d/s : 1
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:24
Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (1, 2, 6)
Number Spun:29
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (2, 3, 6)
Number Spun:17
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:4
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 1
Betting on (3, 5, 6)
Number Spun:26
Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (1, 4, 6)
Number Spun:13
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 3
Betting on (2, 5, 6)
Number Spun:3
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 1
Betting on (3, 5, 6)
Number Spun:34
Number Spun:13
Penultimate d/s : 6. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:12
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 2
Betting on (1, 3, 6)
Number Spun:21
Penultimate d/s : 2. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (1, 5, 6)
Number Spun:23
Number Spun:16
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 3
No Bet
Number Spun:10
Penultimate d/s : 3. Last d/s : 2
Betting on (1, 3, 6)
Number Spun:11
Number Spun:30
Penultimate d/s : 2. Last d/s : 5
Betting on (2, 4, 6)
Number Spun:22
Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 4
Betting on (1, 3, 6)
Number Spun:3
Penultimate d/s : 4. Last d/s : 1
No Bet
Can someone explain this in plain English for us idiots out here? A BIG thanks.
OK, I'm playing the Golden Casino RNG. I started playing $1 bets and went to $5 bets. That's per street. $15.00 per spin. Today I am up $515. Here is a screen shot:
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Would anyone like a tutorial movie?
Quote from: Wally Gator on November 30, 2008, 12:33:18 AM
Can someone explain this in plain English for us idiots out here? A BIG thanks.
Took me about an hour, reading the posts, watching the videos to figure out how this system works. Still not sure if I got it right... I wont try to explain it to you incase I've got it wrong.
Anyway I've done another test. This time with progressions implement. I used a progression of 1, 2, 3, 7, 14, 28.
Here are the rusult for 179 spins. In the end the balance was up $84 using $1 units. It seem to work quite well with progression on first impression. This was only one test. Still need to do more and make sure my understanding of this system is correct. Will also try to come up with a graph display of how the bankroll held up during the entire run. If anyone wants to test this system on Playtech casinos I'll be happy to upload the script Im using. Just let me know
Enrique's "Winning Edge" using TwoCatSam d/s Chart for betting. Coded by Tiago2 for NWRScripter
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Betting $2 on (1, 4, 6)
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Betting $7 on (2, 3, 6)
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Penultimate d/s : 1. Last d/s : 3
Betting $28 on (1, 5, 6)
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Penultimate d/s : 5. Last d/s : 2
Betting $1 on (1, 4, 6)
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Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 30, 2008, 12:47:48 AM
OK, I'm playing the Golden Casino RNG. I started playing $1 bets and went to $5 bets. That's per street. $15.00 per spin. Today I am up $515.
Not bad. Are you using flat bets or a progression? Not having much luck with flat bets on Kiwi Casino....:(
All.......
Posts 62 and 64 are very explanatory! How anyone could not grasp it is beyond me. I made the chart so you don't have to count the numbers off; it's done for you. Just look at the posts!
Again, I ask, does anyone want a tutorial movie? This is the simplest system ever posted! Honestly!
Sam
I am using flat $5 per street bets. No progression.
Sam,
Consider me stupid. Yes, I'd like the video .... thanks so much.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 29, 2008, 05:39:04 PM
Very simple to use.
If your last two d/s are found on the chart, bet the (). If the 0 comes, pay the tax and don't include it in your charting. Example:
1
0
3 would be
1
3..(156)
Still has not gone over five loses in a row.
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QuoteCan someone explain this in plain English for us idiots out here? A BIG thanks.
I think I got it (much better diagram here thanks Sam) but I'll check anyways....
You look back at the last two double streets to hit and look at the chart.
Eg:
17 (doublestreet 3)
12 (doublestreet 2)
Looking at the chart we go
column 3 (second last DS hit)
then down to number 2 (last DS hit)
so next bet is Doublestreets 1 3 6
If there's no match then it's a no bet. Would it hurt to put an insurance bet on zero?
???
