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Signum system EC B&R

Started by Mr Chips, October 24, 2009, 03:56:24 AM

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Mr Chips

Breeze, your short test with corrections.

[table=,]
Row,G or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,G,,,
2,R,-1,,
3,G,-2,P+1,
4,G,-1,OOO,
5,R,-2,P+1,
6,R,-1,P+2,-1
7,R,0,P+1,-2
8,R,+1,,
9,G,0,OOO,-3
10,R,-1,M-1,
11,G,-2,M-2,-2
12,G,-1,M-1,-3
13,G,0,M-2,-2
14,R,-1,M-1,-1
15,R,0,OOO,-2
16,G,-1,P+1,
17,G,0,P+2,-1
18,R,-1,P+3,0
19,R,0,P+4,+1
20,R,+1,P+3,0
21,G,0,P+4,+1
22,G,+1,P+5,0
23,R,O,P+6,+1
24,R,+1,P+7,+2
[/table]

Bazeegar

Hi Richard,

This is the session Wiesbaden 7/03/09 Tb3 which you requested (to be done) to Nherisson. I tried it...Can you pl go through and comment? I have not gone beyond 16th entry as on 17th entry we will not be betting and then we are very close to cut off of 20 entries.

[table=,]
Row ,  #     ,B or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,28,B,,,
2,17,B,+1,,
3,24,B,+2,P+1,
4,5,R,+1,OOO,
5,6,B,0,M-1,
6,19,R,-1,,
7,10,B,-2,OOO,+1 >>Assumption D
8,12,R,-3,P+1,
9,7,R,-2,OOO,+2
10,17,B,-3,P+1,
11,11,B,-2,P+2,+1
12,12,R,-1,P+1,0 >>Assumption start of A
13,33,B,-2,P+2,-1 >>Assumption reverting session to D
14,14,R,-3,P+1,0 >>Assumption C
15,8,B,-4,OOO,-1
16,3,R,-5,P+1,
17,29,B,-6,P+2,0 Ch >>Assumption C to continue (Not very sure)
18,22,B,-5,P+1,+1 Ch >> Never gone beyond P+2 in session
19,6,B,-4,OOO,0 Ch >> 16 th entry hence decided to quit
[/table]

Or it could have been played like this....

[table=,]
Row,#,B or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,28,B,,,
2,17,B,+1,,
3,24,B,+2,P+1,
4,5,R,+1,OOO,
5,6,B,0,M-1,
6,19,R,-1,,
7,10,B,-2,OOO,+1 >>Assumption D
8,12,R,-3,P+1,
9,7,R,-2,OOO,+2
10,17,B,-3,P+1,
11,11,B,-2,P+2,+1
12,12,R,-1,P+1,0 >>Assumption start of A
13,33,B,-2,P+2,+1 >>Assumption C
14,14,R,-3,P+1,+2
15,8,B,-4,OOO,+1
16,3,R,-5,P+1,
17,29,B,-6,P+2,+2 Ch >>Assumption C to continue
18,22,B,-5,P+1,+3 Ch >> Never gone beyond P+2 in session
19,6,B,-4,OOO,+2 Ch >> 16 th entry hence decided to quit
[/table]

Corrected session[table=,]
Row ,  #     ,B or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,28,B,,,
2,17,B,+1,,
3,24,B,+2,P+1,
4,5,R,+1,OOO,
5,6,B,0,M-1,
6,19,R,-1,,
7,10,B,-2,OOO,+1 >>Assumption D
8,12,R,-3,P+1,
9,7,R,-2,OOO,+2
10,17,B,-3,P+1,
11,11,B,-2,P+2,+1
12,12,R,-3,P+3,+2
13,33,B,-4,P+4,+3
14,14,R,-5,P+5,+4
15,8,B,-6,P+6,+5
16,3,R,-7,P+7,+6
17,29,B,-8,P+8,+7
18,22,B,-7,P+7,+6
[/table]

Mr Chips

Bazee,

Check rows 11 & 12.

