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#### Natural9

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October 18, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
sheesh here we go again

#### gizmotron

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October 18, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
I never say that I'm sorry Spider is an ass we all know it here.   I'm  no spike that will kiss ass

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James Albert Wendel

I've got news for you James. I'm not Spike. I doubt that Spike will ever apologize to you. He didn't kiss your butt anywhere did he? My apologizing to you was as much the truth as I have been able to gather from your future math concepts and your explanations of your betting systems. BTW, you think that there are more chops than streaks and that skipping a bet or two and betting on OLD or FLD is a winning system. It's mechanical and will always follow the long term laws of probability. It will not beat the math as you suggest. You just have a very strong belief that you have not fully researched yet. You will learn that it will correct itself and break down your bankroll eventually. The problem is that you have not researched it enough. Try doing that while you are in the penalty box, please.

#### Natural9

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October 18, 2009, 07:12:52 PM
I've got news for you James. I'm not Spike. I doubt that Spike will ever apologize to you. He didn't kiss your butt anywhere did he? My apologizing to you was as much the truth as I have been able to gather from your future math concepts and your explanations of your betting systems. BTW, you think that there are more chops than streaks and that skipping a bet or two and betting on OLD or FLD is a winning system. It's mechanical and will always follow the long term laws of probability. It will not beat the math as you suggest. You just have a very strong belief that you have not fully researched yet. You will learn that it will correct itself and break down your bankroll eventually. The problem is that you have not researched it enough. Try doing that while you are in the penalty box, please.
Isnt that the idea of the forum  if someone claims something work it not for us to believe but do as much testing and research as possible on it and leave personalities aside

What ever you think of the person and if you say nothing works mathematically why are you here we all looking and show us results of failure not say something doesnt work because you say it does

Lots say you cant beat this game ask Lanky how he wins  i seen him but some will say playing his way cant overcome house edge as well but hey he been doing it for years and he has his shirt still to prove my point

#### gizmotron

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October 20, 2009, 02:38:08 AM
N9, I had a good answer but I forgot what it was. I think it had something to do with having the guts to look at the results and not to take it personally. James has never been able to take constructive criticism or evidence that his opinion was in error. But that is a known thing here. I just wanted to point out why it fails. People really want to discuss this. Only it has always been hijacked by it's own creator whenever that happens. While James is resting this one out we could compare notes without his interruptions. It's a great opportunity.

#### Nathan Detroit

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October 20, 2009, 06:51:47 AM
A devilish proclamation

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HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

#### Twocando

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October 20, 2009, 08:05:47 AM
James

Yes I do have a lot to learn. But I can tell you this. There is no magic to your " Holy Grail"

Let me prove it.

You hop and skip between the numbers. Not playing every number.
Claiming that every thing must go back to what it was. back and forth.
Need to stop on -8 or +4 or were one like to stop.
Must look at what was before you start to play.
Look at the dimensions and see if they are changing.

Now my friend- let make it simple. What is the dimensions, Black/Red and Odd/ Even and High/LOW and mine the Left and right of the wheel. Plus any other 18 numbers against the other 18 numbers.

To write R for repeat of what the last is to the one before that and C for change you will see that it reads quicker. See the attached file. Spins from live table, To wait for 3 repeats on a " dimension" play that this will change.
So 3 R's RRR play that its going to change the last. 3 C's CCC play that is going to repeat the last.

On the file you will see that it happens that all of the groups change. Where all of them are the same  R is when it repeat a number or a number in that group. It will never go to C's on all of the groups it can only repeat. Cause to change from 10 - Black Even Low and Right it must be Red Odd High Left. That number is not on the Left side.

To stop at -8 or +4  Is the same like playing with 8 units/chips on any EC's Play 4 at a time if you win you'v got 4 prof / up stop play later or on another table. Lost 4 try again and stop if lose. that will be -8.
Will not lose more than 7 out of 10 times.

If you play the EC's that its going to change or repeat make a group of the EC'c Black Low and Even. Win 2 out of these 3 you 1 unit up.

Numbers can only change 3 EC's at ones. and there are only 4 and 5 numbers to this change to each number. If you like  play that the full dimension to the last is going to change. Black - Even - High for number 9 is the numbers 20.22.24.26.28 and they are on the same side of the wheel. next to 9?

If you write the numbers down like on the file you will see that there is more changes then repeats to the total of the groups.  Random cause that this happens - not staying on one group and even if it stays the rest changes.

I don't trust your system - it's not what you think it is. Well sorry you told us that you have 20 other methods better than this one. Which one is the Holy Grail then.

TCD