Can you put us out of our misery pls Sam. This looks interesting :)
roules
Your explanation is spot on!
Sam
Got some graphcs up that display how this system holds up with Flat bets and Progressions
Playing with progression of 1,2,3,7,14,28 with Real Money Mode numbers from Kiwi casino. The progression only died after 250 spins.
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Program's Internal RNG with 501 spins
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Friends......
I have made a very good video for you. It is a little over an hour long, but it shows everything you need to know.
It also shows how I can do down over $100 and then recover in just a few bets. I even made one mistake. I stopped at 555 and I should have had 570. Tired!!!!
The video will not be ready for a couple of hours. It has to upload and finalize.
If I wake up to pee, I'll post it. If not, I'll do it tomorrow.
Sam
Thanks alot TwoCatSam :). Looking forwards to it. May you have a good rest now!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 29, 2008, 07:50:00 PM
jerek
I hope he's happy with me!! I'm going to try again for a few more dollars!
Sam
Sam when I spoke of my investment with enrique a long time ago,we are winning thousands weekly,I just gave him 500 for a start up,He was playing I was doing nothing only going to the post office every monday to western union his share of the money to him.No one believe me,not one at all.Only enrique can testified to that.I can say that my interest in roulette is also mainly inspired by him,so much money has been won my goodness.Trust me on this
Iam gonna test this with Oscar´s grind aswell.[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Quote from: Worm on November 30, 2008, 08:59:02 AM
Iam gonna test this with Oscar´s grind aswell.[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Worth giving it a try. ;)
Made a small lucky test at Expekt I like to share
Expekt live roulette 30 mins
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N/B Dealer made a false spinn (they suck at expekt)
N/B
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N/B kinda stop here
My lucky day today? Dont know when I had 9 E/C right in a raw..[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Quote from: Worm on November 30, 2008, 09:42:51 AM
Made a small lucky test at Expekt I like to share
Expekt live roulette 30 mins
W
L
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N/B
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N/B Dealer made a false spinn (they suck at expekt)
N/B
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N/B kinda stop here
My lucky day today? Dont know when I had 9 E/C right in a raw..[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Betting for real or virtual bet?
Jerek, wish i played real but only virtual that session :'( I like to test it a bit more b4 getting in for real [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
Have a nice sunday guys[smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
Quote from: Worm on November 30, 2008, 10:56:39 AM
Jerek, wish I played real but only virtual that session :'( I like to test it a bit more b4 getting in for real [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif]
Have a nice sunday guys[smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]
its good to test and be really sure before playing for real,cheers mate
Quote from: TwoCatSam on November 29, 2008, 06:51:09 PM
Worm
Everyone should!!
I am betting $5 per d/s and went up $100 since my last post. This is beastly fast and I'm flat betting, so no figuring!. I am playing Golden Casino and I don't know the software.
Sam
i've seen strange things in the past playing golden casino fun mode sam....try flat betting one number with 100$ chips and you will be over 10 000$ in one hour
from my presonal experience I recommend you to play with live wheel instead of rng fun mode
kompressor
I am playing for real money.
Sam
Hello guys. I was mostly away the last 3/4 days playing and now that I am back I will carry on putting the rest of my system in the section VLS provided for me.
Sam, well done on getting some good results. That is brilliant news. I like your variation, it seems to throw some good consistent winning runs which is what winning at this game is all about.
Jerek. Hello my friend, I hope you are well. It does not really matter what other people believe or not. The reality of the matter is that we screwed the casino bad enough that they tried to cheat us in the end out of our winnings. remember the number 2 incident. ;)
regards
enrique
Glad to see you on this forum Enrique, keep up the good work [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
All
I have tried for ten hours to get my video to Motion Box. They have improved their service to the point of it being useless.
I will continue to try.
It is a very good teaching video.
Thanks, enrique.
Sam
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I mistakenly said I went up $100; it was ninety-something.
Questions?
Sam
Sam,
Hi..is it possible to e-mail the video file to me???As I put in a thread elsewhere ,I seem unable to watch the videos you do.