After 11 B-2 there should follow R-3, not R-1.

I have done it many times and when it happens it alters the whole session.

Bazeegar

Hi Richard,

I am sorry about the mistake. I will try to be more careful hereon. Can you please have a look the corrected session?

Mr Chips

Quote from: Bazeegar on November 23, 2009, 07:14:40 AM
Hi Richard,

I am sorry about the mistake. I will try to be more careful hereon. Can you please have a look the corrected session?

Yes it is now correct. The reason I had +5 units is because at row 7 I expected M-2. As you are getting more
and more familiar with Signum you will come to realise some decisions are just not set in stone. Now if
someone wanted to code Signum (a permanent headache) a set decision would have to be made either
the decision I made or the one you opted for. I have suggested when learning Signum to opt for my decision,
but your decision also will prove correct, as shown by your increased profit.

It is the experience of handling Signum, which will guide you from now on, as I have shown the basics of
the system and with more experience you will be a proficient skilled Signum player.

Bruce

Hi Mr Chips,

Can I just ask u something about the results on the site. Are the results actual sessions you have played live, or are u taking random sets of spins and calculating the results?

It shouldn't make a difference of course, but with Signum being so subjective, is it possible that the results are biased because u know what will appear therefore allowing u to make the right decision?

I'm very impressed by Signum, so don't doubt its effectiveness. I'm just curious to know how reflective your results are of real life play. Will more wrong decisions be made if I were to play live as opposed to testing saved spins?

Mr Chips

Quote from: Bruce on November 23, 2009, 02:17:16 PM
Hi Mr Chips,

Can I just ask u something about the results on the site. Are the results actual sessions you have played live, or are u taking random sets of spins and calculating the results?

It shouldn't make a difference of course, but with Signum being so subjective, is it possible that the results are biased because u know what will appear therefore allowing u to make the right decision?

I'm very impressed by Signum, so don't doubt its effectiveness. I'm just curious to know how reflective your results are of real life play. Will more wrong decisions be made if I were to play live as opposed to testing saved spins?

It does say on the website they are from Wiesbaden spins. I have had the accusation directed at me before on
other systems. The idea of using Spielbank spins is that you or anyone can verify if the results are true and if
you understand the particular system you can work through the session and if you did not get the same result
you can ask for an explanation. If any other spins were produced then the criticism could be the results were made
up, results inflated to look good!

The point about Signum and other members here will no doubt confirm this, is that there is a short time frame
in which to complete a session. The maximum for a session is 20 entries. An entry refers to recording the symbols
including a losing zero. I have already been accused by a member here of fixing the results, so that I get many
favourable results. There would be many problems for me if that were true. I would have to do it in such a
way, that I would not get caught out. There are now a growing number of members here who understand how
Signum works. Many of the decisions in Signum are quite obvious, so not much room to cheat there. In a
complicated C session there has to be a good reason for example where there is P+3,P+4,P+3,P+4 to suddenly
decide to make what turned out to be the correct decision of P+5. There would have to be a good reason why
P+5 was chosen.

So as you can see not only is there a limited time frame for a session, but any strange decisions made say be me,
would be queried and if I did not come up with a reasonable explanation and did this on a regular basis, I would
quite rightly expect the accusations of bias and would soon be discredited.

Nherisson

Bazeegar,

there is still a mistake in your corrected session from row 12 to 13.

At row 13 it should be P+2 I think.

Isn'it?

Nherisson

I found a session where it's difficult to decide how to bet. Can someone deal with this session

  1   36   R      
  2     1   R   1   
  3   23   R   2   P+1
  4   34   R   3   P+2
  5   10   N   2   P+1
  6   24   N   3   P+2
  7   14   R   2   P+3
  8   34   R   3   P+4
  9   18   R   4   P+3
10   17   N   3   P+2
11   31   N   4   P+3
12     5   R   3   P+4
13   29   N   2   P+3
14     0   0      
15   15   N   3   P+4
16     4   N   4   P+3
17   31   N   5   P+2
18     4   N   6   P+3
19   14   R   5   P+2
20   10   N   4   P+1
21   36   R   3   OOO

Thanks

Mr Chips

Quote from: Nherisson on November 23, 2009, 03:44:49 PM
Bazeegar,

there is still a mistake in your corrected session from row 12 to 13.

