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Signum system EC B&R

Started by Mr Chips, October 24, 2009, 03:56:24 AM

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Mr Chips

Unfortunately an error in the detailed explanation of the B Formation session has meant
it has continued through the session and I will have to amend it.

It is a pain, but the upside is I will take the opportunity to try and make the explanations
more 'user friendly', I did say try lol and I will also take on board the comments and suggestions
made by members in this thread. I will include a page or two titled 'intro to symbols P & M.

I apologise to those of you who have copied the pages, but hopefully the amended version will be
much easier to understand.

Richard

Mr Chips

Quote from: Natural9 on November 02, 2009, 03:52:25 AM
Richard I have a PM for you but I would like to ask you

Is this systrem subjective on some bets  if the two of us played the same spins at the same time would we be placing same decisions

We should  most of the time. The most difficult Formation is C and it does require some practice, with
these sessions to make sufficient good decisions and make a small profit or break even.

Natural9

Richard this is just  an idea and maybe too much extra work for you
Maybe you can do a  worked example on each formation  explaining why  you bet just as in your B sample so to speak
Might help make it alot clearer to us dummies lol

Regards Rodney

Mr Chips

Quote from: Natural9 on November 02, 2009, 05:24:15 PM
Richard this is just  an idea and maybe too much extra work for you
Maybe you can do a  worked example on each formation  explaining why  you bet just as in your B sample so to speak
Might help make it alot clearer to us dummies lol

Regards Rodney

I am hoping the addition of the 'intro to P&M will greatly help in the explanation of the system,
but I will keep your suggestion in mind.

Regards

Richard

Mr Chips

I have made the necessary corrections to the website and there is an 'Intro to P & M',
which I hope will assist in helping to understand the system.

I also hope that the website is now free of errors, but if there are any please let me
know.

Richard

Bazeegar

Quote from: Mr Chips on November 05, 2009, 03:09:23 AM
I have made the necessary corrections to the website and there is an 'Intro to P & M',
which I hope will assist in helping to understand the system.

I also hope that the website is now free of errors, but if there are any please let me
know.

Richard
:thumbsup:

Mogwai

Mr Chips this looks interesting, thanks for sharing. I hope I will understand it...

You think this could be applied to other E/C games like Baccarat?

My Best Regards

Mr Chips

Quote from: Mogwai on November 05, 2009, 04:13:26 AM
Mr Chips this looks interesting, thanks for sharing. I hope I will understand it...

You think this could be applied to other E/C games like Baccarat?

My Best Regards

I have never played Baccaret, so I am not sure if it could be applied to that game,
but I understand there are similarities between Baccaret and EC B & R.

Natural9

Quote from: Mr Chips on November 05, 2009, 04:39:46 PM
I have never played Baccaret, so I am not sure if it could be applied to that game,
but I understand there are similarities between Baccaret and EC B & R.

Richard as we know the good thing about bac is the lower casino edge and the game moves quicker tho  rapid  roulette is quicker

Rodney

Only1Word

Hi Richard, i just picked out a random day from Wiesbaden 1/8/2006 to see if i could chart this correctly, but have run into something im not sure about. . .

Row  #     BorR   +/-/0  P or M  units +/-
1       4        B
2     16        R      -1
3     27        R       0       P+1
4     20        B      -1
5     29        B       0       P+2
6       3        R      -1       P+3      +1
7     12        R       0       P+4      +2
8     15        B      -1       P+5      +3
9     33        B       0       P+6      +4
10      1        R      -1       P+7      +5
11    17        B      -2       P+6      +4

So for the next spin we would bet on P to decline after reaching a peak of +7?
but im slightly confused here as to which colour to bet next?, with no previous -2.
For the record the next select spin was 36 red, that would make the fourth column -3.  Would that make it P+5 or P+7?

Im sorry if i sound like a dim wit  ;D
Thanks

Mr Chips

Quote from: Only1Word on November 05, 2009, 08:17:47 PM
Hi Richard, I just picked out a random day from Wiesbaden 1/8/2006 to see if I could chart this correctly, but have run into something im not sure about. . .

Row  #     BorR   +/-/0  P or M  units +/-
1       4        B
2     16        R      -1
3     27        R       0       P+1
4     20        B      -1
5     29        B       0       P+2
6       3        R      -1       P+3      +1
7     12        R       0       P+4      +2
8     15        B      -1       P+5      +3
9     33        B       0       P+6      +4
10      1        R      -1       P+7      +5
11    17        B      -2       P+6      +4

So for the next spin we would bet on P to decline after reaching a peak of +7?
but im slightly confused here as to which colour to bet next?, with no previous -2.
For the record the next select spin was 36 red, that would make the fourth column -3.  Would that make it P+5 or P+7?

