how do I recognize RNG an d REal wheel numbers

[Bo0Merang]

the question why I need that ....ok  guys  I do  some research I did download numbers  from  spielbank  but problem is  I cant see long set together so I was been  given  couple thousnts numbes and I was  downloaded couple  milions  numbers  ......hah after some time I was regognize that something is wrong then I was jump on  RNG.org make generate 1000 numbers  just  see patern and here we go F...n fishy numbers  how do I recognize  on begining ???anyone??thnx

[Mr J]

I have brought this up before and no, I cant answer you because I dont know.  If I listed 200 actuals and 200 RNG numbers, can someone tell me which is which and why?  Ken

[Werdna]

It's because RNG is based on numbers whereas, the real wheel is based on life...which means?

[TwoCatSam]

Mr J

No.

Sam

[Jakkalsdraai]

Mr. J and TCS.

I agree 100% with you guys that one can not determine which is which. So how can one say that online RNG is crooked then.

I see it this way. Remember only my point of view.

1) Both are random right?
2) Both can throw any sequence of numbers, colours, groups or whatever and both do.
3) The thing is what bother me is this. When you are not involved actually playing the specific strings of numbers in other words interacting with the RNG, these numbers will look like any other string of numbers (because random can dish up any sequence).
4) The thing is that if RNG was crooked, it could change and counter to whatever you are doing and easily wipe you out. After this has happened one could take the numbers and look at it and there would be no suspision at all.

Now I even if you had a unlimited BR and you started playing 30 numbers out of 37 and you use some kind of Atilla progression or any other clever progression. Obviously the RNG could not go and spin exactly onthe uncovered 7 numbers the whole time. What you would find is though that these numbers will very quickly come into play. Let's say you need at least 5 out of 6 hits to make profit. Believe me you will get 3-4 out of 6, making you slip away. Ok remove your bet and wait a bit. Guess what the other numbers you covered will come back into play. Now cover them again and the other 7 numbers will start hitting.

Whether people believe this or not, is really up to that person him or herself. Progressions is also a sure way for RNG to wack you hard. I'm convinced RNG can pick up progressions.

Anyway the whole point I was trying to make, was the fact that RNG can easily be crooked and you would never be able to say so from looking at the numbers afterwards.

One more simple example. I tell you you have to guess what number I'm thinking of between 1 and 5. I give you ten guesses. Everytime the number in my head changes for the next guess.But I never even had a number in my head at all. Yet I let you win 2 out of 10. I show you the results afterwards, fabricated. Now some one else comes in and says, well I would of guessed 8 out of 10 with the system I use lookingf at those results.......See what I'm getting at?

Cheers
Jakk

[Spike]

So how can one say that online RNG is crooked then.>>

Its NOT crooked, its just differnent than a real wheel. As it should be.

Pseudo Random = Fake Random

Real Random = Real Random (duh)

[Davey-Jones]

I have brought this up before and no, I cant answer you because I dont know.  If I listed 200 actuals and 200 RNG numbers, can someone tell me which is which and why?  Ken

Would you mind if I took a gander at this? For the hell of it anyway?

Single zero or double zero actuals won't make a difference.

[Mr J]

Ok, single zero wheel. How about 70 numbers? Is that alright? I'll post them in 10 minutes.  Ken

[Mr J]

27  <<<< Group A..... I'll post the next set. One are REAL spins, one are RNG.
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[Mr J]

16  <<<< Group B. Any insight as to why one group is RNG and one group is not?
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[Mr J]

Anyone can take a stab at it.  Ken

[TwoCatSam]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but.......

Let's play a game!!

Let's figure out what Davey-Jones is.  Darn sure looks like a psychiatrist. 

Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Sam

[Mr J]

lol, He asked for the challenge, then disappears.  Ken

[Davey-Jones]

Well... I have boring news. I went through the numbers and checked them through a couple of times. Found nothing of real significance. They both ended on the same playing field after both tests were done. My gut says Group A is real... and Group B is RNG. But I really can't be sure. Thanks for humouring me anyway.

[Davey-Jones]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but.......

Let's play a game!!

Let's figure out what Davey-Jones is.  Darn sure looks like a psychiatrist. 

Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Sam

Are you serious? You don't know who that is? I'm sure Spike knows...

[Davey-Jones]

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