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#### Bo0Merang

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##### memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 04, 2009, 04:26:17 PM
aLLRIGHT  guys here it is  little problem i do remember wheel but i want to  remember with pokets how far they  from  each  other every  single  spin =is  there  way  how to  do it  to  know  this even in  midningt wakeup just  call two  numbers  and said how  many  pockets  are  between  them im  take  in it seriously there is not option i want to learn have you  anyone  try it ??

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 04, 2009, 09:03:33 PM

Here is one exampel but i think Herb should reply to this.

I know the numbers on the number ring cw and ccw and its easy to learn, take some practice do.
Then i read your post and think of distance from release number to outcome number.

Some talks about to learn the numbers as phone numbers regarding the number rings layout.
It becomes like frames of numbers.

Then i guess there is an particular solution for that one to get acc distance.

This is how i learn the wheel and have been practicing on getting distance and cross-overs correct in my head.
First i divide the numbers into sectors of three for many reasons.

1) They are easy to remember as there is only three numbers at every time you want to learn new numbers.
2) Its easy to divide them and get the cross-overs as you give every sector a number from 0 to 11.
3) It can be done to add them togheter in head to get distance like 3+3+3+3+3+2 the question is how fast you need to do the head calculations in real time.

0: 26 0 32 15
1: 19 4 21
2: 2 25 17
3: 34 6 27
4: 13 36 11
5: 30 8 23
6: 10 5 24
7: 16 33 1
8: 20 14 31
9: 9 22 18
10: 29 7 28
11: 12 35 3

Cross-Overs:

0-6
1-7
2-8
3-9
4-10
5-11

One idea could be to use 0 to 11 and + - 1 or 2 pockets.

Cheers LS

#### Bo0Merang

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 04, 2009, 09:25:13 PM
Thank you  Lucky you said exactly  what i think about memorize and count crossovers patterns clokwise and oposite offcourse depenc on spins but basicly it is helper which  can determine how many  numbers to bet i get in littlebit wise with that becouse it seems that i dont need guessing to much  as before 1 yar there seems a pretty rules if the sector repeating if the sector just move  one way littlebit orr crossover i get in realy familiar i just feel i need to know more _-by the way it is litlebit help  me  mike boy signature whe n i capture  numbers i see it how it changes go in whats make me better think  where the  next spin will be if all go  well.Will  see i will stick with pushing in my head:)thank you!

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 04, 2009, 09:49:07 PM

This is one other thing you can do if you want to test your ability later on.

Say five numbers to the left and right of does i write below, neighbors, you quicker you get you better it is.

0
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Cheers LS

#### Kelly

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 03:29:58 AM
Im not sure why you wanna memorize it but maybe it would be easyer if you divided the wheel in 12 x 3 number sectors and learned the distance between those.

PS: Usually its not the problem to memorize the wheel but to get the bets down fast enough. Take a sector like 26 - 0 - 32 - 15. If you place a chip on 26 and then on zero and then on 32 you will find yourself jumping from on end of the table to the other and after a few spins like that being waved off by te dealer because he dont like your activity because it disturbs his attention. So basicly you will need to know that you should place them like 0-15-26-32 and not in the wheel layout order.

#### lucky_strike

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 06:18:02 AM
I always like the small details you mention when you post Kelly.

Things like that you memories and write down your information after the ball has land in one pocket so you look like an average system player making notes.
As it would become so obvios during the spin if you make notes.

One thing I find rare do is that its so little talk about to place bets with high and low scatter.
As in standing at the end of table and place 35, 26, 32, 19.

I mean if you place the numbers as the same order on the number ring and cover an sector it has to become very obvious what you are up to.
And do so at all times, ain't that correct?

Not only do you show that you know the wheel you also show that you are targeting, high probability areas, peaks, that has to become an clear indication what some one are doing.

[disc]26,0,32,15[/disc]

[disc]35,26,32,19[/disc]

Or standing next to the wheel and use low numbers but that would also become obvious if some one is starring into the wheel, but then again we are covering the same high probability area.

