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What of this method?

Started by esoito, July 10, 2009, 11:36:46 PM

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lucky_strike

Well the only thing I have to say is that some things will happen every week and some thing wont happen in a life time  ;D
Then you might ask would you put our money on tendency, static indicators, patterns, triggers and what else is there?

Cheers

lucky_strike


@Bateman you are cool in my book mate :)

Cheers

Bateman

Lucky Strike, you are cool too  8)

gizmotron

Quote from: Mr Chips on July 12, 2009, 10:09:40 AM

I haven't a clue what educated guessing is about, as people who claim to use it never produce results, in fact they don't produce anything.

With all do respect to those that require respect, what gives you the right to categorize the value of this when you openly admit that you know nothing about it. Sharing does not give you a prerequisite right to control discussion. You have consistently been told how to get knowledge of it. All you have to do is pursue it on your own. In the end you will have your believable evidence and your required results. Others have. That's the result you will one day, perhaps,  be curious enough to investigate.

lucky_strike

QuoteWith all do respect to those that require respect, what gives you the right to categorize the value of this when you openly admit that you know nothing about it. Sharing does not give you a prerequisite right to control discussion. You have consistently been told how to get knowledge of it. All you have to do is pursue it on your own. In the end you will have your believable evidence and your required results. Others have. That's the result you will one day, perhaps,  be curious enough to investigate.

Well I have to agree with that.

Cheers

gizmotron

Quote from: Bateman on July 12, 2009, 10:17:26 AM
Indicators are used to identify what is happening. That is all. They don't tell you what to bet or what not to bet. The bet selection and the attacking tactics to be used are down to the player and cannot be coded by anyone. To code it would would mean there is set criteria and there isn't. That's why it is called adaptation. Nothing is done automatically, as it is with a system. How is that using triggers? Triggers are event-driven and prompt other events. Something happens and you automatically do the opposite etc. If you can't understand that then I think you're just a devil's advocate.

See Spike. It can be discussed openly and it still has a quality of mystique to it. It all comes down to experience in how to use "indicators" and attack scenarios, as Bateman has revealed. So two years go by and we arrive at this point. You all have what you wanted from me in Bateman's revelations. I'm sorry if it is not enough but it is not a system, it's a method. It's always been described as a method.

lucky_strike

QuoteIt all comes down to experience in how to use "indicators" and attack scenarios, as Bateman has revealed.

He has not revealed any thing that we not alredy know.
We have been talking about what is a blind man and what is a static momentum and what is mechanical regarding educated guess work.

Spike and Bateman is not saying the same thing.
I think Bateman is cool because I can grasp what he say and I can't say the same about Spike.

Cheers

gizmotron

Quote from: Lucky Strike on July 12, 2009, 11:24:09 AM
Spike and Bateman is not saying the same thing.
I think Bateman is cool because I can grasp what he say and I can't say the same about Spike.

Spike is not openly talking. That's an obvious difference. Spike is deliberately being cryptic. Bateman is telling you. That's why he is cool I guess.

Just remember this. On this ninth day of the 2009 Tour De France, educated guessing has a cool advocate.

Mr Chips

QuoteIn the end you will have your believable evidence and your required results

What absolute nonsense!!!
 
What has believable to do with evidence. Evidence should be there for us all to see. Either evidence exists or it doesn't.
There is nothing to believe in. What is it some roulette cult :skull:
 
I may get some stick for producing a complex system, but I produce verifiable results and I reply often in detail to any
questions that are put to me. Has anyone of your "believing" followers produced any verifiable results. I will take an
"educated guess", NO.
 
Mr Chips

gizmotron

Chips, you can do whatever you want and believe whatever you want. You don't have to try to understand it. You can go ahead and make fun of it too. Only remember this. I offered to program your system if it were just explained well enough so that I would not have to go back a rewrite the software over and over again. I just want the sim to be done right the first time. Nobody has stepped forward to describe your system yet. So you have a phantom in your own camp that has not been well explained either. I would not wish to work that hard only to have it be explained away as not being properly executed. Up till now educated guessing was not being openly described. What are you going to do when many understand it? You are declaring that there is nothing there. I've known all along that systems fail and that this works. I can't drag you to the truth. If you want to reject it as a cult then you are just believing your own propaganda. As your group grows smaller this group takes greater appreciation.

I have cookies

QuoteThat's why he is cool I guess

No you are wrong he is not telling any one any-thing new or talk about any secret, that is what I see but I can't know what you grasp.
He agree on some things in the begining in this post that made me start to like him and that is why I think he is cool.
Not for telling me some-thing that I did not know.
I am open for new stuff but so far there is none of that in this post.

Cheers

Mr Chips

I have never requested 4Selecta to be programmed, people have taken it upon themselves and suggested it be programmed.
 
Unlike your mythical "educated guessing", the people who have put themselves out to understand 4Selecta, have a system with
substance and a years results as proof and a number of detailed examples.
 
When someone produces verifiable results from so called "educated guessing" I will take notice and check it out otherwise it
belongs, with all the other hotch potch believe this or a hint that garbage.
 
Mr Chips
 

 

Mr Chips

Bateman,
 
4Selecta is far from irrelevant, as it is one of many systems on this forum that produces verifiable results. There is nothing to believe in
or requires a hint here or suggestion there. There are many of us who are getting increasingly fed up with those individuals, who try to
make out they have something special and in fact have nothing.
 
Well 4Selecta does maintain an edge and it may not suit your belief and imagination, but it makes serious money in a casino, can you say
the same for whatever you believe in. Produce some verifiable results and we will all take an interest.
 
Mr Chips

lucky_strike

Well you made a point there Mr Chips we do have many who claim this and that and show us empty words, I agree.
In the begining we talk abot what is a blind man and what is a static momentum and what is mechanical regarding educated guess work.

Now this topic change and become some-thing else.


Cheers

rjeaton1

Quote from: Lucky Strike on July 12, 2009, 03:45:40 PM
Well you made a point there Mr Chips we do have many who claim this and that and show us empty words, I agree.

Cheers


I second that .

rjeaton1

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