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I  love a challenge!

Started by straight-talker, May 27, 2008, 08:44:40 PM

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bloomone2002

QuoteUnequal distribution.

Let us imagine that we go to the casino and we watch the dealer spin the ball 100 times.
The 1st dozen appears 25 times, the 2nd dozen appears 25 times and the 3rd dozen appears 50 times. That is an unequal distribution because the average for each one should be 33.33% or thereabouts.
Now it never really works out to the excact % and there is unequal distribution running riot throughout the game of roulette. Isolating it and trying to take advantage of it is one of the key elements to a winning gameplan in my humble opinion.
I have found a way to isolate the unequal distribution which creates an even money bet for me to play. The trick then is knowing when to bet it and when to stay off it or even do the complete opposite and bet against it  :D Many possibilities to grind a few units.

Your system explaination to this point is clear to me. I would need to know the detail of the next step which is your last statement in the quote of which I've bolded.
How you isolate th unequal distribution to create the even money bets to bet
The application of knowing when to bet
The application of knowing when to stay off
The application of knowing when to do the complete and bet against it
The many possiblities fo grind a few units.
This explainations would be very useful. Talker.
Also, I sent you a PM a couple days ago.

Thanks
Bloom

straight-talker

You are right Bloom to ask why I need to prove this. Many people on gambling forums say they have a good roulette game and that they never or hardly lose, then when someone asks them to prove it, they become silent.  I like this forum and hope to post a lot. I  have a winning game and I aim to show the forum that you can win consistently and make good profits from roulette. I will explain all the details when I am ready. I understand people are not going to be hanging out every day to see what happens with my bets.  I hope people check from time to time to see how I am doing. It will serve the purpose to show that people who use discipline and control in their betting are not wasting their time and can actually win from a live casino. I consider that a good enough reason to carry on with what I propose.

bloomone2002

Well thanks, for the Straight answer. You have good reasons to like this forum because it is not like many others out there. There are a lot of positive, creative, intelligent and sharing individuals of likeminded goals on here. Also, there are plenty of players on here that have proven there systems or methods to be successful so why not join the club.  I appreciate your reply, respect it and applaud your effort. All the best in your challenge. I will peek from time to time when I can, especially when the meat of the matter is shared. I am patient and a determine player. Heck, I've never played live yet, because, I want to make sure I am confident that I have an opportunity to win consistently and profit by my effort. I am a perfectionist of sorts as I believe most of us on here are. My approach to the game has vastly improved by extensive research, evaluation, testing and support from others of which I am thankful. Though, I will speak only for myself. This is certainly not for everyone. I will cherish a consistently profitable system that exercises the skill of discipline and control, because it builds character and success. I have already given you the benefit of success without doubt that you will do well.
Bloom

Swarm

Sorry im late........ I dont think i can follow this one , Straight ,on live i mean , is because the difference on the clocks , im on california  :o

It look like some one else have to take the challenge!

Players Raise your hands!

Anyway i will keep and eye on this post im hoping to learn always!


straight-talker

I played my first session tonight. I held off for a few days because I wanted to spend time reading Victor and lanky's ideas regarding the LW method since my approach is a bit of the same. I am glad I did, I think I actually improved my game to a level which is amazing. I can't thank you 2 guys enough. Absolutely awesome.
After tonight my starting investment of £100 is now sitting at £130.00.
Technically however I have broken the rules I proposed from the start. I will explain how below.
I play a positive progression, depending on the situation I may go for anything from a run of 3 to a run of 5. I tend to start of looking for 3 and then if things are going really well and I am in profit, I can get a bit more extravagant.
So if my first bet is a £3.00 and it wins, I get back £6.00.
My second bet is now £6.00 and it wins so I get back £12.00.
Now my third bet would be £12.00 to win £24.00. But now I will put another £3.00 out on the three groups of 6 numbers that I am not playing. Doing it this way means if one them group of 6 numbers come in I get my £3.00 bet back plus the original £3.00 from my progression bet. There will be times when zero comes in but that is going to happen now and then.
I like this added feature of my game and there are a few other new tricks I incorporate now thanks to some inspiration from reading some of the posts on here.
The game run really smooth for me and I look forward to my next session.

straight-talker.


straight-talker

I will give a more detailed account here regarding the cover bet. I don't start playing the cover bet before the third bet in my positive progression.