Im sorry if I sound like a dim wit  ;D
Thanks

You are definitely getting a handle on the system, it's just understanding how P & M function.

In order for there to be a P symbol there has to be duplication or a new +/- number.

M symbol is the opposite of P and will not want duplication and if for example a -3 has shown
for the first time then M will want -2.

The above of course applies when both symbols are in ascent.

When the symbols are in decline, then P is in effect in M mode and M in P mode. We can make a
profit from the movement of the symbols and place bets on Red and Black depending on the
ascent and descent of the symbols, at any given time in a session.

I will set out below the session 1.08.06 you gave above and if you have any further questions
let me know.

[table=,]
Row,#,B or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units
1,4,B,,,
2,16,R,-1,,
3,27,R,0,M-1,
4,20,B,-1,,,
5,29,B,0,OOO,,
6,3,R,-1,P+1,
7,12,R,0,P+2,+1
8,15,B,-1,P+3,+2
9,33,B,0,P+4,+3
10,1,R,-1,P+5,+4
11,17,B,-2,P+4,+3
12,13,B,-1,P+3,+4
13,36,R,-2,P+4,+3,check
14,30,R,-1,P+5,+4,check
15,32,R,0,P+4,+5
16,5,R,+1,P+3,+6
17,16,R,+2,P+4,+7
18,30,R,+3,P+5,+8
19,34,R,+4,P+6,+7
[/table]

You will see the

P+5
P+4
P+3
P+4
P+5
P+4
P+3
P+4
P+5

sequence and the sequence of Reds. This is all useful info, which you become more and more
aware of with practice.

Only1Word

Thanks for the explanation of the session.  It makes a lot more sense now.  Practice is definately the correct word here.  I'll give another day from wiesbaden a bash later.

Mr Chips

Quote from: Natural9 on November 05, 2009, 05:20:44 PM
Richard as we know the good thing about bac is the lower casino edge and the game moves quicker tho  rapid  roulette is quicker

Rodney

Hi Rodney

Just out of interest I applied Signum to a couple Baccaret sessions, which I came across in the Bac section
and got +6 and +4. As I mentioned I know zero about the game and what is considered a reasonable
profit. I don't know how the T fits in. Anyway if there is any interest in applying Signum to Baccaret I will
continue this in the Bac section.

Regards

Richard

bene126

Hi all.I think now I understand this system.Here are 40 numbers from my casino.


Numbers    Select numbers          Black/Red
16*                    16                           R  
8                            
29    
33*                    33                           B
30
17*                    17                           B
13
31
27*                    27                           R
6
5
17*                    17                           B
18
33
31*                    31                           B
35
10*                    10                           B
33*                    33                           B
35
36*                    36                           R
25
6
20*                    20                           B
1*                      1                             R
35*                    35                           B
2
16
25*                    25                           R
17
14
19*                   19                            R
13*                   13                            B
8
33*                   33                            B
5
35*                   35                            B
0      
11
18
35*                   35                            B


So we have this stats:

Number          Black/Red         +/-/0       P&M       units
16                       R                    
33                       B                    -1            
17                       B                     0          M-1
27                       R                    -1        
17                       B                    -2         000
31                       B                    -1         M-1
10                       B                     0         M-2           +1
33                       B                   +1         M-3           +2
36                       R                     0         M-4           +3
20                       B                    -1         M-5           +4
1                         R                    -2         M-6           +5
35                       B                    -3         M-7           +6
25                       R                    -4         M-6           +5
19                       R                    -3         M-7           +4
13                       B                    -4         M-6           +3
33                       B                    -3         M-5           +4 check
35                       B                    -2         M-6           +3 check
35                       B                    -1         M-7           +4


What you think Chips? It`s right?

regards

Thomas.

Natural9

Quote from: Mr Chips on November 06, 2009, 04:53:32 PM
Hi Rodney

Just out of interest I applied Signum to a couple Baccaret sessions, which I came across in the Bac section
and got +6 and +4. As I mentioned I know zero about the game and what is considered a reasonable
profit. I don't know how the T fits in. Anyway if there is any interest in applying Signum to Baccaret I will
continue this in the Bac section.

Regards

Richard

Well for one there is no groups in baccarat as far as the tie is concerned just ignore it for the system

Natural9

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