TwoCat tests the bot on casino account #1

[Diarmaid]

Well done Sam.

Cheers
D

[TwoCatSam]

Diarmaid

Thanks.  I was up to 1300 Euro once.  Should have doubled it then!!

Sam

[Diarmaid]

Diarmaid

Thanks.  I was up to 1300 Euro once.  Should have doubled it then!!

Sam

did you lose the €1300

[TwoCatSam]

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! 

I still had 21.5 left!

I made 1,000 Euro playing a Martingale progression and lost it all plus all the bot had won save 21.5.  I'm 63, been gambling for years; you'd think I'd know better.

Sam

[The Spiders Kiss]

..been gambling for years; you'd think I'd know better.

Sam

Sam
Im sure we have all said this at one time or another ...your not on your own there mate  ...that ole rush of blood of the head can be a hard one to control!!

The Spiders Kiss

[vix]

Last week a member of this forum asked me if I would recommend he buy the bot.  I told him I would not recommend anything BUT if he did buy it, I would walk him through the procedure to make his investment back.  He bought the bot and I have not heard from him.

Sam,

I assume you are talking about me. Didn't know you had gotten back from vacation. I checked into the forum yesterday and found your message. I'm doing pretty good, but I'd love to hear how you do it. Was talking about the positive and negative tram yesterday with matt so inevitably your name came up   

I'll pm you.
Vix

[TwoCatSam]

vix

Practically everything I know is written the that forum under "The TwoCat Thread".  Time will not permit me to teach by e-mail as I will be answering the same questions over and over again.  On my thread there, I will post my settings I use and how I play it. 

When you start to play and run into something, let me know and we will converse via the forum.  Please save all your spins so I can analyze them.  I do not suggest running the bot over a million spins as we don't do a million spins.  We do from a few hundred to a few thousand. 

Here is how I suggest you name your trots.  Today is September 13, 2009 and I just finished my first trot of 1,000 spins.  I would name the file 9.13.9.1 1000.  It is a good idea to write protect your file after you save it.  Always, always, always, clear your spin cache before starting a new trot.  If you don't, SR will add them together.

Sam


Sam

[vix]

ok thanks for the tips 
c u there then...
vix

[TwoCatSam]

VLS People

Just wanting to touch base and stir some people up who seem to have grown far too complacent!

I said I would report if I lost, remember?  Well, I almost did.  I went down to 8 cents and am fighting my way back.  I am at 2.88 now.   (It's not the money you win; it's the winning itself that counts.)  Yes, I recall that I lost my first two 100 Euro bankrolls.  In time......

On another note, Bet Voyager has changed their bet limits drastically.  They were, for even chances, .01 to 1,000 Euro.  Recently they dropped the top to 100 Euro.  Wonder why?  Could it be that some guys with bots were cutting into their profits by betting pennies and winning with huge progressions.  Naw!  That couldn't be it!

Sam

[Marven]

1 to 100.000 is too large of a betting range for the EC's. They were sooner or later going to realize this and make the adjustment.

[Number Six]

Seriously, Sam, you've already lost hundreds of real cash-money euros, went down to 8 cents and have "fought" your way back to 2.88? Even after all your preaching of positive and negative trams? It's farcical and the whole thing is just an illusion. Huge progressions only mask a flawed bet selection. It doesn't matter if you're betting pennies or grains of sand, in the end they all run out. And who in their right mind would sustain a progression that starts at 1 cent and ranges into hundreds of euros? You're actually talking about tens of thousands of chips. So impractical it's almost criminal. Doens't it tell you that the bot's so-called "logic" is actually a bunch of delusional BS? If I were betting pennies I wouldn't need more than 5 euros. I really hope I'm missing something, like a satirical humour in your posts. As I type this I'm actually LOL'ing.

[TwoCatSam]

Ah, good!

I shook lose two of them!  Are there more?

Marven said, "1 to 100.000 "--umm, too many zeros there, Marv.  I take it you mean 100.00 or one hundred Euro.  (Please be honest and don't edit!)

It was .01 to 1,000 Euro......THEN they dropped it.  Was there something in my perfectly plain English that threw you or did you just not read the post closely enough?

Number 6

Your worries about my financial status in life are much appreciated!  OK, I'm down 300 Euro or about $450.00.  Yes Sir!  That's just about to break me!  Here's one you can really get your teeth into:  For 2009 I must be down a couple of thousand, American.  Geez, Mr. Bean Counter, what do you think of that?  

Any of you ever wonder--in your better moments--why I would say that?  Because I don't get my pleasure in life by coming on a forum and trying to convince people I am something/someone I'm not.  You guys still don't get it:  I'm in this game FOR THE FUN OF IT!  To me, it is great fun to lose down to eight cents and battle your way back.  Did you never see ROCKY?  Do you ever ask the golfer with a $500 putter how much he's "up" for the year?

When you make fun of positive and negative trams, you are making fun of Victor as this is his terminology, not mine.  Tell him they don't work.  

Now, I'm up to 4.75 in one night.  Not double, but substantial.  I'd love to see anyone start with eight pennies and go to 4.75.  Now if the math boys will be honest, they will tell you it's not the amount that counts, it's the increase from A to B.  That is quite astonishing, don't you think?

I'm not saying I am prescient, but I did say bots were the future for online players, Lanky.  I also said the casinos would take counter-measures against us and this one has.  Now Super Roulette can play at ANY Playtech casino--and there are hundreds--so the "action" can be spread around.  Yes, the Playtech "LIVE" wheel.

I am sending Victor $50 American to support the forum this month.  How many of you guys who are making so much money from roulette can say the same?  Victor, I wish you'd confirm this when you get the Paypal so these fellow will know I did what I said.

I thank you guys for your comments and I appreciate your keeping it civil.  I have no bones with disagreements, just harsh, ugly people!

"I'm TwoCatSam
I'm a TwoCat man.
I play the TwoCat Shuffle
Anytime I can.

I shuffle to the left
I shuffle to the right.
It's running on the bot
SO I SHUFFLE ALL NIGHT!"

Sam

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Please confirm this.  These guys seem to think I have a credibility gap.  You and that "other guy" (he he) know better!

[Marven]

Marven said, "1 to 100.000 "--umm, too many zeros there, Marv.  I take it you mean 100.00 or one hundred Euro.  (Please be honest and don't edit!)

Actually Sam I was speaking in terms of 0.01 Euro units, I.e. 0.01 Euro = 1 unit

The range for even chances used to be 0.01 to 1,000 Euro, giving 1 to 100,000 units as a betting range.

[TwoCatSam]

Marven

Sorry, Bro!  It was the period that threw me!  We are used to 100,000 not 100.000..............

By the way,

I was wrong on my 4.75; it was actually 4.25 so I sat down and upped it to 4.77.  That's eight units to 477 units.  Let me do the math!  That is equal to multiplying your bankroll by almost a factor of 60!

Sam

[Number Six]

Well, the "trams" don't seem to be having any affect on your BR expect a detrimental one. According to your reports they don't seem to work.  And if they do, I'd actually dread to know how much you'd be down by now without them. So you're down 300 euros, what is that? You're talking about 30,000 units, right? Just about says it all in my book. Still LOL'ing. And it's great that you can now play at playtech...it means you get to lose even quicker. Good luck.

[Number Six]

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