1. £3.00 returns £6.00
2. £6.00 returns £12.00
3. £12.00 returns £24.00 but here I also put out another £3.00 (£1.00 each on the other three groups of 6 numbers) If one of them hits, I get back £6.00 which is my stake back plus the original stake from my positive progression bet which resets me at 0.
4. £24.00 returns £48.00 Now I place a cover bet of £6.00.
5. £48.00 returns £96.00 Now I place a cover bet of £12.00. So if the £12.00 cover bet wins, I get back the £12.00 cover bet, plus another £12.00 which covers the earlier £6.00 cover bet, £3.00 cover bet and the original £3.00 bet for the positive progression. This resets me back to 0. If a zero did appear then I have to take it on the chin but it is not a big loss and I can recoup later.

straight-talker.

Kon-Fu-Sed

Hello straight-talker, and All.

This is my first post here - after lurking for a long time.
I feel I have to jump in to help, as you are wasting your money!

Why do you bet like this - the cover-bets I mean? I am confused...  ;)

The results will be exactly the same if you bet 3x3 instead of 3x4 + 3x1 on the third bet if anything but Zero hits.
And if Zero hits you will still be at a 0-loss instead of -6.

This is your bets and wins if a "main" group wins the third bet:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-15 +24 = +9
Result: +18

My proposition:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-9 +18 = +9
Result: +18 (Same as yours)

This is your bets and wins if a "secondary" group wins the third bet:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-15 +6 = -9
Result: 0

My proposition:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-9 +0 = -9
Result: 0 (Same as yours)

And this is your bets and wins if ZERO hits the third bet:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-15 +0 = -15
Result: -6

My proposition:
-3 +6 = +3
-6 +12 = +6
-9 +0 = -9 <===
Result: 0 <===
This saves you 6 units in this case and makes no difference in the other cases.

The rest of your bets should also be modified (subtract the cover-bets from the main bets)...
This is what will happen if the Zero hits at your very last bet, betting your way:
(3x1) -3 +6 = +3
(3x2) -6 +12 = +6
(3x4 + 3x1) -15 +24 = +9
(3x8 + 3x2) -30 +48 = +18
(3x16 + 3x4) -60 +0 = -60  :(
Result: -24  :'(

My proposition:
(3x1) -3 +6 = +3
(3x2) -6 +12 = +6
(3x3) -9 +18 = +9 (same)
(3x6) -18 +36 = +18 (same)
(3x12) -36 +0 = -36 <<===  >:(
Result: 0 <<==  8-)


A great article covering this topic:
nolinks://xerxx.se/oops/main/reading/rr000010.html


Have a nice week-end, all
KFS

straight-talker

Hello Kon-Fu-Sed, Thank you for your post. I have spent the morning reading it and re-reading it  :D all them figures hurt my head this early. You are right and that seems like a much better way to play and it will save me in the long run. My idea seemed like a good one at the time  ::)
When the zero does show, playing your way will save me some money and help towards keeping my bank safe.
I really appreciate you taking out the time to write that up and give a good explanation of how it works.  :thumbsup:
Welcome to the forum Kon-Fu-Sed, this place has a lot of good posts from seasoned roulette players.
I hope we can all keep learning from each other.

straight-talker.

Kon-Fu-Sed

Great to be able to help.

I learned it from that article many years ago. It was written in 2000 or maybe even earlier.
Credit to Oops!
:thumbsup:

KFS

admin

Hello Kon-Fu-Sed, [smiley=welcome/welcome.gif] to the family.

I would totally love to mirror oops site, but then I found this:

QuoteThe copyright notice (at bottom of all pages) says ..."and may not be copied and/or distributed by any"... I HEREBY GRANT YOU PERMISSION TO COPY a page, as long as you do not give it away (i.e. it's OK to copy [highlight]for your own personal use[/highlight]). All on this site is for free; you may download/print the zipped files but please: spread the URL nolinks://xerxx.se/oops/, not the tables!
nolinks://xerxx.se/oops/main/legal.html

Wanted to make a mirror to help the awareness of his works and have a backup copy shall the original site ever go down, but better to honor his wishes.

Kon-Fu-Sed

Hi Victor, and All,

I know of one guy who wants to buy (yes pay for) the site and sign a contract that none of Oops' texts would be altered in any way but they refused when he asked them.
I also know that they had an illegal mirror site closed although it simply was a mirror on their own old .nu-URL...
And some cut-and-paste jobs of whole articles have been traced down - they were replaced by links.
I think they are a bit protective...

The company hosting the site seems to be alive so I don't think we have to worry...

Anyway... Let's do what he asked: Spread the link
nolinks://xerxx.se/oops  :thumbsup:


Regards,
KFS

Kon-Fu-Sed

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