I would appreciate your help in this ,if it is at all possble.
Thanks
TSK.
Hi,
The video is with sound ?
If so, maybe a need a codec (don't know which...).
Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
Rjl
rjl
Yes, there is sound.
kiss
Send me your e to twocatsam@cox.net
This video is so short, I could post it on Utube if it would help anyone.
Sam,Many thanks for agreeing to send to me..Its very much appreciated.
Good luck :)
Here's the Utube version:
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Sam,
Thanks so much !!!! You 'da man.
Thank you, Brother Gator!
Let us not forget, this system stems from the post by enrique. If I be 'da man he be 'da Boss Man!!
Samster
(Hope everyone likes the videos!)
OK, I think this video covers everything that could possibly happen. I think it's a good one; about 30 minutes long.
Someone should try this system on Golden Palace.
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Questions freely answered!
Sam
Thank you Sam...I was playing it right anyhow but I can see the UTUBE video...........woohoo!!!!
You really should be applauded for your hard work and tenacity....I made a 30% increase of £60 on my last session btw...
TSK
Cheers a bunch Sam, thanks for taking the time to explain it for all of us :)
Great work Sam - Bravo!
Question - not many people here have good things to say about playing RNG roulette, but you're killing it at the moment. What are your thoughts on GoldenCasino ? I can't see any microgaming or playtech logos on their site so maybe they're a bit more honest? Being in the US you may not have had the opportunity to have your wallet emptied by a slot machine disguised as a playtech rng roulette wheel.
I'm wondering if there's going to be different results from live and rng games. I didn't have much luck on playtechs live wheel when I tried this last night but from your results everyone might soon open an account at goldencasino (and crack the golden egg :( ?)
Edit - you answered my question at the end of the second video!
Thanks all..
roules
I have heard the Microgaming RNG "Roulette Gold" is also a fair RNG. Who knows? Maybe; maybe not. Anyway, we'll see how the testing goes.
Sam
QuoteJerek. Hello my friend, I hope you are well. It does not really matter what other people believe or not. The reality of the matter is that we screwed the casino bad enough that they tried to cheat us in the end out of our winnings. remember the number 2 incident.
Well it won't make a difference to the doubters.
But I Believe You Both.
And long may it Continue.....
Lanky.
This system could be a RNG killer! It even works at playtech (probably not for long but I'd like to see) - 40 units in ten minutes! 10c units of course - I know what's likely to happen! Much more testing on this.....
Thanks again
Quote from: Lanky on December 01, 2008, 08:21:56 AM
QuoteJerek. Hello my friend, I hope you are well. It does not really matter what other people believe or not. The reality of the matter is that we screwed the casino bad enough that they tried to cheat us in the end out of our winnings. remember the number 2 incident.
Well it won't make a difference to the doubters.
But I Believe You Both.
And long may it Continue.....
Lanky.
Yes lanky,online casinos do cheat to a certain degree.They know how much you are winning and the amount you are winning starts to trigger their alarm. Yeah they start playing dirty on you
Sam,,
Hi,I was wondering if you have cashed out any of your winnings yet from Goldencasino?I was wondering if the process was/is painless?
Would hate to win a few quid and not be able to get it out!!!....Thanks mate,
TSK
kiss
I did about a year ago. They pay. You must furnish all kinds of I.D.
Sam
Sam,
Ok mate tyvm. :)
At Golden Casino, when you play you earn a bonus--not a sign up--but a loyalty bonus. It really ads up when your betting hundreds per day. Check it out!
You do not have to play it 15x over like some bonuses. It's yours!!
Sam[attachimg=#]
From $200 to $800 in three or four days.
No one interested?
