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Started by lucky_strike, May 19, 2008, 07:17:13 PM

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mystidark

Hey a Baccarat section sounds like a great idea, for us mortals who do not play BJ or Craps :P

Natural9 your method seems very interesting and is different from following the last decision with the caveat being to play mostly Banker. However, streaks do seem to appear in Baccarat and what if u hit a long player streak, would the fibo progression still hold up? And places like Dublinbet, have a 10Euro minimum bet for Bacc, so playing fibo progression could get very close to table minimums within 6-7 progressions...will try and test it also...

mystidark

Hi LS,

I tried to read over ur method but wasn't sure I understood it. Are u saying that u wait for trigger sequences to come before playing? And what do u mean by large vs small chaotic distributions (as in number of large vs small streaks?)...any method that adapts itself to table conditions sounds very interesting to me, so any further details LS would be much appreciated..thx 8-)

Natural9

You play the column with Fibro progression every time you hit you start the top of next column there are also triggers when you stop and start on banker or player template

mystidark

QuoteI have tested and tried  alot of Izaks methods all fail eventually I studiesdsome of the methods from the twister series all said to work but fail too works under certain conditions also they reckon casinos orchestrate shoes

One I am still interested in is a system you have for even bets in roulete LS i paste it here FROM GAMBLERS GLEN I couldnt get it to fail after hundred shoes

To start you take a scorecard and make 19 columns. Three deep
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19

B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B
B B B B B B B B B P B B B P B B P P B
B P B P B P B B P B P B P P B P B P B

Wait one decision if B you play B if P you play opposite of this template

use  Fibro progression in uits 2,3,4,5,6,7

use suitable stop loss there are more rules for this if some are in terested i can put the rest in

Regards Natural




Hi Natural9,

So if I understand it correctly. Let's say u start on first column and P hits, then for the next two bets (down 1st column) u'll be playing B? And if B, were to hit at the start of the column then u'll play B for the next two bets? So essentially, ur always betting on B? Because u wrote "Wait one decision if B you play B if P you play opposite of this template", what does opposite of template mean?

And u keep saying fibro, is that the fibonacci progression (1-1-2-3-4-5-8-13...)?

Could you please post the rest/complete rules of the system as I would be interested to try it out...

Thanks!

Mystidark

Natural9

Quote
QuoteI have tested and tried  alot of Izaks methods all fail eventually I studiesdsome of the methods from the twister series all said to work but fail too works under certain conditions also they reckon casinos orchestrate shoes

One I am still interested in is a system you have for even bets in roulete LS i paste it here FROM GAMBLERS GLEN I couldnt get it to fail after hundred shoes

To start you take a scorecard and make 19 columns. Three deep
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19

B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B
B B B B B B B B B P B B B P B B P P B
B P B P B P B B P B P B P P B P B P B

Wait one decision if B you play B if P you play opposite of this template

use  Fibro progression in uits 2,3,4,5,6,7

use suitable stop loss there are more rules for this if some are in terested i can put the rest in

Regards Natural




Hi Natural9,

So if I understand it correctly. Let's say u start on first column and P hits, then for the next two bets (down 1st column) u'll be playing B? And if B, were to hit at the start of the column then u'll play B for the next two bets? So essentially, ur always betting on B? Because u wrote "Wait one decision if B you play B if P you play opposite of this template", what does opposite of template mean?

And u keep saying fibro, is that the fibonacci progression (1-1-2-3-4-5-8-13...)?

Could you please post the rest/complete rules of the system as I would be interested to try it out...

Thanks!

Mystidark

You play the B template if B hits first or the opposite if P hit you keep tab of how one gets ahead of the other if by 3 in first 10 bets automatically switch to the opposite template its is  dominence method  once ten decisions are played you keep playing the dominent you can play fibronacci anyway you want but going up units on loss is best way i think


After hand 11 I do not switch unless the Player is ahead by 3. Then at that time start using Player where Bank is.
The mm system I use is starting at 1 unit and when lose go up one level to 2. If win go down 1 unit. If at 1 stay at 1 till you lose. I use thr progression ,2,3,4,5,6,7 And stop at level 7 and start over at 1. Thus if you lost every bet you would be down 27 units. Also if I win two in a row I go down 2 units. and if I W-L-W after the second win here I would go down two units.


Example


B B B P P P P B P P B Remember the first hand was Bank
1- bet column 1 row 1 Bank win one unit
2- bet column 2 row 1 Bank win one unit
3- bet column 3 row 1 Bank win one unit
4- bet column 4 row 1 Bank lose one unit
5- bet column 4 row 2 Bank lose two units
6- bet column 4 row 3 Player win three units
7- bet column 5 row 1 Bank lose two units
8- bet column 5 row 2 Bank win three units
9- bet column 6 row 1 Bank lose one unit
10 bet column 6 row 2 Bank lose two units
11 # Here Player is ahead of Bank 6-4 So I switch at this point There is less than 12 hands and Player is 2 more than Bank.
so column 6 row 3 would ahve been Player but I switch so I bet Bank replacing Player with Bank
11 column 6 row 3 Bank wins three units.

