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If there is an over-pay or a wrong pay-out think twice before you except it.

Started by lucky_strike, September 10, 2009, 08:29:04 AM

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lucky_strike



Don't take some one else winning bet if the dealer makes the mistake and give it to you.
The rules and conditions is different regarding country and casinos.
This happen my friend in Sweden at our local international casino.

1 year ago he took a winning bet "100 Euro" that was not hes winning bet.
The dealer made the mistake and my friend took the pay with an smile on hes face.

Then one day for not so long ago when he visit our casino a guard told him that the Pit Boss would like to talk to him.
The Pit Boss told him this...

We have video that show us that you took an winning bet "100 Euro" that was not your winning bet.
You can pay us back the "100 Euro" and get an 30 days ban or you can skip to pay us back the money and you will get a ban for a life time.

My friend did not pay them back the money and got an life time ban.
Guess what...

If there is an over-pay or a wrong pay-out think twice before you except it.
I would be honest and give any over-payment or wrong pay-out back.

Cheers LS

lucky_strike



Don't take some one else winning bet if the dealer makes the mistake and give it to you.
The rules and conditions is different regarding country and casino.
This happen my friend in Sweden at our local international casino.

1 year ago he took a winning bet "100 Euro" that was not hes winning bet.
The dealer made the mistake and my friend took the pay with an smile on hes face.

Then one day for not so long ago when he visit our casino a guard told him that the Pit Boss would like to talk to him.
The Pit Boss told him this...

We have video that show us that you took an winning bet "100 Euro" that was not your winning bet.
You can pay us back the "100 Eruo" and get an 30 days ban or you can skip to pay us back the money and you will get a ban for a life time.

My friend did not pay them back the money and got an life time ban.
Guess what...

If there is an over-pay or a wrong pay-out think twice before you except it.
I would be honest and give any over-payment or wrong pay-out back.

Cheers LS

VLSroulette

Great advice dear Lucky,

Doing the right thing is always the way to go.

Quote from: Lucky Strike on September 10, 2009, 08:31:55 AM
My friend did not pay them back the money and got an life time ban.

:o

Why not pay when you know they are right? Mammi mia!

Mr J

True but what about a bit different situation? You get paid but did not win (not someone elses winnings) *OR* the dealer makes a mistake and keeps a chip on the table she/he was suppose to clear off. Now what?  Ken

lucky_strike


Yes then what would some on do in this situation if we keep in mind what happen to my friend.

Cheers LS

Mr J

Hmmm, a tough one. I think here in the states, no ban. THEY made the mistake. I guess if I got a warning to re-pay, I think I would.  Ken

VLSroulette

Quote from: Mr J on September 10, 2009, 12:48:15 PM
I guess if I got a warning to re-pay, I think I would.  Ken

Same here.

Why get the lifetime ban? If you can make something out of the game, in time you will be making more than what's demanded... Of course, if you can't make even the $100, then that would be a deal  ;D

mistarlupo

"The only way to win money at roulette is to steal it when the croupier isn't looking"

Maybe Lucky's mate just followed Einstein's advise. If the guy is by chance one of the 99% of roulette players who are overall losers, this lifetime ban is not so bad offer. However, it'd be bad offer if the lad goes to that casino to play for fun, not with the idea to make money.

;)

Mr J

......and if the dealer accidentally leaves a chip or two of yours on the table, then what? lol  Ken

GARNabby

Quote from: Lucky Strike on September 10, 2009, 08:31:55 AM

Don't take some one else winning bet if the dealer makes the mistake and give it to you.
The rules and conditions is different regarding country and casino.
This happen my friend in Sweden at our local international casino.

1 year ago he took a winning bet "100 Euro" that was not hes winning bet.
The dealer made the mistake and my friend took the pay with an smile on hes face.

Then one day for not so long ago when he visit our casino a guard told him that the Pit Boss would like to talk to him.
The Pit Boss told him this...

