Why do people believe that numerology works when it's applied to roulette. Why the numeris?
Is there one person that can claim that it enables them to win in the long term?
I for one do think it's nonsense, but still I'd like to hear why others so blindly believe in it. What is the driving force behind your belief?
-Herb
NOTE: This is for serious debate only. Please keep posts on message and please, no personal attacks.
Hi, Herb.
I suppose these are legitimate questions. Well I can't answer for others, and beliefs aside, using numerological calculations will constantly produce bet selection methods at least equal to any other selection criteria, I.e. –2.7% or better, rarely worse, as many other mainstream methods are. So I don't see what the big deal is... it's just another way to rationalize your bets.... like random against random, which is apparently quite popular.
Then, when you inject some experience, lots of practice, practice, practice, learning when to spot the good runs and the bad, etc, (a la Spike style ingredients), it can all come together quite nicely.
Cheers, [smiley=beer.gif]
Belief defined as: "...confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing..."
[Dictionary.com]
As regards these particular topics (numerology and the numeris) I practise a "willing suspension of disbelief" whilst I explore numbers, their relationships, their properties using a range of prisms through which to study their behaviour in general, vis a vis roulette numbers in particular.
In other words, I have enough of an open mind to spend some research time to see where it takes me.
I have sufficient confidence that others (the Ancients) discovered and used certain numerical methods to help them understand the world around them -- and beyond.
Perhaps I'll discover enough of their methods to predict certain numbers arriving. Perhaps not.
The last thing I would ever do is to pour scorn and ridicule something without first making it my business to find out whether or not it has any validity... To do so is a form of self-disclosure.
[As an aside, we've had more than enough of that already on this forum in the previous 'numerology thread' that was totally wrecked and destroyed by ignorance, stupidity, prejudice and gross immaturity, overlaid with outrageous personal attacks. If THIS THREAD IS TO SURVIVE THEN IT CAN ONLY DO SO WITHOUT PERSONAL ATTACKS ON INDIVIDUALS. ]
Please note that this thread is asking WHY...it's asking for REASONS... So please would all respondents stick to the topic?
mayby its because it happend to see some patterns form many times more than the others...for example one friend of mine told me that zero and three are connected and they can apear like 0-3,0-3-0 etc...this was told by a friend of him,so 2 different times that i visited casino with my friend it happend to see this :0-3-0!so my friend was cinvised that something is happening,,,,but for me its just because the zero is green and the eye can see this easily...i believe is from selective memory as konfused says in his posts.but thats my opinion-why i would believe- ,i have no idea about numerology and i hope it could work!!cheers
Quote from: Herb on March 18, 2009, 03:33:44 AM
Why do people believe that numerology works when it's applied to roulette. Why the numeris?
Is there one person that can claim that it enables them to win in the long term?
I for one do think it's nonsense, but still I'd like to hear why others so blindly believe in it. What is the driving force behind your belief?
-Herb
NOTE: This is for serious debate only. Please keep posts on message and please, no personal attacks.
Hello Sir Herb,
You know I am a great admirer of your ballistic skills and I look up to you and have a lot of respect for you.
I am not rubbing into anything or pouring oil into the fire.
Remember you had a challenge with Ray?
He was a student of numeris,he came out top didn't he?
There must be a reason for people using such approach,I don't believe it either but I had an encounter with it and it just hit and hit on the numbers. Well,you can call it luck.
Hi Herb and ALL
Just watch the first 10 mins from this nice video and you know why some people 'belive' in this
its not just we believe but we are open minded . and look at all possibilitys we have ....
or just watch from 6:40 min .. to get the message.... by the way its a 2hour long presentation...
nolinks://nolinks.videogold.de/david-icke-beyond-the-cutting-edge/ (nolinks://nolinks.videogold.de/david-icke-beyond-the-cutting-edge/)
cheerz
Why do people believe that numerology works when it's applied to roulette. >>>
Simply, they both involve numbers so they must be connected. They're not. Numerology is hocus pocus nonsense, you see what you want to see.
Study the nature of random, at least you'll be on the right path instead of always lost in the woods.
Herb-
May I join your topic?
I believe that certain numbers inspire other numbers to appear. I have preached this for years and, for want of a better explanation, I have called it "Voodoo Roulette". Why do I believe this? Because I've seen it with my own eyes, recorded it in my book and studied it for thousands of spins. It is on the same order of those who've seen a UFO. Sometimes you have to see it to believe it; sometimes you have to believe in it to see it.
As to the 0 and the 3, they are definitely two of the many numbers who are connected. I once thought it was because they were so close on the wheel, 0 26, 3, and they were being spun as sectors by the dealer. Then I studied CasinoWebCam where the wheel spins far too fast and the ball is released from the pedestal and not from the last number spun. There is no physical way this can be attributed to dealer signature; it is numbers calling to their kin.
"Birds of a feather flock together."
Sam
Also........
The numbers 28 and 29 are kissin' cousins. I can't tell you the times I've wanted the 7 and got 28 and then 29.
Sam
Agreed with Sam...28 and 29 ...and also 32 and 6.....Have a screen shot somewhere from joyland where out of ten numbers seven of em are 6 and 32....unfortunately cant find the shot at this point :(
TSK
People......
Let's have a discussion on the issue and--for once--leave personalities out of it. Herb has asked a valid question: Why?
