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Signum system EC B&R

Started by Mr Chips, October 24, 2009, 03:56:24 AM

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lucky_strike

QuoteHow about you take your discussion elsewhere?


Dear Lohnro.

There was not my intention to offend any one here.
But I thought we discuss Mr Chips method or can you explain for me what that has been sad does not effect or have nothing to do with hes method.
You are more then welcome to explain that for me.

I feel free to reply to any post I like to and put things with my perspective of what is what.

Take care with affection.

LS

Lohnro

Hi LS,

Welcome back BTW!

I saw hints of things getting personal between you and Landis that had nothing to do with the Signum system. Just trying to keep it friendly, that is all mate. If you and Landis would like to discuss how to get an advantage with Mr Chips system so we may all learn something, then by all means post it in this thread.

Nherisson

Hi Richard,

Can you check this one:

  1     8   N         
  2     1   R   -1      
  3   11   N   -2   P+1   
  4   32   R   -3   P+2   
  5     9   R   -2   P+1     -1
  6   18   R   -1   OOO     0
  7     2   N   -2   P+1   
  8   36   R   -3   OOO   +1
  9   27   R   -2   P+1   
10   19   R   -1   OOO   +2
11   13   N   -2   P+1   
12     7   R   -3   OOO   +3
13     9   R   -2   P+1   
14   14   R   -1   OOO   +4
15   19   R    0    M-1   
16   30   R    1      
17     8   N    0    M-2    +5
18   21   R   -1    M-3    +6
19   30   R    0    M-2    +5


Thanks for all

Mr Chips

Quote from: Landis on November 14, 2009, 03:53:34 AM
Mr. Chips,

I don't understand what the edge is supposed to be using the system.  How is it that you don't know either?  

Why are you replacing R for red and B for black?  That doesn't follow common sense.  

Why should we track score on the red and black?  How are past spins connected to future spins?  

I never mind criticism, as long as it's constructive criticism and the person criticising has done their
homework and knows something about the subject, system in this case, they are criticising.

You obviously haven't done your homework, as I am not replacing B or R, as you put it and I suggest you
look at the Signum website in particular 'Intro to P & M and then come back and make some constructive
criticisms, which I will be happy to answer.

Mr Chips

Quote from: Landis on November 14, 2009, 03:27:59 AM
I don't see very many spins where it's actually worked.  What makes you think that it does work?  Each session is so breif that you hardly ever bet.

Quality over quantity. Look at the results on the website, eventually there will be a years verifiable results.


Mr Chips

Quote from: Lohnro on November 14, 2009, 06:11:39 AM
Hi LS,

Welcome back BTW!

I saw hints of things getting personal between you and Landis that had nothing to do with the Signum system. Just trying to keep it friendly, that is all mate. If you and Landis would like to discuss how to get an advantage with Mr Chips system so we may all learn something, then by all means post it in this thread.

Yes, Welcome back, good to see you around. I see your getting stuck in already ;D

Kind Regards

Richard

Mr Chips

Quote from: Nherisson on November 14, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
Hi Richard,

Can you check this one:

  1     8   N         
  2     1   R   -1      
  3   11   N   -2   P+1   
  4   32   R   -3   P+2   
  5     9   R   -2   P+1     -1
  6   18   R   -1   OOO     0
  7     2   N   -2   P+1   
  8   36   R   -3   OOO   +1
  9   27   R   -2   P+1   
10   19   R   -1   OOO   +2
11   13   N   -2   P+1   
12     7   R   -3   OOO   +3
13     9   R   -2   P+1   
14   14   R   -1   OOO   +4
15   19   R    0    M-1   
16   30   R    1      
17     8   N    0    M-2    +5
18   21   R   -1    M-3    +6
19   30   R    0    M-2    +5


Thanks for all

Yes it seems fine to me. I like the Noir ;)

In row 6 the usual expectation is P+2, but of course you can gamble that a third red will come in and
of course it will be correct on occasions, as in your session. A nice D Formation.

Regards

Richard

Nherisson

Thanks for your comments Mr Chips!  ;)

I will become better...

Btw here it is an other session with difficult decisions I think. I don't know if I did well so Richard can you check out please


  1   33   N            
  2   26   N   1         
  3   22   N   2   P+1      
  4   10   N   3   P+2      
  5     9   R   2   P+1      -1   
  6   16   R   3   P+2       0   
  7     0                         -1   
  8   12   R   4   P+3       0   
  9   35   N   3   P+2      -1   ch
10     4   N   4   P+3      -2   
11   28   N   5   P+2      -1   
12   19   R   4   P+1      -2   
13   13   N   3   000      -3   
14   10   N   4   P+1      
15   24   N   5   000      -2   ch
16   14   R   4   P+1      
17   19   R   5   P+2      -3   
18     3   R   6   P+1      -4   
19   13   N   5   000      -5   
20   36   R   4   M-1      

Mr Chips

Quote from: Nherisson on November 14, 2009, 02:42:01 PM
Thanks for your comments Mr Chips!  ;)

I will become better...