We have video that show us that you took an winning bet "100 Euro" that was not your winning bet.
You can pay us back the "100 Eruo" and get an 30 days ban or you can skip to pay us back the money and you will get a ban for a life time.

My friend did not pay them back the money and got an life time ban.
Guess what...

If there is an over-pay or a wrong pay-out think twice before you except it.
I would be honest and give any over-payment or wrong pay-out back.

Cheers LS



Lucky,

What the hell is wrong with you guys?

Tell your friend to gather some more information, and look for a good out-of-town lawyer to sue their asses off.

Marven

If it's your chips, your bet that won, and the dealer overpays you, take it. They can't accuse you of anything if they see it. It's the dealer's mistake, not yours.

Dealers are human beings and make mistakes. Simply don't forget to make sure you count your winnings to make sure you're not under-payed: if the dealer overpays you, take it, if he underpays you, politely ask him to double-check the payment before you mix it with your chips.

HOWEVER, if a dealer mistakenly pays you with someone else's chips/won bet, do NOT take that.

GARNabby

Quote from: Marven on September 13, 2009, 06:05:51 AMHOWEVER, if a dealer mistakenly pays you with someone else's chips/won bet, do NOT take that.



Marven,

Chips now come with persons' names on them?  And dealers are no longer required to remedy such disputes in a timely fashion (, as are the players)?  Now they may ban you for any (irrelevant) reason anytime w/o notice?

No wonder the new pop-up ads here... when the old motto from the old site used to be something like to beat (only) the casinos.


Marven

Quote from: GARNabby on September 13, 2009, 11:34:47 AM
Now they may ban you for any (irrelevant) reason anytime w/o notice?

It's commonsense. They pay you with someone else's won bet, don't take it. It's too obviously not yours. This is to avoid disputes in the first place, with both the house and the players.

But when it comes to your own bets, do accept over-payments and reject under-payments. You'd be surprised how often inexperienced/bored/tired dealers overpay/underpay (especially when playing straight up numbers). The house is exploiting your weaknesses, why not exploit theirs?

lucky_strike


If they has a hard line of policy and look at video and come back one year later to get there 100 Euro back, well guess what, no way i would risk my ass.
I guess they don't do this every where but this has happen and can happen again.

I might add that he did not win so much and took it as an favour.
He does not play any more he even quit with sport betting.

Cheers LS

GARNabby

Quote from: Lucky Strike on September 13, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
If they has a hard line of policy and look at video and come back one year later to get there 100 Euro back, well guess what, no way I would risk my ass.
I guess they don't do this every where but this has happen and can happen again.



Lucky,

My experience and knowlegde tells me they don't do that anywhere, one year later.  Non-sense?



Marven,

Other players are not in any way responsible for rectifying my mistakes even while the window for appeal is open (while, eg, the cards are still racked).  Asfaras a propperly called-for and resolved "dispute", how could that not be the end of it?

In a casino, every one is a player.  Opening the door to anything else is what leads to the really-big disputes, egs, sticking one's nose into others' pots, or one bj-player "fingering" another as a "counter" to the pit-crew.  (Yes, I've had the latter happen to myself a few times.  Casino-losers hate true winners, even though we're "supposed" to all be "players" there.  One time I said, "Nice bj", walking past some guy with a thousand down... and almost got punched in the face for my remark.)

In fact I once let an other's much bigger banker-bet(?) "slip past" my own in the hopes of some "reciprocation", but which never came.

It's far better to have "the other guy" learn once (when he figures it out later) then to perpetuate a "pansy".  Eg, the "joker" beside you palming off a few of your black chips only to later reveal how easy it was, doesn't compare to when things really don't add up at the end of the day.  Heck, I (accidently once) dropped a couple of purple chips on the floor only to have one of the "prostitutes" behind us try to get a foot over it.  Do you think I'd have got it back? Still think it's "common sense"?  Or just every one playing by the same rules?  

GARNabby

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