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This is definitely something worth exploring especially I just lost $4k in casino today !!! :-\ :'( :'(
Hi Sam,I just dont seem to be getting the same kinda hit rate that you must be.My BR is up and down like a yoyo but always ending up slightly down :( dont know why this is .I seem to be following the system closley......Oh well....maybe its that particular casino and not the ones Ive used...(Bet365 and Blackpool club((both live and RNG's))
TSK
Love the cashier page at goldencasino:
Deposit funds
"Retrieve" winnings
lol
Ordinarily with most players that's not the case. Except for TCS!
I'd like to retrieve some money please!
I see they take Neteller too 8)
I'm assuming they accept players from any country.
Quote from: the_spiders_kiss on December 02, 2008, 09:58:25 AM
Hi Sam,I just dont seem to be getting the same kinda hit rate that you must be.My BR is up and down like a yoyo but always ending up slightly down :( dont know why this is .I seem to be following the system closley......Oh well....maybe its that particular casino and not the ones Ive used...(Bet365 and Blackpool club((both live and RNG's))
TSK
It's betting half the numbers (well ok 48%) and you'll win half the time playing that way. How Sam's doing it? I don't know but he's doing it!
Stopping while ahead is probably helping. (3x5=15 so 7 x 15 = 105 +7 units in a roundabout kind of a way)
Guys
I think Golden Casino will take anyone in the free world. If they take US citizens, they will take the UK, France, Australia, and others.
Frankly, I expect this thing to go South any minute. I have no faith it in. My faith is in the G.U.T. But it's fun to play.
Golden does not list who their software is by and I can find it on the net.
Sam
My 2 cents here...
I have looked over some of my archived numbers from Wiesbaden...
I did 4 days of tests all the way through...here are my results:
All flat bets too:
1/1/08: Spins: 369, Hi: +30, Lo: -165, End: -120
1/2/08: Spins: 294, Hi: +315, Lo: -15, End: +300
1/3/08: Spins: 343, Hi: +225, Lo: -180, End: +45
1/4/08: Spins: 355, Hi: +195, Lo: -60, End: -60
Overall: Spins: 1,361, Hi: +315, Lo: -180, End: +165
This is flat betting $15 each bet. As you can see, it still stays afloat. Sometimes the system gets on a roll. You just have to have a good stop-loss in effect. So far, it appears that you have a max drawdown of 180, which is less than 40 units. So, a $500 bankroll playing $5 units would be good. Just don't go past $200 in my opinion. And if you get to a high, just make sure that you don't lose more than half back and then quit.
This system can get on some GOOD rolls...and once that roll ends, you should get up and walk away.
TIMING IS EVERYTHING!
I am also going to look over my last session and see if betting AFTER a loss would be ideal. I know that I have seen a 10-loss streak before, but if you play after a loss, and lose, then wait it out. You have plenty of betting opportunities with this system to be sure!!
Well, I lost a ton! No one should play this unless they are a true gambler. (Isn't that always true?)
Now I have the old dilema: Did I loose or did the RNG beat me? Frankly, I think the RNG went after me. I was rocking along there just like in the videos and WHAM!! In one spin it all changed. I think it was when I crossed the $800 threshold.
Anyway, I lost back $400 of my $600 winnings. I did everything. I made it spin 100 numbers without betting on them. I quit for ten hours and came back; same story. I am at a loss for what to do.
I think I'll sleep on it a few days.
Sam
Sorry to hear that TwoCatSam.
Take it easy my friend.
Regards
sniper
Again Sam...I think it is the timing that matters. Sorry to hear that things are going badly on this. It's an easy to-the-point system
Thanks, Guys!!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 03, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Well, I lost a ton! No one should play this unless they are a true gambler. (Isn't that always true?)
Now I have the old dilema: Did I loose or did the RNG beat me? Frankly, I think the RNG went after me. I was rocking along there just like in the videos and WHAM!! In one spin it all changed. I think it was when I crossed the $800 threshold.
Anyway, I lost back $400 of my $600 winnings. I did everything. I made it spin 100 numbers without betting on them. I quit for ten hours and came back; same story. I am at a loss for what to do.
I think I'll sleep on it a few days.
