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TwoCat tests the bot on casino account #1

Started by TwoCatSam, June 15, 2009, 11:28:13 PM

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TwoCatSam

To anyone interested:

I said I would get back to zero and I did plus .75 Euro.  I could quit now and be ahead .75 Euro for six months work.  By the way, here is the screen shot.  

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While I cannot give away how the bot works, I can explain a couple of things.  I am approaching 300,000 spins for the settings I've been studying.  I know this is still small but it is significant.  I deposited 100 Euro and lost it.  I deposited another 100 and lost that.  I deposited a third 100 and that's the one I went back up to 300 on.  I went as low as 60 Euro.  

Bear in mind that I am only betting pennies, so you must multiply  every figure by 100.  I went as low as 6,000 units and I'm up now to 30,075 units.  The 75 units is profit.

I am going to tell you a couple of things I learned before I found the bot and therefore cannot be giving away secrets.  Victor is spot on when the talks of positive and negative trams.  Using this bot I can see a tram taking place and know when to get on or get off.  Virtual betting is incorporated into the bot, so we can just sit and wait for the opportune time to enter the fray.  Here is an example of a negative tram:

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And here is an example of a positive tram:

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Now, before Spike weighs in with the old saw he used to use on Victor, yes, I know that an upward tram can turn downward on the next spin.  Or vice-versa.  Tiago incorporated into the bot at my suggestion a pause which can be set by the player.  I set mine at -20 Euro and if I hit that--and I usually don't--the bot pauses.  I have learned that waiting is like starting all over, except you just continue instead of starting over.  I let it sit for two hours and then sit down to watch it play.  Most times, the negative tram will go on for a short time and then I hit what I call "stasis".  The graph just goes up and down for a few hundred spins, neither gaining or losing ground.  Then it will either go up or down for real.  It usually goes up.  And I win.

Here is an example of stasis:
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Notice how it goes down, then bounces around, then goes up?  This is the name of the game.  If you study the graph, you will see I went from 173 Euro down.  The bot would pause at 153 or -20.  Notice how the graph goes down a little and then into to stasis and then upward? 

I still feel I would never have lost the first 200 Euro had I not switched by betting mode during play and had much trouble with the casino.  Others on the SR forum had the same trouble.  Enough griped and Bet Voyager fixed it.  I have learned how to avoid errors.  Usually the bot runs about two hours to get my 5 Euro win.  I am currently winning at the rate of 10 Eruo per day betting pennies.  I am happy with that.  Allowing for those rare times when I do not win and lose 50 Euro,  I can still easily clear 200 Euro per month or about $300 American.

So if I'm a shill for Super Roulette, so be it.  Thomas Grant caused the second fellow to win 10,000 Euro to come over and buy the bot.  I'm sure he's just sick over his investment.  Another well-known member of this forum has devised a way to grow his bankroll in even a slower method than I.  

As many of you know, I've reached the point on this forum where I just don't give a damn.  I've been honest.  As long as I'm here I'll be honest.

Samster


Spike

The graph just goes up and down for a few hundred spins, neither gaining or losing ground. >>

Then the system you've got programmed into the stupid bot is crap. How would play such a system in a real casino? Find a system that has decent variance and you won't need the bot as a crutch to pretend you're getting somewhere. A bot is just a Corvette with a lawn mower engine in it if the system is crap.

I'm sure you think I'm harsh but this fantasyland baloney just pisses me off, its going backwards, not forwards.

VLSroulette

Thanks for sharing your results with us Sam.

Your honesty is 100% appreciated.

We know whatever the outcome, we can rely on your bonafide reports. That alone is worth gold  :good:

Kudos and keep those posts coming.

Your friend,
Victor

Diarmaid

Hi Sam,

I have to say you are on the right track here.

You will never find a system that will constantly win BUT, I have a baccarat system in a bot and I use it to first find an entry point first with fun money.

What I mean is I wait for the end of a negative tram (as you call it) and then start it running with real money and grab 50 units (positive tram). I can do this every day with no problems.


In my opinion this is the only way SYSTEMS can be used to get 100% winning sessions.


Regards
D

winkel

Hi TCS,

I have tested my statistics by looking at the graphs to find hints when they will grow or go down or go sideways.

I saw that whit the fifty-fifty-results there are too few hints.
If you put graphs of winning/losing - bets on straight numbers, you can see what is going on.
As I told before: If I have lost a 13-13 bet 2 times I stop playing it until it is back on winning-road.
when I put -13 in the graph and plus 23 it shows very clarly the tendency to go in or to go out.

If you have some time make such a statistic and watch. (If you will ever be back playing the G.U.T)

br
winkel

TwoCatSam

Victor, Dairmaid, and winkel

Thanks for the kind words.  Victor, it is your theory of "going virtual" that sparked the whole idea.  Maybe you never coined it, but I read it first as written by you.