At row 13 it should be P+2 I think.

Isn'it?

Yes you right.

We will eventually get this session correct ::)

Did you get +3 units at the end of the session?

Mr Chips

Quote from: Nherisson on November 23, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
I found a session where it's difficult to decide how to bet. Can someone deal with this session

  1   36   R      
  2     1   R   1   
  3   23   R   2   P+1
  4   34   R   3   P+2
  5   10   N   2   P+1
  6   24   N   3   P+2
  7   14   R   2   P+3
  8   34   R   3   P+4
  9   18   R   4   P+3
10   17   N   3   P+2
11   31   N   4   P+3
12     5   R   3   P+4
13   29   N   2   P+3
14     0   0      
15   15   N   3   P+4
16     4   N   4   P+3
17   31   N   5   P+2
18     4   N   6   P+3
19   14   R   5   P+2
20   10   N   4   P+1
21   36   R   3   OOO

Thanks

This certainly a very difficult C session and a good practice session.

Hopefully to help you I have scored the session and at row 16 there is the first opportunity
to break even. See if you agree with my decisions and if not or you have some queries, I
will go over it with you in more detail.

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Joker

Mr chips thank you for sharing your system.... and as people said you must have put so many hours to this..

thank you.... i have one question... how much does it important to use Low High and Mediumm numbers rule?

the reason why i asked you is that if this doesn't need to use then we can use this system to baccarat and that way we don't have to worry about 0 or 00....

any ideas on this?

thank you so much

Joker

Mr Chips

Quote from: Joker on November 23, 2009, 04:41:05 PM
Mr chips thank you for sharing your system.... and as people said you must have put so many hours to this..

thank you.... I have one question... how much does it important to use Low High and Mediumm numbers rule?

the reason why I asked you is that if this doesn't need to use then we can use this system to baccarat and that way we don't have to worry about 0 or 00....

any ideas on this?

thank you so much

Joker

You wouldn't need to use it for baccarat.

I tried just a couple of sessions I should say part of a shoe. I am not familiar with the game.
but I got a reasonable result. Let us know how you get on.

Bruce

Hi Richard,

Could u check this session for me?

[table=,]
Row,G or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,B,,,
2,R,-1,,
3,R,0,M-1,
4,B,-1,,
5,R,-2,M-2,
6,R,-1,M-3,+1
7,R,0,M-4,+2
8,B,-1,M-3,+1
9,R,-2,M-4,+2
10,B,-3,M-5,+3
11,R,-4,M-4,+2
12,R,-3,M-5,+1
13,R,-2,M-6,0
14,R,-1,M-7,+1
15,R,0,M-8,+2
16,R,+1,M-9,+3
17,B,0,M-10,+4
18,R,-1,M-11,+5
19,R,0,M-10,+4
[/table]

Thanks for the help

Mr Chips

Quote from: Bruce on November 24, 2009, 10:11:14 PM
Hi Richard,

Could u check this session for me?

[table=,]
Row,G or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-
1,B,,,
2,R,-1,,
3,R,0,M-1,
4,B,-1,,
5,R,-2,M-2,
6,R,-1,M-3,+1
7,R,0,M-4,+2
8,B,-1,M-3,+1
9,R,-2,M-4,+2
10,B,-3,M-5,+3
11,R,-4,M-4,+2
12,R,-3,M-5,+1
13,R,-2,M-6,0
14,R,-1,M-7,+1
15,R,0,M-8,+2
16,R,+1,M-9,+3
17,B,0,M-10,+4
18,R,-1,M-11,+5
19,R,0,M-10,+4
[/table]

Thanks for the help

It looks to me to be correct. The decision to go from M-3 to M-4 rows 8 & 9 would be a difficult
decision to call.

Mr Chips

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