Sam
Hello Sam,
I am so sorry to hear your loss.Talking about RNG gives me the creeps now to play on it now mate.
jerek
Thanks, Bro! I still got to know about RNG some way!!
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 03, 2008, 03:01:34 PM
jerek
Thanks, Bro! I still got to know about RNG some way!!
Sam
Sam,
So can we conclude that RNGs are designed to make you lose?
jerek
That is what I am trying to determine. I simply don't know. How does one ever know? Have I gone daft, or are you winning on an RNG with the VooDoo System?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on December 03, 2008, 03:24:52 PM
jerek
That is what I am trying to determine. I simply don't know. How does one ever know? Have I gone daft, or are you winning on an RNG with the VooDoo System?
Sam
Hello Sam,
I tested my system on both RNG and live.The only thing I can say is that on RNG the drawbacks are quit bad compared to live.Tests only RNG,my system does take quite a lot of beating compared with live but I am able to ride out the bad times mainly becos of my bankroll.However if I play live wheel,I seem to be very safe and drawbacks are not so damaging as RNG.
Anyone won on RNG before hugh amounts before?
I just withdraw USD900 over on 888.com last week,I deposited 200 for a start.I also wish to know the utimate truth in RNGs.I like them becos they are fast
Sam
Sorry to read about your drawback there mate.
RNG's.....I know of no one who has won alot from these things...like your experience they seem to let you win some then.<<<BANG>>>...it sucks you in and then spits you out.
Back to the G.U.T. then is it mate??
TSK.
kiss
Aye, back to G.U.T with me!!
Made over $80 today. Tough session; up and down! Finally quit when I was up!
Sam
:'( that it tanked but it sure was fun to play anyway ;)
Take care [smiley=3/drew.gif]
/Worm
Hi,
I have to make a final note:
There is absolutely no difference between RNG and Live Wheel.
There is nothing that is impossible in the outcome of 37 numbers in any range of spins (not in 10 not in 50 not in 500)
Some things that happen on LiveWheels if they had happen on RNGs people would have claimed to be cheated.
The only difference: RNG is faster so you see more spins in one hour than in 5 hours in a B&M
As I proofed with the G.U.T: it is working on every kind of wheel: RNG, Touchbet, Live
and: If the Casino is cheating you, by searching for a number to make you loose, you will never be able to prove it. Even it would be 37times one single number or 37 different numbers in 37 spins. Everything in between is possible.
I tested this on Wiesbaden (first 50 spins each day) It didn´t work on single day! OK, it worked so far as I came out with a "0" or a small loss. but the draw downs were ecxciting >:D
br
winkel
Hello Sam, Sorry to hear about your loss the other day. If the G.U.T. is a more stable betting method then I would stick with that as well. When you are gambling it is very rare to find something that just slowly builds up profit and more profit. When you find it, then you have something worth holding on to.
regards
enrique
OK, here's the deal......
(Sound like H. Ross Perot when you read that. I'll do an imitation some day!)
Since I believe in winkel and the G.U.T. I will take the last $440.00 left in my Golden Casino account and I will test the G.U.T. just as I am playing it on the Microgaming wheel.
I am not worried about loosing the 400+. If I lose it, I lose it. But I may prove something about the RNG. I will post on the thread I started under "Testing".
Sam
Sam,
Ok mate...good luck ,good luck.
I will be following you closely.
TSK
Nice one Sam,
Looking forward to this, hope we can conclude something about the RNG from your results.
Good luck [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Bad news Sam. I take it the wife is pi$$@d about the new floor then?
Quote from: roules on December 04, 2008, 07:53:43 AM
Bad news Sam. I take it the wife is pi$$@d about the new floor then?
Defintely I believe so I know how woman are :D
Guys
Nope, she's a gambler, too! Used to play craps live so she knows how it goes.
She has her faith in the G.U.T. and that's where her hopes for a floor stem from.
The G.U.T. has become just another day at the office and she knows I need some new things to keep me interested.
Enrique's wheels should do it!!
Sam
damn i need a woman like that ;)