To those who don't believe......
Perhaps you could couch your comments in the form of a question. "Why do you think that? What is your evidence?"
We all might learn something.
Sam
I've often thought that numbers seems to follow other numbers, as you mention Sam. But I really belive that it's what our minds "wants" us to see. Sure you see the times that the zero is followed by the 3, or vice versa... but what about the 2, or 22? If we are looking for the 22, I guarantee it stands out when it comes.
Just my thoughts. We see what we want to see.
Matt
HI
Here is a pic from wiesbaden permanences i took 4 mins ago , and i looked how often the numbers from these figures show
These Are 9 Numerology Figures , so lets say if the number 1 shows we bet on these four numbers (1,10,19,28)
ONE: 1, 10, 19, 28,
TWO: 2, 11, 20, 29
THREE: 3, 12, 21, 30,
FOUR: 4, 13, 22, 31,
FIVE: 5, 14, 23, 32, .
SlX: 6, 15, 24, 33,
SEVEN: 7, 16, 25, 34,
EIGHT: 8, 17, 26, 35,
NINE: 9, 18, 27, 36,.
now look at the tables and you can see how many hits we would have... and i think this 'phenomenon' is deffenetly worth for further investigations... so we may could take advantage of this...
cheerz
Have any of you heard about the new movie coming out relating to numerology here in the US?
The movie actually looks pretty good.
Quote from: Breeze88 on March 18, 2009, 08:02:42 PM
HI
Here is a pic from wiesbaden permanences I took 4 mins ago , and I looked how often the numbers from these figures show
These Are 9 Numerology Figures , so lets say if the number 1 shows we bet on these four numbers (1,10,19,28)
ONE: 1, 10, 19, 28,
TWO: 2, 11, 20, 29
THREE: 3, 12, 21, 30,
FOUR: 4, 13, 22, 31,
FIVE: 5, 14, 23, 32, .
SlX: 6, 15, 24, 33,
SEVEN: 7, 16, 25, 34,
EIGHT: 8, 17, 26, 35,
NINE: 9, 18, 27, 36,.
now look at the tables and you can see how many hits we would have... and I think this 'phenomenon' is deffenetly worth for further investigations... so we may could take advantage of this...
cheerz
how many times you bet these number ??
QuoteI've often thought that numbers seems to follow other numbers, as you mention Sam. But I really belive that it's what our minds "wants" us to see. Sure you see the times that the zero is followed by the 3, or vice versa... but what about the 2, or 22? If we are looking for the 22, I guarantee it stands out when it comes.
Wow, I think Matty nailed it. I remember in the early days I often thought that some numbers appeared to follow other numbers. Later via software, I learned that it was just selective memory. I think this one reason is likely the reason people are drawn to the numerolody stuff.
-Herb
Breeze88
What about the trigger numbers above 9? Do you start over?
Yes, selective memory is a devil.
Sam
Hi
@Kompressor
This system is still under lets say development so no fixed rules how to bet .. (progression,flat)
its still room for imrpvments in anyway.. so if you have a good idea feel free to share..
@Sam
Actually i just wait for either one of the 1-9 trigger numbers occure...
but as i said its still in testing phase so i dont have fixed rules for how to play it.. maybe you guys find a good solution
cheerz
Hi Breeze
Is the "Numerology Editor" available to download or could you email me a copy??
Id love to test it out
Thanks mate
TSK
Does anybody here really understand the nature of random numbers? They are unrelated in any way. Ever been to Vegas? Look around at the billion dollar casinos, unrelated random numbers built all of it.
But y'all keep looking for the elusive connection, some peoples kids just ain't as bright as other peoples kids, we know you'll find out the truth eventually.[smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_3.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_7.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_9.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_8.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_5.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_4.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_13.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_14.gif] [smiley=3D-gros-fix/36_2_2.gif]
Quote from: Spike on March 19, 2009, 05:21:03 AM
Does anybody here really understand the nature of random numbers? They are unrelated in any way. Ever been to Vegas? Look around at the billion dollar casinos, unrelated random numbers built all of it.
But y'all keep looking for the elusive connection, some peoples kids just ain't as bright as other peoples kids, we know you'll find out the truth eventually.
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fi499.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr351%2Fskakus%2Fbirdhair.jpg&hash=75be5ff1786a645b5f0109c39b3ee9e9a2bed8ed)
Random enough for ya?
it is pure chance. if you looked at a huge number of spins you would see there is no connectsion . how many times is the number followed by a different number then the number you think it should be. here are numbers i used to follow. 12-19. uncanny how many times these two numbers follow one another. but if i went to the casino and only bet when one of these number played would i come out in front. its hard to give up your beliefs. good luck.
The numbers on the roulette wheel are fixed. The things that are random is the dealer's spin and the ball.
The fascination of numbers relating to each other comes when the ball is spun with a consistent rhythm.
Kimo Li
The name of the new movie coming out that relates to numerology is called, "Knowing". It has Nicholas Cage in the movie.
It actually looks pretty good.
;) @ Breeze,
Roots or figures have been tested and tried a million times by various people. It does not hold up.
The best I have seen so far is Clothdog's root system.
That is as good as it gets. Where is CD anyway?
Cheers
Jakk
Here's the big question: Why should numerology (root systems, squares, sun squares, triangles, etc..) work?