After 12+ hands I would wait till the other side is 3 ahead. And the next bet wherever we are in columns or row would switch.



mystidark

So what you are saying Natural is that, in your example if within 10 or 12 hands, P is greater then B by 2 or more; then that entire template (scorecard) changes, all P become B and all B become P...hope thats rite

So how do u start playing the game then, do u wait until u see B leading by 2 or more within 12 hands and then start playing with Column 1 Row 1 (B) or do just start the game at any point with the B bet and then adjust accordingly?

And does the scorecard stay permanent or does it vary with each game?

Hope my questions makes sense...

Edgardo

Colegas, tengo muchísimos Sistemas de Baccarat, si me dicen donde los puedo almacenar para que luego Ustedes los bajen, cuenten con ellos.

De todas maneras, les comento el que me parece mejor: Jugar a Banco, si sale Banco, no jugar el siguiente pase, si sale Punto, jugar el siguiente pase a Punto.

P  -1
P  +1
P  -1
T
B  -1
P   -1
B  -1
T
B  +1
T
B
B  +1
P
B  +1
B
P   -1
P   +1
T
P   -1
B   -1
P   -1
B   -1
B   1
P
P   -1
B   -1
B   1
P
B   1
T
B
B   1

Para usar una progresión muy suave, empezar el zapato, suponiendo que tenemos que recuperar 3 fichas.

Un saludo cordial, Edgardo.

Natural9

QuoteSo what you are saying Natural is that, in your example if within 10 or 12 hands, P is greater then B by 2 or more; then that entire template (scorecard) changes, all P become B and all B become P...hope thats rite

So how do u start playing the game then, do u wait until u see B leading by 2 or more within 12 hands and then start playing with Column 1 Row 1 (B) or do just start the game at any point with the B bet and then adjust accordingly?

And does the scorecard stay permanent or does it vary with each game?

Hope my questions makes sense...
No your queations are fine

first decisions is say bank you then play the Bank template for whole shoes unless there is trigger to player  in first 11 or so decsions swich it one get more than two ahead

Other switch we play is if say we playing on Banker and player wins say 3 in a row we than play
Player template I think this triggering can be improved possibly but 3 in row works good as well or you could wait till one gets ahead by more than 2 for your switch trigger there was a shoe someone played i know of won 80 units becase of banker winning like 60 to 20 played on the streak

The MM is important too on this method

I hope this helps

Regards Natural

Natural9

 P -1   no bet play P template
P  +1         +2  new column
P  -1          +2  new column col 2 row 1
T
B  -1         -2  new column  col 3 row 1
P   -1        +3                     col 3 row 2
B  -1         -2 new column   col 3 row 1  and so on
T
B  +1        -3
T
B              +4
B  +1        -2
P              +3
B  +1        -2
B              -3    switch to bank
P   -1        +4
P   +1       -2
T
P   -1        -3
B   -1        +4
P   -1       -2
B   -1        +3
B   1         +2
P              -2
P   -1        -3
B   -1        +4
B   1         +2
P               +2
B   1          +2
T
B               +2
B   1          +2

 15 units reasons start with 2 units is that you can play on $5 tables  

hope I not made any mistakes has been awhile since i play it

I hope this helps


Regards Natural

mystidark

Hi Natural, thanks for the explanations...seems to make a lot more sense now...will definitely try it out at the live dealer casinos and let u know how it goes...do u currently play baccarat and if so, do u use this method?

Lucky Strike, have u tried out the U2HiSA yet?


Mystidark

admin

Baccarat section... I have no problem in opening it for you guys  :thumbsup:

What name would you want for it?

Natural9

 tha nks for that Victor

I dunno what call it  maybe luckys and naturals or luckys bac forum  bac forum or just plain ole bac forum :D ;D :-/

Natural9

QuoteHi Natural, thanks for the explanations...seems to make a lot more sense now...will definitely try it out at the live dealer casinos and let u know how it goes...do u currently play baccarat and if so, do u use this method?

Lucky Strike, have u tried out the U2HiSA yet?


Mystidark

I tried twister anti twister and advanced  twister and all failed there are triggers to use em and at bac forum they go on bout casino orchestration U2hi is another version from that forum you have change as shoes changes  and they reckon casinos orchestrate shoes from choppy to streak tyo somewhere in between depending on the players so you are a moving target not static  
But there is so much subjectivity to it one could be playing along another who has same methods one could lose other win

But from what i heard the U2hi might be ok


NATURAL

mystidark

QuoteBaccarat section... I have no problem in opening it for you guys  :thumbsup:

What name would you want for it?

Maybe..."Baccarat Whales"  8-)

Natural9

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QuoteBaccarat section... I have no problem in opening it for you guys  :thumbsup:

What name would you want for it?

Maybe..."Baccarat Whales"  8-)



;D :D ;) :) :o

Natural9

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