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The Monty Hall problem

Started by mistarlupo, October 28, 2009, 03:39:45 PM

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gizmotron

I saw 24 numbers dominate on six different tables in the Cesar's Casino for over five hours. Now I was totally a beginner back then and bet that it had to stop. So I bet against it. I lost my paycheck that night. It did put me on the road to discovering how trends work though. If I had bet with it I would have cleaned up. I just didn't know.

Mr J

I have always had an issue with this trend betting garbage (sorry). It is very easy to say what you should of or should not of done AFTER seeing a bunch of numbers. Thats like reading what the winning lotto numbers were from yesterday and being pissed cause you did not bet those 6 numbers. I'll give an example. Here is a number hit from a local casino.....22. Ok, go for it! What are your future trend betting numbers going to be? I'll help out a little more. Here are some more numbers hit in order......22, 27, 7, 33, 28, 28, 24, 36, 19, 31. I guess betting on the high numbers is a solid trend bet, lets do it. Oops, too late, the numbers are now hitting 1-18.  Ken

gizmotron

Quote from: Mr J on April 04, 2010, 06:02:17 PM
I have always had an issue with this trend betting garbage (sorry). It is very easy to say what you should of or should not of done AFTER seeing a bunch of numbers. Thats like reading what the winning lotto numbers were from yesterday and being pissed cause you did not bet those 6 numbers. I'll give an example. Here is a number hit from a local casino.....22. Ok, go for it! What are your future trend betting numbers going to be? I'll help out a little more. Here are some more numbers hit in order......22, 27, 7, 33, 28, 28, 24, 36, 19, 31. I guess betting on the high numbers is a solid trend bet, lets do it. Oops, too late, the numbers are now hitting 1-18.  Ken

You are still having trouble with trend betting. You might consider following the effectiveness tracking while you are at it. Effectiveness follows trends too. "Oops" is not a very effective technique. It's nobody's job to get you to improve. You don't get it so you attempt to feebly make fun of something you don't get. That makes you one of those "Dopes" that John Patrick mentions. If you keep acting like a dope then people are going to pick up on that pattern.

Noble Savage

John Patrick is full of nonsense.

gizmotron

Quote from: Noble Savage on April 04, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
John Patrick is full of nonsense.

To be honest I have no idea. He recommends using trends. I use trends. He recommends playing with a sense of how it's going. I do that too. He thinks that people stuck on the expectations of long term math probability can't see how gambling is about what is currently happening. I see it that way too. Just because the odds are against you, by a fraction of the whole risk, it does not predict what must happen on the very next spin. The odds predict nothing for the next few spins.

Mr J

Ok, Gizmo. I find it odd that most notice a trend (myself included) AFTER its over or real soon before its over. I could give you all kinds of numbers......then you TELL ME, #1 Is the trend over? #2 Is the trend just starting? #3 Is there no trend at all? Surely, an ace player should be able to spot it.  Ken

gizmotron

Quote from: Mr J on April 04, 2010, 10:15:12 PM
Ok, Gizmo. I find it odd that most notice a trend (myself included) AFTER its over or real soon before its over. I could give you all kinds of numbers......then you TELL ME, #1 Is the trend over? #2 Is the trend just starting? #3 Is there no trend at all? Surely, an ace player should be able to spot it.  Ken

Ken, that is the heart of the problem regarding trend betting as a method. That is exactly why I actually use effectiveness as the base line, final word. If the effectiveness is trending positive then I attack with higher priced flat bets. I expect to lose several first bets while attempting to get on a solid trend early. I try to stay at even while searching for good trends. You can win small amounts with short lived trends. All you really need to do is keep track of the effectiveness of your attempts to get on early. If it's not going easy then randomness is being observed as being in favor of losing. You can adjust if it's a continuous effect. If it's difficult because of the chaotic state then you should just get out of that session. All sessions are not profitable. Playing trends does not kill you off like losing a progression does. It should only cause you minimal damage. You just need to know how you are going to attack when the opportunities occur.

Mr J

"If the effectiveness is trending positive" >>> Give me an example.

gizmotron

Quote from: Mr J on April 05, 2010, 03:58:18 PM
"If the effectiveness is trending positive" >>> Give me an example.

Perhaps you will recall me saying things like "test as you go?"  Here is a Victor-esque example: "nolinksLnolinksLwLnolinksw"

If the trend is happening, that you win more times than you lose, then you could say that you are experiencing a current state where there is a dominance occurring. I associate winning as being positive. If your bet selection process is working then that is a positive effectiveness trend.

gizmotron

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