[disc]3,0,15[/disc]

LS

#### Marven

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 11:34:25 AM
I don't know what's your motive for memorizing the wheel either, mine was for visual ballistics (VB) play.

What I did was I erased the red pockets and memorized only the black ones, along with the zero. I memorized them pocket by pocket, along with their distance from the zero pocket. So when I looked at the wheel I used to see only black pockets, and when my prediction is for example number 21, in my head I used to see it as "that number between 2 and 4" (since it's only black pockets I memorized).

Eventually, I found out that with practice my mind memorized all red pockets as well, but I didn't do that on purpose, lol.

Try it, look at the wheel and only see the black pockets + the zero, then spend a few days memorizing them.

#### Bo0Merang

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 02:57:01 PM
I don't know what's your motive for memorizing the wheel either, mine was for visual ballistics (VB) play.

What I did was I erased the red pockets and memorized only the black ones, along with the zero. I memorized them pocket by pocket, along with their distance from the zero pocket. So when I looked at the wheel I used to see only black pockets, and when my prediction is for example number 21, in my head I used to see it as "that number between 2 and 4" (since it's only black pockets I memorized).

Eventually, I found out that with practice my mind memorized all red pockets as well, but I didn't do that on purpose, lol.

Try it, look at the wheel and only see the black pockets + the zero, then spend a few days memorizing them.
lool i cant remember just  blacks  and zero becouse i mos winning  on  numbers 3 and 19 an 21 looooooool  no  that was joke    VB is the reason

#### Bo0Merang

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 03:02:23 PM
Im not sure why you wanna memorize it but maybe it would be easyer if you divided the wheel in 12 x 3 number sectors and learned the distance between those.

PS: Usually its not the problem to memorize the wheel but to get the bets down fast enough. Take a sector like 26 - 0 - 32 - 15. If you place a chip on 26 and then on zero and then on 32 you will find yourself jumping from on end of the table to the other and after a few spins like that being waved off by te dealer because he dont like your activity because it disturbs his attention. So basicly you will need to know that you should place them like 0-15-26-32 and not in the wheel layout order.

yap Kelly i do understand  but i realy  dont giive hell about  dealer if he like  orr dislike  my  activity i loosing my own  money  he didnt give  me any penc so more he will be distrupted then  more happy  im  -most of students dont have clue how  you  put chips on the carpet until  you  get paid this  is 1 version the others  i know  how to  deal  with  that

#### Bo0Merang

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 03:11:44 PM
/quote/ Not only do you show that you know the wheel you also show that you are targeting, high probability areas, peaks, that has to become an clear indication what some one are doing.                So  then what  now   becouse i do  know which  sector will  came  and becouse im  targeting  high  probabilyty wheel  sector they will kill me orr do i need to put  some  special  way  chips ?? i dont get  it now sorry

#### Kelly

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 05, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
Yeah well, you dont want the dealer against you, thats for certain.  He has a position where he can mess your game up pretty effective if he wants to.

I understand if you wanna memorize the wheel layout, but in your initial question you wanted a way to memorize the pocket distances between the numbers.  Certain combinations are good to know (vis a vis or triangles) , but the rest you can calculate between spins.  For instance, if you track scatter, just note the strike number and the outcome number. You can then calculate the bounce at another time when you hit the bar or something.

#### Bo0Merang

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##### Re: memorize pockets and numbers from the wheel
December 06, 2009, 08:20:34 AM
Yeah well, you dont want the dealer against you, thats for certain.  He has a position where he can mess your game up pretty effective if he wants to.

I understand if you wanna memorize the wheel layout, but in your initial question you wanted a way to memorize the pocket distances between the numbers.  Certain combinations are good to know (vis a vis or triangles) , but the rest you can calculate between spins.  For instance, if you track scatter, just note the strike number and the outcome number. You can then calculate the bounce at another time when you hit the bar or something.

thank you Kelly that certain combinations are exactly  reason why i want learn that,normaly  i put chips  exactly  how you  describe  not like  mug jump from one to one  place i never think about that  but ictualy i was learn well from beginnining.How would you describe pattern which is moving on  one  place and one direction  even if is clockwise and anticlk.This drunk  my  blood- thank you!!