Dairmaid uses a bot for Baccarat.  Great!  Wonder how many others use one?

winkel..good to hear from you.  Will I get back to the G.U.T.?  Absolutely!  Soon Americans will be able to play on-line legally and I will play the G.U.T. in several casinos.  I will also play the 4Selecta and my Chicco/Muprh.  Naturally, I'll run the bot, also.

Hey, Mr. Spike.....

You may be as harsh to me as you wish.  I am no longer a moderator or an administrator.  Fire away.  Someday when I'm not busy I'll spend a few hours trying to muster up the energy to care.

Spike, you could be a worthwhile contributor to this forum!

Sam

thomasgrant

QuoteSpike, you could be a worthwhile contributor to this forum!

Sam

When?

Coxx16

Hey..when the hell did you stop being an admin?? That sucks.....

TwoCatSam

Coxx16

I gave up the admin position a couple of weeks ago and the moderator's position today.  I have philosophical differences with others about how the forum should be managed.  Now, when people write things that should get them banned forever, I don't have to go to bed worried about it.  It is no longer my issue; having fun with this forum and roulette is.

I think I will be a better person for it.  I hope so.  And thanks for your kind words.

Sam

thomasgrant

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 21, 2009, 12:35:54 AM
Coxx16

I gave up the admin position a couple of weeks ago and the moderator's position today.  I have philosophical differences with others about how the forum should be managed.  Now, when people write things that should get them banned forever, I don't have to go to bed worried about it.  It is no longer my issue; having fun with this forum and roulette is.

I think I will be a better person for it.  I hope so.  And thanks for your kind words.

Sam

Ohh well, TwoCat.
Be sad to see your expertise gone.
Even though we clashed at times.
Still have great respect for your views.

Still going to post your results.
And that is a good thing.
So not gone for good then.

TwoCatSam

Up 260 Euro in the past two days using a new strategy:  Sam and The Bot.  I think we did good!  :clapping:  :yahoo:

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Hey Spike

I'm no longer a moderator so quit holding back!  Let 'er rip! 

thomasgrant

Well done TwoCat.
Glad to see you back up again.
Some nice features in this bot.
It just keeps getting better and better.
Some members providing excellent ideas.
And making it even more reliable.
Go for it.
Now that your no longer a mod.
You can also tell it like it is.


Spike

T Grant, is your avatar a pic of you or a ventiloquist's dummy? I can't tell, bad light or something.

thomasgrant

Quote from: Spike on August 22, 2009, 12:59:16 AM
T Grant, is your avatar a pic of you or a ventiloquist's dummy? I can't tell, bad light or something.

It's me in a suit.
Took my mum to see Phantom of the Opera.
The digital camera that was used wasn't the best.

TwoCatSam

A while back I made this statement on the challenge to stevetracker:

"And, yes, a plan is afoot--awaiting Matt's and Victor's approval--wherein I will put up by using the Super Roulette Bot to double a bankroll.  If I can't double the bankroll, I'll pay Victor 100 Euro toward the forum and I will permanently leave the forum.

I am 95% sure I can double any bankroll using that bot!"

Well, that didn't fly for reasons I'll not go into.  So I decided to do it anyway.  The goal is to double the bankroll.  I said I could double any bankroll...........


Here's the beginning of the test:

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I'm sure some of you will notice that I am down somewhat from the 300+ Euro I had when I last posted (see reply #46 for screen shot.  I am down 280 Euro from that point. This is due to my own stupidity and not anything the bot did or anything connected to the bot.

Here is the end of the test:

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For those of you who say, "Wow, a whole 21.5 Euro he made!" let me remind you of this.  I bet pennies, so I went up 21.5 X 100 or 21,500 units.  How many spins did it take to accomplish this?  About 3,000 actual bets.  This particular setting bets every spin; never pauses or passes. So after 3,000 spins I'm up 21,500 units or 7.176 units per spin on average.  Now for those of you who say I'm lying and that I faked the results--I'm good with that.  Those of you who believe I faked the results would believe it no matter what.

For those of you saying I'm selling a bot, let me say this.  I'm telling the truth on something I've tested.  If that's selling, so be it.  I get no money if ten of you buy it tomorrow.  Last week a member of this forum asked me if I would recommend he buy the bot.  I told him I would not recommend anything BUT if he did buy it, I would walk him through the procedure to make his investment back.  He bought the bot and I have not heard from him.

I can almost guarantee a 60% win rate with this bot.  For ever ten bankrolls I have, I will lose four and win twelve.  I'm up two!  If they happen to be thousand-Euro bankrolls, well that's pretty good.

Using this bot, I have doubled my bankroll so many times I can't recall.  And I have 43 Euro to show for it.  Reminds me of a line from a song by Jimmy Buffett:  "I made enough money to buy Miami and I pissed it all away again."  

I have discovered my problem psychologically and I intend to write a post on it alone.  It may help someone else who constantly does this.

TwoCatSam

TwoCatSam

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