Btw here it is an other session with difficult decisions I think. I don't know if I did well so Richard can you check out please


  1   33   N            
  2   26   N   1         
  3   22   N   2   P+1      
  4   10   N   3   P+2      
  5     9   R   2   P+1      -1   
  6   16   R   3   P+2       0   
  7     0                         -1   
  8   12   R   4   P+3       0   
  9   35   N   3   P+2      -1   ch
10     4   N   4   P+3      -2   
11   28   N   5   P+2      -1   
12   19   R   4   P+1      -2   
13   13   N   3   000      -3   
14   10   N   4   P+1      
15   24   N   5   000      -2   ch
16   14   R   4   P+1      
17   19   R   5   P+2      -3   
18     3   R   6   P+1      -4   
19   13   N   5   000      -5   
20   36   R   4   M-1      


In row 6 there is +3, so looking for duplication in row 4 a +3 followed by +2 and in row 8 there was no
duplication so P declined to P+1.

[table=,]
Row,#,N or R,+/-/0,P or M.Units
1,33,N,,,
2,26,N,+1,,
3,22,N,+2,P+1,
4,10,N,+3,P+2,
5,9,R,+2,P+1,-1
6,16,R,+3,P+2,0
7,,0,,,-1
8,12,R,+4,P+1,0
9,35,N,+3,000,-1,check
10,4,N,+4,P+1,
11,28,N,+5,000,0,check
12,19,R,+4,M-1,
13,13,N,+3,M-2,+1
14,10,N,+4,M-1,+2
15,24,N,+5,M-2,+3
16,14,R,+4,M-1,+4
17,19,R,+5,OOO,+3
18,3,R,+6,M-1
19,13,N,+5,M-2,+4
20,36,R,+4,M-3,+3,check
[/table]

I mentioned it to Bruce a few posts back, that on on occasions you have a session, where it doesn't
go above +2,-2 and +3,-3 etc in column 5 and this one of those sessions and therefore the decision
in row 14, that this will continue for a certain time proved to be correct. It ended in row 20 and with
a check of +3, the right time to exit.

Hopefully the above is correct, as I am going through an error phase at the moment.

Regards

Richard

Landis

How many units are we trying to win each session?

bene126

HI.This is my todays game for real money.


R
B    -1
B     0   M-1
B   +1
R     0   M-2
R   +1   M-1    -1
B     0   000      0
R    -1   M-1
B    -2   M-2    +1
R    -3   M-1    +2
R    -2   M-2    +1
B    -3   M-1    +2
R    -4   M-2    +3
R    -3   M-1    +4
R    -2   M-2    +5
B    -3   M-1    +6
B    -2   000     +5
B    -1   M-1
B     0   M-2    +6
B   +1   M-3    +5

Mr Chips

Quote from: Landis on November 14, 2009, 04:19:19 PM
How many units are we trying to win each session?

I don't think in terms winning a certain amount each session. For every 20 sessions I expect
to make a profit of between 40 to 60 units.

Marven

Quote from: Landis on November 14, 2009, 06:22:38 PM
I think I need to point something out here:

Just because we have P +4 or M-3, or whatever value, the odds of red or black hitting on the next spin haven't changed.  Not even a little bit.  The odds remain 18/37!  

Mr. Chips, you've chosen to use the name Signum.   You imply that you're a math guy with your Ps and Ms, until you are confronted with some very basic questions about your system, like what's the edge? How many units does it make per spin? etc.  What gives?

-Landis
(By the way, I'm a real math guy, not a pretend one.)

Topic split so as not to disturb the main one.

Criticism for the Signum system goes here:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/general-board/criticism-for-signum-system-ec-bandr/

Landis

Perhaps you should post the system here so that we can give you a second opinion.

nolinks://nolinks.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Mr Chips

Quote from: bene126 on November 14, 2009, 04:48:12 PM
HI.This is my todays game for real money.


R
B    -1
B     0   M-1
B   +1
R     0   M-2
R   +1   M-1    -1
B     0   000      0
R    -1   M-1
B    -2   M-2    +1
R    -3   M-1    +2
R    -2   M-2    +1
B    -3   M-1    +2
R    -4   M-2    +3
R    -3   M-1    +4
R    -2   M-2    +5
B    -3   M-1    +6
B    -2   000     +5
B    -1   M-1
B     0   M-2    +6
B   +1   M-3    +5


In row 13 there is -4 a new number and you want a decline and therefore -5 in row 14,
the result was -3 and an increase of M to M-3.

[table=,]
Row,B or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units
1,R,,,
2,B,-1,,
3,B,0,M-1,
4,B,+1,,
5,R,0,M-2,
6,R,+1,M-1,-1
7,B,0,OOO,0
8,R,-1,M-1
9,B,-2,M-2,+1
10,R,-3,M-1,+2
11,R,-2,M-2,+1
12,B,-3,M-1,+2
13,R,-4,M-2,+3
14,R,-3,M-3,+2,check
15,R,-2,M-4,+3
16,B,-3,M-3,+2
17,B,-2,M-2,+3,check
18,B,-1,M-3,+2
19,B,0,M-4,+3
20,B,+1,M-5,+4
[/table]

Mr Chips

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